Pete's 53 and truly WOWO vs a bit of 'set'?

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Been using Pete's 53 over previously sealed cars (Klasse and BFWD) and to be honest I find if I just WOWO, it almost seems like there's minimal effect - aka like it's all just wipin' right back off again! A lot of work (and $$) to be spending on not much result...

If I let it sit on the paint and start to setup just a little it seems to make a huge difference in terms of the final finish effect. Much warmer glossier like I expect from a nuba wax layer on top of the sealant.

(On the other hand the areas I let sit a bit too long are MISERABLE to polish off so you clearly don't want to do a traditional wax haze/setup period.)

I'm thinking in future the appropriate amount of time would be:
1. apply wax to entire car
2. drink a beer
3. remove
Ok maybe that's still too long, so maybe I need to shotgun the beer.

Anybody else had this issue? Or do most Pete's users just WOWO with super great results?
 
Pete's 53 is a wax I've had my eye on for sometime, I hear many good things about it.
All I use now is GoldClass Paste and NXT liquid wax.
So I have to drink a beer while it cures?, OK:)

I'll put four coats so that's four beers. Lol
 
I don't remember how long we let Pete's 53 dry when we did a show car makeover on this Fiat but the norm is I have everyone apply the wax and then wait to remove it after the entire car is coated with the product we're using and then everyone gloves-up and we go over some sane wiping techniques.



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spitpolish said:
If I let it sit on the paint and start to setup just a little it seems to make a huge difference in terms of the final finish effect. Much warmer glossier like I expect from a nuba wax layer on top of the sealant.

(On the other hand the areas I let sit a bit too long are MISERABLE to polish off so you clearly don't want to do a traditional wax haze/setup period.)
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I've had the same experience with Pete's 53. Sounds like you are on the right track. Good to know someone else uses a beer-timer. :cheers:
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
I don't remember how long we let Pete's 53 dry when we did a show car makeover on this Fiat but the norm is I have everyone apply the wax and then wait to remove it after the entire car is coated with the product we're using and then everyone gloves-up and we go over some sane wiping techniques.
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That's great feedback Mike - its just about exactly what I found worked well... its just the WOWO instructions they provide sounds like "immediately" vs. a little bit of 'brief set time' even if its not a 'full haze time'.

Only prob was when the wife interrupted me and that's when I came back to the rock-solid stuff but such is the price of maintaining domestic harmony!
 
I use Pete's 53 very often and always wipe it on a section and remove it right away. I don't even apply to a full panel, just a section of one. I haven't had any issues with bonding or protection doing it this way. My assumption is that it would be very hard to remove if you let it haze too long.


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The few times I have used Pete's I did half the vehicle at a time, and then removed it. I have had no issues doing this, and have had good results. This is the way I will probably continue applying it.
 
I always apply P53 or any other wax a panel or two at a time - then remove. I apply any wax so thin it almost hazes instantly. I waxed my Pathfinder 8 or 9 times this way with a single Dodo Juice panel pot and there still is another time or two left.

I don't like doing the whole car and going back to remove because I'm concerned about airborne particles settling on the surface, then scratching the paint when you wipe off.

This may sound crazy, but when you wax a highly polished black car under fluorescent lights, you can see how fast crap in the air makes its way to the surface. Dust, hair, bugs, random airborne floaties of unknown origin just seem to settle on my paint.
 
ekennett said:
I use Pete's 53 very often and always wipe it on a section and remove it right away. I don't even apply to a full panel, just a section of one. I haven't had any issues with bonding or protection doing it this way. My assumption is that it would be very hard to remove if you let it haze too long.
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Interesting to see a vote for the quick WOWO. And yep yer assumption doesn't need to be an assumption - I can confirm it's like trying to rub off a light coat of housepaint if you leave it too long.

swanicyouth said:
I always apply P53 or any other wax a panel or two at a time - then remove. I apply any wax so thin it almost hazes instantly. I waxed my Pathfinder 8 or 9 times this way with a single Dodo Juice panel pot and there still is another time or two left.

I don't like doing the whole car and going back to remove because I'm concerned about airborne particles settling on the surface, then scratching the paint when you wipe off.

This may sound crazy, but when you wax a highly polished black car under fluorescent lights, you can see how fast crap in the air makes its way to the surface. Dust, hair, bugs, random airborne floaties of unknown origin just seem to settle on my paint.
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Agreed! My spaces are no air and dust controlled pro detailing spaces unfortunately. Once in a while I get sharp sunlight from one window and its depressing how much junk is in the air.
 
I have used Pete's 53 over the past year in my car. IME, immediate wipe off of a small section doesn't do anything but waterproof your microfiber towels. Let it sit for too long, and it's a beast to remove. I like the wax but it's finicky in that regard. Environmental factors play in to how fast it goes from purely wet to virtual plaster, e.g. Temperature, humidity.
It works best for me if I let it set for the time it takes to do one fender, or door, or half a hood and then just a couple minutes, 3-5 max.
In other words, takes me at least half the car before I finish the beer. YMMV.
 
Rmd said:
I have used Pete's 53 over the past year in my car. IME, immediate wipe off of a small section doesn't do anything but waterproof your microfiber towels. Let it sit for too long, and it's a beast to remove. I like the wax but it's finicky in that regard. Environmental factors play in to how fast it goes from purely wet to virtual plaster, e.g. Temperature, humidity.
It works best for me if I let it set for the time it takes to do one fender, or door, or half a hood and then just a couple minutes, 3-5 max.
In other words, takes me at least half the car before I finish the beer. YMMV.
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Lol. Thanks man thats great. Yeah my towels got real well conditioned when I tried WOWO. Expensive towels now!

So you 2nd the previous suggestion to apply 3-4 panels then wipe the first, and then continue the apply one / wipe one pattern.

Thanks to everybody for responding, even if theres a few who WOWO w success i feel better that im not crazy for finding that a short set works. I think next time i will try thinner application (aka faster set w thin layers) and the "staged" approach.
 
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