Pressure washer short gun recommendations

[Azure]

When MTM launched the new bottle and adaptor, they copped a lot of flak for it supposedly being a half assed job. Personally, I think what they did was quite smart as it addressed a major flaw in the previous model, as in the narrow bottle opening, but it also allowed existing customers to upgrade their older foam cannons. It can also be used to upgrade a non-MTM foam cannon.

Some of the early reviews complained about the bayonet style attachment between the bottle and cannon adaptor. However, it's actually really convenient compared to winding in and out a threaded connection and eliminates the possibility of cross threading. Some also complained that the adaptor plate would unwind from the foam cannon body, but I've been running three of these setups and have not had this problem.









If you grip the cannon like this, you wont have issues with the threads loosening...........................





As you can see, I upgraded an older foam cannon...............................



I think what separates the MTM foam cannon is how it uses less soap solution per vehicle, without compromising foam quality. That non-MTM foam cannon above riffles through soap at a much higher rate.

I agree with you, I like the design. I think it was important for them to design something that could upgrade their previous models. MTM's foam canons were built to last...except for those dang bottle threads. It's winter now but I'm looking forward to using the new larger bottles and connection.

 

[chefwong]

Is there a significant difference with a (stubby) body gun vs a standard.
I haven't dug tech specs to look at dimensions, but in use case - I cannot see how a smaller length body of the gun changes how one would even hold - let's say a gun fairly at a angle, upside down, etc when getting into a wheel well and or upside down cleaning the *latch* of a split hatch where there is a recess.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

SG35…. 5 years and it’s been great. Added a mosmatic swivel. Definitely nicer but not anything game changing


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[DFB]

Is there a significant difference with a (stubby) body gun vs a standard.
I haven't dug tech specs to look at dimensions, but in use case - I cannot see how a smaller length body of the gun changes how one would even hold - let's say a gun fairly at a angle, upside down, etc when getting into a wheel well and or upside down cleaning the *latch* of a split hatch where there is a recess.

The biggest advantage of the stubby gun centers around foam cannon use and wheel cleaning.

A standard gun is very awkward for cleaning wheels. You can get adaptors for an OE gun to fit a nozzle tip to the gun without the long lance attachment, but it's still too long.



You also get easy attachment and better control over the foam cannon on a short gun instead of it hanging off the end of a OE long gun.





The other thing I like is having a bent wand/lance attachment. You don't need this for regular rinsing, but its nice to have the ability to swivel the lance upwards to provide easy cleaning of wheel arches and underbody.



Its all about small incremental improvements that add up to a nicer user experience.

 

[chefwong]

For clarity, I am not discussing a Pressure Washer gun with a tip right off of it.
That has been a -marketing- word in the car detailing....that came about a few years ago and I chuckled when 1'st saw it being marketed as such.

I've been using Pressure Washer guns + a tip (ceramic tip with hooded protecter) for almost 2 decades now...
A PW gun with a tip on it is nothing new......or special. It is just that....a gun, with a sized orifice tip and a 1/4 connector...
I did say Ceramic tip right. Counting down till one of the detailing e-stores sell this and upsell it...


I was referring to the Short Body gun (like the SG28), where the body of the gun is a smidge smaller and being marketed as such

 

[DFB]

For clarity, I am not discussing a Pressure Washer gun with a tip right off of it.
That has been a -marketing- word in the car detailing....that came about a few years ago and I chuckled when 1'st saw it being marketed as such.

I've been using Pressure Washer guns + a tip (ceramic tip with hooded protecter) for almost 2 decades now...
A PW gun with a tip on it is nothing new......or special. It is just that....a gun, with a sized orifice tip and a 1/4 connector...
I did say Ceramic tip right. Counting down till one of the detailing e-stores sell this and upsell it...


I was referring to the Short Body gun (like the SG28), where the body of the gun is a smidge smaller and being marketed as such

But you don't have that regulation extra length with an OE gun though.

 

[chefwong]

I was replying to your last reply to my question - to clarify I'm not disussing the lance but the PW gun body size.

And yes, I misread OP post - he was discussing the OE wand with generally a fixed extension that one cannot swap between different -lance- lengths. I can't recall using the OE lance ever......even on new pressure washers, I tend to remove the OE electrical cord and put a cord of appropriate length in SEOOW cable.

OCD , overkill me....I bought a bajillion different lance lengths when I did my PW setup. Alot of lengths I did not end up using...but after years...when I got my Undercarriage wand last year, Ha, I finally had a use case for the 48" lance to be used with the Undercarriage Wand.

 

[Eldorado2k]

I was replying to your last reply to my question - to clarify I'm not disussing the lance but the PW gun body size.

And yes, I misread OP post - he was discussing the OE wand with generally a fixed extension that one cannot swap between different -lance- lengths. I can't recall using the OE lance ever......even on new pressure washers, I tend to remove the OE electrical cord and put a cord of appropriate length in SEOOW cable.

OCD , overkill me....I bought a bajillion different lance lengths when I did my PW setup. Alot of lengths I did not end up using...but after years...when I got my Undercarriage wand last year, Ha, I finally had a use case for the 48" lance to be used with the Undercarriage Wand.

Can you please post pictures of the gun or wand you use with your pressure washer setup? At this point it’s the only real + easiest way to clarify because some of us would like to know.

 

[chefwong]

Here ya go.
I was not clear about your previous post but I am now. You have a *stock kit gun*.......
To me, when I think of a PW gun, my mind default to what I consider PW setups...which are basically single components pieces -pieced- together.

I think the - auto detailing stubby gun- term started when I think DD starting selling this setup and calling it a stubby gun. Like it was something new.....
And or some other online retailer. I recall just saying to myself there is nothing new about a PW gun with a tip right off the end, but that goes with alot of -fad of the month auto detailing splurges I suppose-

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[DFB]

The stubby/short gun certainly wasn't/isn't a new thing, as has been pointed out, they have existed in the professional pressure washing space for decades. I really don't think anyone is calling them a new thing.

What is new though is how the stubby gun has become a mainstream thing within the pro and enthusiast detailing space, although less so in the pro space. How many weekenders knew about stubby guns or where to get them before that, they were restricted to specialist pressure washer suppliers. Since gaining exposure, pretty much all detailing suppliers now carry stubby guns, making them more accessible and easier for a customer to adapt to any given pressure washer. Again, that didn't exist before then.

So, to me, the stubby gun is not hype or a fad, it genuinely solves a functionality problem and makes using a pressure washer easier and more convenient.

 

[Bunky]

The stubby/short gun certainly wasn't/isn't a new thing, as has been pointed out, they have existed in the professional pressure washing space for decades. I really don't think anyone is calling them a new thing.

This is true for many things. People make a career on youtube about touting methods and products that have been around for years. For new comers, they believe messenger is some great sage.

 

[Eldorado2k]

Here ya go.
I was not clear about your previous post but I am now. You have a *stock kit gun*.......
To me, when I think of a PW gun, my mind default to what I consider PW setups...which are basically single components pieces -pieced- together.

I think the - auto detailing stubby gun- term started when I think DD starting selling this setup and calling it a stubby gun. Like it was something new.....
And or some other online retailer. I recall just saying to myself there is nothing new about a PW gun with a tip right off the end, but that goes with alot of -fad of the month auto detailing splurges I suppose-

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