Petroleum distillates in carnauba wax

[FUNX650]

Well done Bob.

Since I have been a life long student of food science I look at ingredients for the purpose they play.Baking is done with formulas and savory cooking is an open canvas.So it begs the question on car wax and the ingredients they contain.I realize there are many mitigating factors such as cost and availability.Maybe some manufactures use less expensive ingredients in the form of solvents and fillers to keep costs down both in manufacturing and to the consumer.

I know extra virgin coconut oil is one of the latest culinary trends yet expensive and wonder if that will affect the wax production world.

Thanks!

Don't know the impact that an increase in the culinary use of "extra virgin" coconut oil---Wait a minute:
How is possible for the "meat" of the coconut to have been never yet squeezed...to have been never yet squeezed: even more?
Is this just another marketing buzz-words tactic?...But I digress.

Again:
Don't know the impact this may have on production of waxes...
But with coconut oil having such a low melting point, it's particular use in wax formulations is probably limited
to other functions (I'd almost bet one of them is as a "lubricant") of a wax formulation than, let's say: Protection.

Zymol, for one, and many surfboard/ski waxes list coconut
oil as an ingredient. So does some leather-care products.

IMO:
If the culinary increased usage of coconut oil would impact any industries...
I would pick the health and beauty industries as the likely candidates.
With that in mind; and, since I mentioned the lubricant properties of Coconut oil:
Is coconut oil compatible with latex?

Bob

 

[jankerson]

Also perception is a very powerful tool and as the Companies know it can be very deceptive.

One has to really watch out for key phrases when reading...

As Good As... That's the Main one...

Bang For the Buck.... Has nothing to do with anything other than price in reality.

Performance as in real performance that can be repeated is what is really important.

Price is a huge factor with a lot of people and that will sway their opinions more than any other factor, especially if the product is cheap.

That does work the other way as well, the product performs well because they perceive that it does because they want it to due to the high price.

Just rambling on here a little...

But this is coming from someone who has done thousands of reviews and tests, both scientific and real world testing of products over the years, mostly in the Steel and Cutlery industries...

 

[57BORNTORUN]

Nature's Way Coconut Oil
Pure, Expeller Pressed, Organic Coconut Oil

Premium quality: Extra virgin, unrefined & unbleached from non-GMO coconuts; No solvents (hexane-free), non-hydrogenated, no trans fat.


So maybe the coconut oil the wax companies speak of is third press or refined.

 

[FUNX650]

Nature's Way Coconut Oil
Pure, Expeller Pressed, Organic Coconut Oil

Premium quality: Extra virgin, unrefined & unbleached from non-GMO coconuts; No solvents (hexane-free), non-hydrogenated, no trans fat.


So maybe the coconut oil the wax companies speak of is third press or refined.

As it pertains solely to coconut oils:
If its pressed/refined, is it still virgin?

Maybe it's the "extra"...as in extra costs associated with the alleged-virgin being:
Pressed and refined properly (Kinda-sorta like Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman").

Im the MAN

Bob

 

[57BORNTORUN]

As it pertains solely to coconut oils:
If its pressed/refined, is it still virgin?

Maybe it's the "extra"...as in extra costs associated with the alleged-virgin being:
Pressed and refined properly (Kinda-sorta like Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman").

Im the MAN

Bob

If it`s refined it`s not extra virgin.Dont know about Julia Roberts but know a lot of Julia Childs.(She waited till 40).

 

[FUNX650]

know a lot of Julia Childs.(She waited till 40).

What was it that Julia Childs waited till 40 for?



Bob

 

[57BORNTORUN]

What was it that Julia Childs waited till 40 for?



Bob

Cooking........what do you think I meant!!! I actually cooked for her 80`th birthday party and have the utmost respect for her.Her first marriage and cooking career started at 40 years old.

 

[PiPUK]

My understanding is that your coconut oil is probably a distillate of a cruder form of the oil.

Keep in mind that plastics are processed petroleum distillates, as are many surfactants and similar. It really takes quite a bit of experience to have an idea whether certain components are reasonable or not. Worst of all is that some people grab hold of a certain ingredient and shout about them only to use much worse products because their knowledge is so limited.

 

[ihaveacamaro]

Is having Petroleum Distillates in a carnauba wax a usual ingredient?

If most/many don't contain petroleum distillates, what are the down sides?

If most DO have the distillates, what is the upside?Feed back please

Kind of random, but if I remember correctly styrofoam is a petroleum distillate... Or maybe it was a by product. But just goes to show that a petroleum distillate can be so many things it's hard to put a blanket statement on the pros and cons of petroleum distillates.

 

[FUNX650]

As it pertains solely to coconut oils:
If its pressed/refined, is it still virgin?

Maybe it's the "extra"...as in extra costs associated with the alleged-virgin being:
Pressed and refined properly (Kinda-sorta like Julia Roberts in "Pretty Woman").

What was it that Julia Childs waited till 40 for?

Cooking........what do you think I meant!!! Her first marriage and cooking career started at 40 years old.

@OP shagnat:

We took the Red Show Car out for a "drifting"-of-a-good-time this past Saturday, 12-29-2013.
{We don't often get the chance to do so during Ohio's Winter Season.}
For that: I do not apologize

However...(upon introspection):
It appears that the exuberance of the above Spoolin'-spree has drifted into some of my most recent off-topic-posts (a few of which are re-listed above) in your petroleum-distillates thread.
For that: I do sincerely apologize.



Bob

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

I saw this thread pop up over the weekend, kept racking my brain trying to remember if I wrote somethin on this?

Went to Google and searched,


Petroleum Distillates Mike Phillips

Found this...


Petroleum Distillates or Solvents


Just because a product states that it contains petroleum distillates, or PD's doesn't automatically mean the product is bad or will harm anything. It depends upon the quality of of the petroleum distillates used. Just answered a PM about this and thought I would post the below picture I took years ago to make a point...

Here's an example of how safe petroleum distillates can be...

Chap-Stick, a product you apply to your lips contains 44% Petrolatums as well as Isopropyl Myristate and Cetyl Alcohol. All of these ingredients can sound bad for your skin but look how long Chap-Stick has been around, how safe it is for your skin and what a great product it is?

Stick with brands you trust and trust that the chemist behind the product formula is a qualified chemist and has done their homework to create a product that work and is safe for the intended application.

 

[57BORNTORUN]

@OP shagnat:

We took the Red Show Car out for a "drifting"-of-a-good-time this past Saturday, 12-29-2013.
{We don't often get the chance to do so during Ohio's Winter Season.}
For that: I do not apologize

However...(upon introspection):
It appears that the exuberance of the above Spoolin'-spree has drifted into some of my most recent off-topic-posts (a few of which are re-listed above) in your petroleum-distillates thread.
For that: I do sincerely apologize.



Bob

I apologize as well yet this post keeps drawing me back for the science behind what makes things work.Probably wont find it here as I`m sure the chemists wont reveal there reasoning's or secretes.I do however find it fun to talk about two of the four most important things in my life with #3=food, #4= cars.As Julia Childs always said "BON APPETITE".:hijacked: