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D&D Auto Detailing said:
You're telling me you can get the paint to finish with the same amount of gloss using PG compared to 106 or 85rd?

If you honestly finish a car down with PG and dont see a benefit going over it with a finishing polish then something is wrong. I also find your post pretty funny considering you dont understand how/ when to use the Menzerna polishes. That obviously shows here!

You must not be looking at the finish correctly. Just because it doesnt have imperfections does not necessarily mean its LSP ready.



It really isnt that difficult. Some people just dont care to use products how they were intended to be used. They just want to get it done as fast as possible.
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Well since you took this personal, show me/us All the cars you've done with multiple steps like you are talking about?

Most have seen mine.

Looking on your site shows that you offer several different staged options for your clients. So, you do not do the same process for every "detail". You also talk of using glazes which, to most here, fill. So, do not come down on my processes ,which keep my customers happy, in a public forum.

I use products as they are intended. We are allowed to experiment though. I didn't know this was all set in stone. I do 4-6 corrections per week......I think I may have learned something you know. True, multi steps help for the beginner and there is a place and time for them, but EVERY detail is Different. If you don't agree with that, then ignorance is upon us.

If there was just one right way to do this all, there would be one soap, one polish, one wax, one machine, etc. But guess what, there isn't.
 
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justin30513 said:
Well since you took this personal, show me/us All the cars you've done with multiple steps like you are talking about?

Most have seen mine.

Looking on your site shows that you offer several different staged options for your clients. So, you do not do the same process for every "detail". You also talk of using glazes which, to most here, fill. So, do not come down on my processes ,which keep my customers happy, in a public forum.

I use products as they are intended. We are allowed to experiment though. I didn't know this was all set in stone. I do 4-6 corrections per week......I think I may have learned something you know. True, multi steps help for the beginner and there is a place and time for them, but EVERY detail is Different. If you don't agree with that, then ignorance is upon us.

If there was just one right way to do this all, there would be one soap, one polish, one wax, one machine, etc. But guess what, there isn't.
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Im not taking it personal, but it seems you are. There are people on here that want to do it correctly and not take short cuts. So when someone posts bad info, Ill put in my opinion. As far as glazes, Ive never applied any glaze to a single car except for mine. I also need to edit my site. I did have an option for a glaze, but that was removed a long time ago. A glaze does not add anything when a car is polished correctly. So thanks for pointing that out. I also never said anything was set in stone, or every detail is the same, but there is a difference between right and wrong.

Remember, the people on here are not your customers. People here want to learn how to get the job done right. Like you said, your customers could care less what products you use and they dont know the difference. Pleasing someone that doesnt know a single thing about detailing isnt something to rave about.
 
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D&D Auto Detailing said:
Im not taking it personal, but it seems you are. There are people on here that want to do it correctly and not take short cuts. So when someone posts bad info, Ill put in my opinion. As far as glazes, PLEASE show me where Ive used a glaze. Ive never applied a glaze to a single car except for mine. I also never said anything was set in stone, or every detail is the same, but there is a difference between right and wrong.
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After polishing is complete, the entire car is rewashed with 0 ppm water from a de- ionized water filtration system. This removes all polishing dust and ensures a spot- free finish. Then the paint receives a coat of Carnauba wax or a synthetic wax. Before applying the wax and or synthetic wax, the entire car receives a wipe down to cleanse the paint which allows the wax or synthetic wax to bond better. A glaze can also be added for even more depth and wetness.

This is from your site.

There's a hundred correct ways to detail. Not just yours. Once again, let's see your work of some multi stage correction and I will show you some of my one stage then LSP. I bet that none can tell the difference.

 
Funny how you JUST edited your above post once I pointed out that you offered that on your site.............
 
justin30513 said:
After polishing is complete, the entire car is rewashed with 0 ppm water from a de- ionized water filtration system. This removes all polishing dust and ensures a spot- free finish. Then the paint receives a coat of Carnauba wax or a synthetic wax. Before applying the wax and or synthetic wax, the entire car receives a wipe down to cleanse the paint which allows the wax or synthetic wax to bond better. A glaze can also be added for even more depth and wetness.

This is from your site.

There's a hundred correct ways to detail. Not just yours. Once again, let's see your work of some multi stage correction and I will show you some of my one stage then LSP. I bet that none can tell the difference.

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Yeah, like I told you. I had an option for a glaze, but that was removed a long time ago and I forgot to edit the description. So again, show me where Ive used one.

Of course you wouldnt be able to tell the difference in pictures. So what, what difference does that make? Pictures dont show crap when it comes to looking at paint. I guarantee you in person, a multi step polish will look better then your one stage. Take the same car, do one side with your one step and the other with a multi step polish, one side is going to look better.
 
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D&D Auto Detailing said:
Im not taking it personal, but it seems you are. There are people on here that want to do it correctly and not take short cuts. So when someone posts bad info, Ill put in my opinion. As far as glazes, Ive never applied any glaze to a single car except for mine. I also need to edit my site. I did have an option for a glaze, but that was removed a long time ago. A glaze does not add anything when a car is polished correctly. So thanks for pointing that out. I also never said anything was set in stone, or every detail is the same, but there is a difference between right and wrong.

Remember, the people on here are not your customers. People here want to learn how to get the job done right. Like you said, your customers could care less what products you use and they dont know the difference. Pleasing someone that doesnt know a single thing about detailing isnt something to rave about.
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D&D Auto Detailing said:
Yeah, like I told you. I had an option for a glaze, but that was removed a long time ago and I forgot to edit the description. So again, show me where Ive used one.

Of course you wouldnt be able to tell the difference in pictures. So what, what difference does that make? Pictures dont show crap when it comes to looking at paint. I guarantee you in person, a multi step polish will look better then your one stage. Take the same car, do one side with your one step and the other with a multi step polish, one side is going to look better.
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9.5 out of 10 of my (or your) paying customers will not see it either.......in person. I know, I've asked.

Have you?
 
So what if your customer, who doesnt know anything, doesnt notice? Like I told you, the people you detail for and the people on here trying to learn are different. We are trying to give advice to people on this forum. They will have higher standards then your customers. And as they learn more, their standards rise too. If they dont, then they can take the short cut way.
 
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I guess taking the bus is a shortcut over walking.
I'm done with this thread. I know what I have done and what has worked. I was using Power Gloss way before it was sold here........way before you were a member.

Thanks to all that was listening.
 
Thats a terrible comparison, but ok, we're done. :cheers:
 
Ive never used PG but from my experience with other polishes/compounds you cant achieve the same gloss with a polish that has that amount of cut. I guess in theory you could work it in for a reallllllllyy long long time and the abrasives would break down to the point that it would turn into a finishing polish, but ive never seen it done. Doesnt mean it cant be, it just seems a little bit of a stretch to finish LSP perfect without the use of a finishing polish. I can notice a big diffrence after going over a panel just done with IP using Nano, there is a clear and utter jump in gloss, but who know maybe i could have worked it in longer and achived the same results, maybe not, i can seee it from both way of the spectrum.
 
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I've used powergloss with a yellow foam pad and gotten it pretty bloody good. Sure SIP with an orange or white will improve it a little more but if you spend the time with PG, even with a heavy cut pad, it will finish very nicely.

95% of the time, I'll go PG, SIP or IP and 106 and ultra gloss superpolish and it's flawless.

Nothing wrong with PG and SIP for a good two stepper but three to four steps is better.
 
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