Pinnacle SSII vs. Swissvax Glacier

cobalt9123 said:
That is the exact approach I will be using on my cobalt (ironic, huh? ). I have very light defects and the paint is not hard so I'm going to use M205 on a Tangerine Hydrotech Pad followed by PO85RD on a white flat pad. Im the MAN
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If 205 cleans up nicely...Use a black or blue pad with 85rd to jewel the paint.
 
cobalt9123 said:
Thank you for the link CieraSL, I had actually already read that thread and replied...but thanks!

SO 02CAMSS, you would NOT suggest liquid souveran on white? Have you used both Liquid Souveran and SSII on white?

Thanks
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Yes I have about a million times and I still cannot warm up to liquid sov on any white ride and I have owned white cars most of my life.SS II just gives the white a better glow and wetter look to me and I have seen a thousand pictures people post of liquid sov on here that look great but when I see it in person on white it does nothing for me.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
Dodo offers a hard and soft wax for whites too ... might save you some $$ and their Red Tropical Mist is a must have item.
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Once again after a full polish job or good preclean I think you would be better off with SSII or supernatural than either white diamond or light fantastic and I cannot stress how much a great polishing job even if your paint is money does for a white car.
 
This test is for cobalt9123 (and anybody else who might find it beneficial). As promised, I did the test today. Sorry I didn't get pics uploaded until now - I went to go see Iron Man 2 tonight. It was awesome! Just as good as Iron Man, IMHO.

Anyway, onward.

Process:
Wash (I washed the whole van since it needed it anyway)
Clay with Meguiar's blue clay and Last Touch 1:1 (didn't pick up much)
M205 with 5.5 inch white LC CCS pad on G110v2, speed 5.5, 4-5 passes
Optimum Finish on 5.5 inch gray LC CCS on G110v2, 5-6 passes
DP Poli-Coat on whole hood
Pinnacle Liquid Souveran on the left hand side of the hood
Pinnacle Signature Series II on the right hand side of the hood

A few notes: I didn't much care for Optimum Finish. Working time was good, but it was a PITA to get off. M205 wiped off super easy. I'm not sure why this would be, but thinking I may just stick with PO85rd as my final finishing polish. Poli-Coat, Liquid Souveran, and Signature Series II all went on and came off easily. All three products were applied, given about 15 minutes to haze, and were then removed. I allowed about 45 minutes or so in between my application of Poli-Coat and my applications of Liquid Souveran and SSII. I used a clean applicator and clean microfiber to remove each product. Any observations made are purely subjective - you should make your own decision.

After M205 and Optimum Finish - no sealant or wax applied


relatively swirl-free


Liquid Souveran on the left, SSII on the right. In my personal opinion, I like the looks of SSII better. I think LS darkened the paint a bit, whereas SSII brightened it up. Just my opinion, for whatever it's worth.


Liquid Souveran side


Signature Series II side


Hope this helps. Sorry they aren't in the sun - the sun was out for a bit and then it disappeared. Maybe it will help you make a decision. Good luck! :xyxthumbs:

EDIT: I should note, slickness felt about the same under my fingers. However, when I threw a microfiber on the hood, it would slide off on the Liquid Souveran, but it wouldn't on the Signature Series II side. I don't know if that necessarily means anything - you can take it for whatever it's worth. Also, I will post back when I get some beading pics. There is a good chance of rain Monday and Tuesday, so hopefully I can get some then.
 
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Gonna show these two again

After polish, no LSP applied


After Poli-Coat, LS, and SSII


You'd probably get a better idea of the performance of these products on a color like black or perhaps red, but on white, it is what it is.
 
CieraSL said:
Gonna show these two again

After polish, no LSP applied


After Poli-Coat, LS, and SSII


You'd probably get a better idea of the performance of these products on a color like black or perhaps red, but on white, it is what it is.
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Believe it or not, that LSP helped a ton. It looks a lot shinier after the wax than after the polish. I am very grateful to you for taking time to document this for me, as per your suggestions, and per what I can see from my limited prospective (I actually can see that the SSII side is better looking) I will be purchasing some Signature Series II for my LSP on top of DP-Poli Coat.

Thanks so much for the help and your time! :props::xyxthumbs::dblthumb2:Im the MAN:cheers::awesome::drool:
 
Glad I could help! :xyxthumbs: I love Signature Series II. It smells so fruity and nummy! :hungry:

I will say, I'm glad got the sample of Liquid Souveran first. Would have been a shame to buy it and then be disappointed with it. Thanks for the sample program AG! :dblthumb2:
 
CieraSL said:
Glad I could help! :xyxthumbs: I love Signature Series II. It smells so fruity and nummy! :hungry:

I will say, I'm glad got the sample of Liquid Souveran first. Would have been a shame to buy it and then be disappointed with it. Maybe you should get a sample yourself and see if you like it - however I think you're going to like the looks of SSII better. But then again, one never knows.
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Good! I look forward to using it! And it's cheaper price tag is definitely a bonus. :xyxthumbs:

I tend to like paste waxes much better than liquid waxes...they just seem to work better/last longer for me.
 
To the Op i am going to be running a test on the hood of my championship white EK9 in a week or two and Glacier is one of the contenders.

The full list

Swissvax Glacier,
Zymol Glasur,
Dodo Juice Supernatural and
Valentines Concours.


I plan to do a quick sheeting vid and beading pics after being applied and then again after a month (no Qd's will be used on test panel) and keep going till one or more start to show signs of drop off..


I can post the pics etc on here if you wish?
 
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That would be fantastic! I have had suggestions from people to use Supernatural, I haven't had anyone reccomend the swissvax glacier, and I don't know the other 2 but I know zymol makes good stuff!
Thanks!
 
if anyone hasnt tryed pinnacle waxes . they should.. there missing out ..:xyxthumbs:
 
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