Product Review: Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal

Vegas Transplant said:
Somebody's gonna have to get it through my thick skull how one WOWA is easier to apply than another.
Care to elaborate?
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First question: did you watch the 2 videos above? I both I tried to show how easy these WOWA sealants are to use and apply.


I guess the big thing is that you wipe it onto the paint and your done. If applied properly you don't have to wait for it to haze and you don't have to buff anything off. You can really put a coat on an entire vehicle in 15mins and be done.

Another thing is the cure time for these is shorter. As per Todd Helme the cure time of BFCS is about 1 hr so I can easily wash a car and put 2-3 coats of sealant on in a day or even an afternoon.


I hope this helps a little. If you have any other questions or specific concerns ask and we'll see if we can find and answer out together.
 
TroyScherer said:

I was the same way Dave. But surprisingly BFCS and WGDGLS are easier to apply than UPGP. And I have all three here to try and test. I am considering a 3 way torture test in the same style as one of Corey's classics.
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I do agree that CS is easier to use than UPGP, however UPGP does last longer IME. That said, can't wait to see your test! DDMJ!
Vegas Transplant said:
Somebody's gonna have to get it through my thick skull how one WOWA is easier to apply than another.
Care to elaborate?



http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...-interesting-good-observation.html#post765241
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With a normal wax/sealant you have to wipe on, let haze, then wipe off. With these, you just wipe on. It's not going to save you an hour, but it will save time, and for some of us time is money. :props:
 
*First, let me say "Thank You".:props:

Not just for the video and thread/review, but for all that you do for the AGO forums.

*Yes, I did...several times.
Thanks to your video, I pretty much am keeping with using a cotton towel folded into eights instead of trying a mf applicator pad. I was on the fence about using that method.

*You guys are true aficionados when it comes to the nuances of detailing products :props:

Me? Something shakes my paradigm and I stick with it until a new something comes along...roughly every few years.
I also get stuck on semantics. I just want to understand the thought. In the rooms there is a saying that goes -"this too shall be revealed".

Thanks Troy for trying to help me out. You're a good hand:dblthumb2:
 
Vegas Transplant said:
*First, let me say "Thank You".:props:

Not just for the video and thread/review, but for all that you do for the AGO forums.

*Yes, I did...several times.
Thanks to your video, I pretty much am keeping with using a cotton towel folded into eights instead of trying a mf applicator pad. I was on the fence about using that method.

*You guys are true aficionados when it comes to the nuances of detailing products :props:

Me? Something shakes my paradigm and I stick with it until a new something comes along...roughly every few years.
I also get stuck on semantics. I just want to understand the thought. In the rooms there is a saying that goes -"this too shall be revealed".

Thanks Troy for trying to help me out. You're a good hand:dblthumb2:
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Well if you have any questions ask.


But I guess the best thing for me and anyone in detailing is this. You find a product you like and that works for you and use it often. That is why there are so many variations and options out there.

 
Flannigan said:
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With a normal wax/sealant you have to wipe on, let haze, then wipe off. With these, you just wipe on. It's not going to save you an hour, but it will save time, and for some of us time is money. :props:
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I think that this kind of product for you guys that detail for money can be a home-run. Even for me, that have all the time in the world, it can mean leaving the car in the garage because it is raining and the 12 hours are still counting and going out just 1 hour later after applying it (not to mention not needing to let haze, remove, etc).
 
TroyScherer said:
Well if you have any questions ask.


But I guess the best thing for me and anyone in detailing is this. You find a product you like and that works for you and use it often. That is why there are so many variations and options out there.
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OK here we go.
If the product is a true WOWA, how can one be easier to apply than another?
I've only used one WOWA sealant, OOS, and don't understand those that say "A" is easier to apply than "B", which is easier to apply than "C".

Now if one was to say that "A" out performs "B". Or to say that "C" has more bling. Or to say that "B" has better durability, I could wrap my brain around these.

But to say that one is easier to apply, gets me everytime.
Not being a smart aleck, guess that I'm just hung up. That's all. 10-04?
 
Vegas Transplant said:
OK here we go.
If the product is a true WOWA, how can one be easier to apply than another?
I've only used one WOWA sealant, OOS, and don't understand those that say "A" is easier to apply than "B", which is easier to apply than "C".

Now if one was to say that "A" out performs "B". Or to say that "C" has more bling. Or to say that "B" has better durability, I could wrap my brain around these.

But to say that one is easier to apply, gets me everytime.
Not being a smart aleck, guess that I'm just hung up. That's all. 10-04?
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I totally understand where you are coming from. Lets try looking at it from a different angle. When using Nuba waxes or even sealants. You have certain waxes or sealants that are much easier to apply than others even though in the end they accomplish the same goal.

So with these WOWA sealants it really is how easy they spread / level out / cure. I have the previous version of OOS as well. So I have 4 different WOWA sealants. And each one of them is slightly different. It really is small differences in some areas but they seem to be there. I personally find BFCS and WDDGLS very similar but still different then OOS or UPGP.

And as Dave noted earlier, there is a difference in look and even durability that just adds to everything. But sometimes the only way to see or understand the nuances is to really use them for yourself.


 
Vegas Transplant said:
Somebody's gonna have to get it through my thick skull how one WOWA is easier to apply than another.
Care to elaborate?
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For what it's worth. I'm new to these forums and don't have the expertise most of you have but maybe the question isn't whether one WOWA is easier to apply than another but whether some are more finicky than others.

Last week, I applied 3 coats of UPGP to my black Acura, waiting an hour between coats.

By all accounts, the key to good results seems to be not to use too much product. Overuse (at least with UPGP) can cause streaks.

Anyway, the first coat went on beautifully. Same with the second coat, and after 2 coats I was pretty pleased with my nice glossy wet appearance. However, working to protect my car from another brutal Wisconsin winter, I added a third coat but got a bit greedy and used slightly more product this time. Sure enough, I encountered a few streaks with this final coat and had to work to buff them away.

So my question is, although Blackfire, Wolfgang and Ultra have similar application directions, does anybody have any experience to indicate whether one might be more "forgiving" than the others?

I've got a WG sample on the way and maybe can test it out this weekend but just thought I would ask.

Best,

Steve
 
1953hogan said:
So my question is, although Blackfire, Wolfgang and Ultra have similar application directions, does anybody have any experience to indicate whether one might be more "forgiving" than the others?

Steve
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Welcome Steve.

I have all three along with Optimum OS. So I have 4 WOWA sealants.

In my personal experience BFCS and WGDGLS are the most forgiving in their application and use. I have applied WGDGLS very heavy just to see what would happen and it spread out easily and flashed nicly.
 
Thanks, Troy, I thought that might be the case. I plan to do a quick detail this weekend and will top it off with the WGDGLS. Or maybe will do a panel or two and watch the durability vs UPGP.

Appreciate your insight.

Steve
 
Guys, here is perhaps a stupid question from a newbie.

Effectively, what is the difference between

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal

and

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Spritz Sealant?

Do those of you who use the first also use the second one, too?

Thanks,

Steve
 
1953hogan said:
Guys, here is perhaps a stupid question from a newbie.

Effectively, what is the difference between

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal

and

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Spritz Sealant?

Do those of you who use the first also use the second one, too?

Thanks,

Steve
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Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal is a WOWA sealant. With the durability hopefully,in the 3-6 month timeframe.

Wolfgang Deep Gloss Spritz Sealant to me is more of a top up detail spray with a durability in weeks not months. It works good as a post wash top up detail spray. But for me personally I would consider it a standalone sealant product. Basically the same way I see and use CG V7 as a top up detail spray. It's not really a true sealant. Just and enhanced spray detailer with a little added protection.

I have obviously used both. And if I were to use them both it would go like this. WG DGLS x2-3 coats. WG DGSS as a post wash top up after every wash or so based on my desire. You could even use it just once a month to prolong the life and looks.
 
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