Pinnacle Bodywork or XMT Shampoo?

bikeride4fun

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I was planning on getting some car shampoo and was wondering what is the difference between Pinnacle Bodywork and XMT Shampoo & Conditioner? I have used the Bodywork and like it very well.....Is the XMT line more for commercial use? I get a little confused between the two lines...is Pinnacle more of a "show car" line?.....Any feedback would be great....thanks.....Feed back please
 
The only comment I have is that I **love** the coconut smell of the Pinnacle Shampoo. If I could, I'd dip my dust masks in it for when I work on the house.
 
theparmachine said:
Neither.

Chemical Guys wash and gloss, you won't be disappointed.
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I would be careful with wash and gloss, it is a powerful shampoo. It is a paint cleanser, basically it washes off old waxes, sealants and non permanent LSPs.

pick a pH neutral one such as

citruswash

Glossworkz

Honeydew

These ones will yield some great results

Pinnacle and xmt are good soaps, but they're pretty generic and are not as purpose focused as others
 
XMT is a very nice soap. If I had to choose between XMT and Pinnacle I would pick XMT. It cleans and rinses well and leaves a nice shine at 1 oz to 3 gallons.
 
Andr3wilson said:
I would be careful with wash and gloss, it is a powerful shampoo. It is a paint cleanser, basically it washes off old waxes, sealants and non permanent LSPs.

pick a pH neutral one such as

citruswash

Glossworkz

Honeydew

These ones will yield some great results

Pinnacle and xmt are good soaps, but they're pretty generic and are not as purpose focused as others
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I am not so sure I believe that. I applied Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant about a year ago and it still beads.

Maybe you used too much soap, in that case anything would strip the wax.
 
theparmachine said:
I am not so sure I believe that. I applied Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant about a year ago and it still beads.

Maybe you used too much soap, in that case anything would strip the wax.
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Thats actually incorrect. All of the soaps I mentioned are all pH neutral and safe on all LSP's. Please go and read the description on the bottle. Its called a "surface prepping paint work cleanser". It is not pH neutral, therefore it strips the surface of grease, wax, and sealants.

Basically you use it once to prep the surface, apply your LSP, then use a pH neutral shampoo and a QD to maintain the surface.

Now WDGPS will not last a year, maybe 4 months at best, keep in mind water beads on unsealed surfaces too. Best way to test, go and rub your finger hard, back and forth along the surface while its wet. If it makes a squeaky sound, there is nothing there.
 
Andr3wilson said:
Thats actually incorrect. All of the soaps I mentioned are all pH neutral and safe on all LSP's. Please go and read the description on the bottle. Its called a "surface prepping paint work cleanser". It is not pH neutral, therefore it strips the surface of grease, wax, and sealants.

Basically you use it once to prep the surface, apply your LSP, then use a pH neutral shampoo and a QD to maintain the surface.

Now WDGPS will not last a year, maybe 4 months at best, keep in mind water beads on unsealed surfaces too. Best way to test, go and rub your finger hard, back and forth along the surface while its wet. If it makes a squeaky sound, there is nothing there.
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Not sure what to tell you except that I am the one that washes the car and sees the results. You are welcome to come here and perform your "squeaky finger test" the next time I wash my car.

I can only report on my experience. Clearly you have a different experience but that does not mean it's the rule.
 
theparmachine said:
Not sure what to tell you except that I am the one that washes the car and sees the results. You are welcome to come here and perform your "squeaky finger test" the next time I wash my car.

I can only report on my experience. Clearly you have a different experience but that does not mean it's the rule.
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Whatever. Im just telling you whats written on the bottle.
 
I read where both shampoos are pH-balanced....Reading in the Pinnacle product handbook the XMT shampoo also leaves a layer of polymers to help the shine...so is XMT more for a neglected surface?
 
Personally, I wouldn't necessarily decide to use XMT in terms of neglected surface vs. a well maintained surface. At the end of the day, it's just a car wash; a maintenance step. There are a lot of other products out there (and approaches) for neglected surfaces.
 
Well I researched alot of post and different threads....I dont know if it was a good or bad move....But I purchased a gal of the Bodywork Shampoo....No matter what I will use it....Maybe through out the summer I will try different brands to compare.....:dunno:
 
bikeride4fun said:
Well I researched alot of post and different threads....I dont know if it was a good or bad move....But I purchased a gal of the Bodywork Shampoo....No matter what I will use it....Maybe through out the summer I will try different brands to compare.....:dunno:
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Just play around, I have a couple gallons of different shampoos, I use what I feel like
 
Andr3wilson said:
I would be careful with wash and gloss, it is a powerful shampoo. It is a paint cleanser, basically it washes off old waxes, sealants and non permanent LSPs.

pick a pH neutral one such as

citruswash

Glossworkz

Honeydew

These ones will yield some great results

Pinnacle and xmt are good soaps, but they're pretty generic and are not as purpose focused as others
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I love the Glossworkz, more lubricity than anything I've used.
 
The Pinnacle Soap is on BOGO and I bought some....as well as 1Z Einszett Exclusiv Gloss Shampoo which was on BOGO. Also, got a bottle of WG.

I should have enough soap for a few years.
 
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