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Alex22

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Hi im in the process of gettin a DA polisher for first time and need help deciding on a economic polisher that will get the job done.
The one I think i will go with is the PC 7424XPR thats $107whith shipp.
There is also the Griots that goes for 130 Plus shipping wich will be over 150 dollars im sure.
I guess what I want to say is buyin a PC a good idea I mean its my first time and i have heard Griots has more power and that PC would not harm the cars paint at all. Should Just order the PC? Im kinda on a budget.:buffing:
What are your experiances?
Any other tips for this newbie?
Thanks in advanced.
 
I bought it else where other than AG.
I was deciding on GG or Meg, i already have a 7424XP.
But i got GG because it was stronger, but now that i got it, the quality seem very low, so im going to return it....

I might pick up the Meguiar one after returning the GG

Also bad thing about the GG is the on and off switch is on the side, instead of the top
 
fender you can switch the power switch of needed garry dean has a video about doing it with a shurhold which is basically same design. and all tools are used before sent out its factory testing, and you could have gotten a refurbished one as well fender.try it before you return it, you are doing this as a hobby so it will work just fine for you, your not using it 8+hours a day 5-6 days a week.
 
fenderpicks said:
I just received my GG 6"
And the polisher look freaking USED.....
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Hey I dont know if its wrong to ask as i am new here but how much did it cost you? I mean the xp is 106.99 shipped to my door and have decided that im a newbie and dont need that much power yet and that even pro detailers still use it and has lasted them 2 plus years than im sure that it will be a great tool till I eventually upgrade in about 2 years.
Fenderpicks hows the xp been working with ya?:buffing:
 
Id hop on the griots while they have the sale tonight. I had a PC then upgraded, you won't regret the GG 6 inch.
 
fenderpicks said:
I bought it else where other than AG.
I was deciding on GG or Meg, i already have a 7424XP.
But i got GG because it was stronger, but now that i got it, the quality seem very low, so im going to return it....

I might pick up the Meguiar one after returning the GG

Also bad thing about the GG is the on and off switch is on the side, instead of the top
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There is a reason why people buy them from places like Autogeek.

I had heard someone say you can actually rotate the Griot's housing to get the switch where you want it but forget where I saw that.
 
Hi Alex,

Porter Cable has been in the power tool business since the very early 1900's. They have produced some of the finest tools available to the consumer and outsell many of its competitors even to this day.

The Porter Cable 7424xp is a great machine and will serve you well and seems to be priced right!


Porter Cable style

These are probably more the type your looking for but make no mistake, these are quality machines capable of correcting some of the most stubborn finish defects.

  • Porter Cable
  • Griot's
  • Meguiar's
Porter Cable wrote the book on these polishers long before the other two were even through of.

The first generation Porter Cable 7424 was available to customers 12 years prior to Meguiar's announcing they were entering the market with them offering their G110 polisher in 2006. I'm not sure when Griot's began offering their polisher...

The Porter Cable 7424 basically set the standard which made many if the features between the 3 interchangeable.

To the best of my knowledge Porter Cable is the only company listed above that designs and manufactures their power tools. Griot's and Meguiar's are not in the power tool manufacturing business therefore contract their orders and my guess to the lowest bidder. But this probably also applies to Porter Cable now that everyone's left the US to manufacture abroad...

Griot's has the most powerful motor among the three. The Porter Cable 7424xp is the second generation polisher which outsells the others combined.

Meguiar's falls into the same realm as Griot's in regard to manufacturing power tools.

Pad Size

The Porter Cable style polishes are right at home with a 5" backing plate and using 5 1/2" foam pads, not the 6 1/2 diameter pads typically offered.

Pads & Friction

The size or surface area does not directly affect the frictional force between two surfaces until downward force or pressure is applied. Reducing the pad size will only improve the mechanical efficiency of the machine.

The motor of your polisher produces some amount of power. The larger the pad surface area the harder the motor must work. Now, most will say "it's only 1 extra inch", but when it comes to surface area and friction your really talking about an additional 10 square inches. Now take a look at the difference between the 5 1/2", 6 1/2" and 7" pad...........Size does matter!

  • Surface Area - 5 1/2 pad = 23.75 in²
  • Surface Area - 6 1/2 pad = 33.18 in²
  • Surface Area - 7 pad = 38.484 in²
There is a direct relationship between the pad surface area and the polishers ability to transfer adequate power to the pad improving it's overall performance.

My Choice: The Porter Cable 7424xp

Dual Action Polisher

1. - Working with a dual action polisher

2. - The Porter Cable 7424, backing plate, and pads

Hope this helps.....:props:
 
BobbyG said:
Hi Alex,

Porter Cable has been in the power tool business since the very early 1900's. They have produced some of the finest tools available to the consumer and outsell many of its competitors even to this day.

The Porter Cable 7424xp is a great machine and will serve you well and seems to be priced right!


Porter Cable style

These are probably more the type your looking for but make no mistake, these are quality machines capable of correcting some of the most stubborn finish defects.

  • Porter Cable
  • Griot's
  • Meguiar's
Porter Cable wrote the book on these polishers long before the other two were even through of.

The first generation Porter Cable 7424 was available to customers 12 years prior to Meguiar's announcing they were entering the market with them offering their G110 polisher in 2006. I'm not sure when Griot's began offering their polisher...

The Porter Cable 7424 basically set the standard which made many if the features between the 3 interchangeable.

To the best of my knowledge Porter Cable is the only company listed above that designs and manufactures their power tools. Griot's and Meguiar's are not in the power tool manufacturing business therefore contract their orders and my guess to the lowest bidder. But this probably also applies to Porter Cable now that everyone's left the US to manufacture abroad...

Griot's has the most powerful motor among the three. The Porter Cable 7424xp is the second generation polisher which outsells the others combined.

Meguiar's falls into the same realm as Griot's in regard to manufacturing power tools.

Pad Size

The Porter Cable style polishes are right at home with a 5" backing plate and using 5 1/2" foam pads, not the 6 1/2 diameter pads typically offered.

Pads & Friction

The size or surface area does not directly affect the frictional force between two surfaces until downward force or pressure is applied. Reducing the pad size will only improve the mechanical efficiency of the machine.

The motor of your polisher produces some amount of power. The larger the pad surface area the harder the motor must work. Now, most will say "it's only 1 extra inch", but when it comes to surface area and friction your really talking about an additional 10 square inches. Now take a look at the difference between the 5 1/2", 6 1/2" and 7" pad...........Size does matter!

  • Surface Area - 5 1/2 pad = 23.75 in²
  • Surface Area - 6 1/2 pad = 33.18 in²
  • Surface Area - 7 pad = 38.484 in²
There is a direct relationship between the pad surface area and the polishers ability to transfer adequate power to the pad improving it's overall performance.

My Choice: The Porter Cable 7424xp

Dual Action Polisher

1. - Working with a dual action polisher

2. - The Porter Cable 7424, backing plate, and pads

Hope this helps.....:props:
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Thanks, it did help a lot, I am going to get the xp thanks to this.
 
Good choice. The PC used properly has a lot of correcting ability. You just have to use the right polish, pads, and techniques. I'm actually still using an old PC (non XP) and it works great for me. Don't feel I need anymore "power"; but then again I'm only taking care of my 2 cars. Just make sure you get 5.5" pads, what type isnt as important.
 
Alex22 said:
Hi im in the process of gettin a DA polisher for first time and need help deciding on a economic polisher that will get the job done.
The one I think i will go with is the PC 7424XPR thats $107whith shipp.
There is also the Griots that goes for 130 Plus shipping wich will be over 150 dollars im sure.
I guess what I want to say is buyin a PC a good idea I mean its my first time and i have heard Griots has more power and that PC would not harm the cars paint at all. Should Just order the PC? Im kinda on a budget.:buffing:
What are your experiances?
Any other tips for this newbie?
Thanks in advanced.
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A PC, GG, etc all will do a great job. Technique and proper usage of the products (pads, polish, etc) will make the bigger difference.

I would recommend going with a 5" backing plate and 5.5" pads which are 7/8" thick. The lower profile pads are much easier to work with and control.


In this case, since the PC is cheaper, I'd go with the PC and use the savings to invest in pads and product.
 
Im biting my nails here I though I had decided on PC but griots DA still mingles in my head. Ouch :pc7424: what my head needs to do -> :idea: whats actually happening in my head ->:argue:
Ok offtopic in the end there here are the prices in retrospect:
With PC = $165.88 that comes with 7424xp plus 6 5.5 Lake Country CC pads and 5in backing plate, Exact Change shipping included

Option Two: $183.88 Griots Garage with same kit as the xp the pads and backing plate. Not including shipping for anything.

Option Three: $188.88 for the above with the pads and backing plate accounted in the shipping but still need to add the griots da polisher shipping price.
 
I really really like my griots. I bought mine over a year ago and I only use it a few times a year. But recently I have seen some postings from people who were unhappy with their GG. So I dunno if something has changed?
 
Alex22 said:
Ok offtopic in the end there here are the prices in retrospect:
With PC = $165.88 that comes with 7424xp plus 6 5.5 Lake Country CC pads and 5in backing plate, Exact Change shipping included

Option Two: $183.88 Griots Garage with same kit as the xp the pads and backing plate. Not including shipping for anything.

Option Three: $188.88 for the above with the pads and backing plate accounted in the shipping but still need to add the griots da polisher shipping price.
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If you are a weekend detailer think of it this way--say you are taking care of 2 cars which you polish and apply sealant or wax annually and apply wax or sealant 3 addtional times each year. So you use your polisher 8 times a year and in three years 24 times--then it breaks--do you think you can get anything repaired for the $25 or so more you paid for the GG RO?? So if you have the GG 6 and this happens you call Groits and they either replace or repair it (if you didn't buy it direct from them you might have to pay one way shipping charges). For us weekenders I think it makes more sense to go with the GG 6--not to mention it has enough power to do anything you might want to do with a RO--I don't think many of us in a weekend situation would ever jump up to the cost of a Flex.
 
I have the g110v2, love it. The Griots would be my second choice.
 
I bought my xp off another forum and it came with a lifetime warranty.
 
BobbyG said:
Hi Alex,

Porter Cable has been in the power tool business since the very early 1900's. They have produced some of the finest tools available to the consumer and outsell many of its competitors even to this day.

The Porter Cable 7424xp is a great machine and will serve you well and seems to be priced right!


Porter Cable style

These are probably more the type your looking for but make no mistake, these are quality machines capable of correcting some of the most stubborn finish defects.

  • Porter Cable
  • Griot's
  • Meguiar's
Porter Cable wrote the book on these polishers long before the other two were even through of.

The first generation Porter Cable 7424 was available to customers 12 years prior to Meguiar's announcing they were entering the market with them offering their G110 polisher in 2006. I'm not sure when Griot's began offering their polisher...

The Porter Cable 7424 basically set the standard which made many if the features between the 3 interchangeable.

To the best of my knowledge Porter Cable is the only company listed above that designs and manufactures their power tools. Griot's and Meguiar's are not in the power tool manufacturing business therefore contract their orders and my guess to the lowest bidder. But this probably also applies to Porter Cable now that everyone's left the US to manufacture abroad...

Griot's has the most powerful motor among the three. The Porter Cable 7424xp is the second generation polisher which outsells the others combined.

Meguiar's falls into the same realm as Griot's in regard to manufacturing power tools.

Pad Size

The Porter Cable style polishes are right at home with a 5" backing plate and using 5 1/2" foam pads, not the 6 1/2 diameter pads typically offered.

Pads & Friction

The size or surface area does not directly affect the frictional force between two surfaces until downward force or pressure is applied. Reducing the pad size will only improve the mechanical efficiency of the machine.

The motor of your polisher produces some amount of power. The larger the pad surface area the harder the motor must work. Now, most will say "it's only 1 extra inch", but when it comes to surface area and friction your really talking about an additional 10 square inches. Now take a look at the difference between the 5 1/2", 6 1/2" and 7" pad...........Size does matter!

  • Surface Area - 5 1/2 pad = 23.75 in²
  • Surface Area - 6 1/2 pad = 33.18 in²
  • Surface Area - 7 pad = 38.484 in²
There is a direct relationship between the pad surface area and the polishers ability to transfer adequate power to the pad improving it's overall performance.

My Choice: The Porter Cable 7424xp

Dual Action Polisher

1. - Working with a dual action polisher

2. - The Porter Cable 7424, backing plate, and pads

Hope this helps.....:props:
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...wow dude. That's pretty damn informative.
 
Black Car said:
...wow dude. That's pretty damn informative.
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yes it is, helped me out a bunch as well, but overall im getting the griots for the reasons, lifetime warranty because im starting without knowing anything and if i dont get to passionate about it im proabalably going to only use this about 5-6 times a year and in 2 years with the porter cable if anything happens to it it will suck compared to if I had the griots. They are basicly same price and griots also happens to have more power/torque incase if i do get serious that it can tackle any job.:buffing:
 
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