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Ok, This is a list of product so far. Any thing im missing or changes I should make please let me know. Thanks!



1. WG Fuzion

2. XMT 360 CCS

3. Pinn. Glasswork water spot remover

4. Megs D120 Glass cleaner

5. Chem. guys Honey Dew

6. Megs D108 Super degreaser

7. BF pad cleaner

8. Megs D103 APC+

9. Opti. Liquid car wax

10. Opti. Car wash

11. Opti. Tire gel

12. Detailers Rinseless wash & gloss

13. Pinn. ultra poly clay

14. 303 aerospace convertible protectant & cleaner

15. Opti. leather cleaner

16. Diamondite Headlight lens kit
 
Instead of xmt 360 for an aio get megs d151 $35 a gallon and i promise u won't use any thing else. Also get some megs m100 for heavy correction it's great.
Also megs da correction system will not disappoint i swear by it and d151

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Instead of xmt 360 for an aio get megs d151 $35 a gallon and i promise u won't use any thing else. Also get some megs m100 for heavy correction it's great.
Also megs da correction system will not disappoint i swear by it and d151

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Juat ordered the XMT 360 saw good reviews. Is the Megs d151 an AIO?
Sorry, don't mean to hijack, just learning about many of the products. I have been using D105 & D205 combo, been working great and had good luck with UC.
 
Juat ordered the XMT 360 saw good reviews. Is the Megs d151 an AIO?
Sorry, don't mean to hijack, just learning about many of the products. I have been using D105 & D205 combo, been working great and had good luck with UC.


How about that M101 and D300??
 
Juat ordered the XMT 360 saw good reviews. Is the Megs d151 an AIO?
Sorry, don't mean to hijack, just learning about many of the products. I have been using D105 & D205 combo, been working great and had good luck with UC.

Yes, it is. M105/M205 are staples of the detailing world, but imo M101 is much better than M105 in every way, except that it is twice as expensive :/
 
Get flat pads rather than CCS pads. I see a difference when I use XMT 360.
 


1. WG Fuzion: is at the high end for a startup... If you want a past I would suggest MaxWax or SigII. Or a liquid wax like Colli 845.

3. Pinn. Glasswork water spot remover: It is good for glass but you can get away with usung a polish or compound.

7. BF pad cleaner: I am just using Dawn and APC.

13. Pinn. ultra poly clay: Consider the newer clay replacement pads.

16. Diamondite Headlight lens kit: Get a compound and polish and then seal them with a sealant. No need for a special kit.


Do you have a polisher?

A. I would add a sealant. Liquid or WOWA
B. You have 2 different car washes. You only need one.

 
Drop the fuzion, that's pretty high end for starting out. Use something like liquid souveran, max wax, natty's red etc or even just get a sealant. I always choose a sealant over a wax for durability reasons and unless someone is a car enthusiast or they've worked with carnauba in the past, they won't care/tell. They'll be happy to have protectoin for longer from my experience.

d151 over xmt360

choose either honeydew or opt car wash, they're both popular and great products

you can use your apc+ as a degreaser

Unless you are mobile I would get a rinseless unless it's onr which you can use as a clay lube and detailer or add to you soap mix

add an aio leather cleaner and conditioner like meguiars instead of just a cleaner
 
Ok, This is a list of product so far. Any thing im missing or changes I should make please let me know. Thanks!



1. WG Fuzion

2. XMT 360 CCS

3. Pinn. Glasswork water spot remover

4. Megs D120 Glass cleaner

5. Chem. guys Honey Dew

6. Megs D108 Super degreaser

7. BF pad cleaner

8. Megs D103 APC+

9. Opti. Liquid car wax

10. Opti. Car wash

11. Opti. Tire gel

12. Detailers Rinseless wash & gloss

13. Pinn. ultra poly clay

14. 303 aerospace convertible protectant & cleaner

15. Opti. leather cleaner

16. Diamondite Headlight lens kit

My opinions:

Fuzion is an excellent choice. Looks great on any color, and you get a refill. Super easy application and removal. Why not start at the top? For an AIO, I like Optimum GPS or even PB's PwS instead of 360. I'm sure Meg's Glass Cleaner works fine, but the Pinnacle Glass Cleaner with Water Repellent is just awesome, its costly though.

HoneyDew: great choice for foam gun or cannon. BF pad cleaner is the best out there IMO. APC+ is good, especially if your using it on fabrics and carpets (less foaming). If you don't plan on using it on that, I think Duragloss APC is better.

Optimum Car Wax has always streaked and left holograms for me. Maybe because I have used it outside. If you plan on using it as a stand alone its hard to beat, but as a wax booster or drying aid there is better choices like Hydro or Aquawax.

I've never used DP Rinseless, but the waterless is terrible, which would make me shy away from the rinseless. UWW+ and Pinnacle Rinseless are awesome. Optimum Car Wash is very good. The 303 stuff for fabric tops is tops as well.

I've never used the other stuff, but don't know if I'd pay that much for clay, when the "clay alternatives" last much longer, are OK if you drop them, and are generally faster to use. I would only use clay anymore on the softest of paints - and only if I wasn't polishing after using it.

I've never used any special headlight products. You can use regular polish and sandpaper (if necessary) on headlights. Coat them once with OptiCoat and your done. Honestly, I'm not sure why Optimum came out with OptiLens, as OC has worked fine on headlights.
 
Thanks all for the info.. I have been changing some stuff to start out but all the info is great! Thanks!
 
While nobody uses *only* one brand of products, its a good idea to use as many of one brand, (and an affordable one) that you can get your hands on. Then of course you have another compound and polish you can call on, but for the most part working with one brand helps with your consistency.

The 360 stuff works well, but you'll get better use from Megs. Megs D300 & D301 will do most anything you've got (with the MF pads). You can even use the MF finishing pads and get excellent results. That alone saves you money, although two pads seem a bit pricy, it's possible to do an entire vehicle with only two cutting, and two finishing pads. If you're using foam, cutting takes from 4 (more like 6) to 8 pads to get it done, half that many for polishing.

Speaking of foam pads, nothing wrong with having some CCS in your bin with the flats. With the straight edge you'll find the CCS pads can get into places that rolled edge pads just don't handle.

Get some D151 as a middle of the road AIO. You can remove swirls with as little as a orange pad, and if they are bad (but not terrible and not on really hard paint) yellow pads work GREAT. Then move up to white or blue and run it a little for an excellent finish without having to put a dab of polish on the surface. ;)

Of course there are the cornerstones 105/205 but unless you want to deal with the learning curve you might just go for 101 (but it's pricy). One VERY GOOD solution is mixing Ultimate Compound with 105. Either prime the pad with UC and use 105 'peas', or just mix it. Play around with your mixture, maybe 1:1, or even 2:1.

Speaking of UC, make sure you have both it and Ultimate Polish in your kit. I tell the guys in the parts stores all the time that by far, they are the best working, most versatile, easiest to use, and nicest finishing products they've got in the store. Easiest the (or one of the) best OTC products out there.

Interior and exterior protectant, can't go wrong with 303. Makes the dash look nice without it being all shiny and gooey as well as it works on exterior trim, and doesn't make running boards slippery. Not making them slippery is GOLD when it comes to housewives that use them to get in and out of their SUV's and pickups.

Wheel cleaner, Megs brightener is good (and cheap) but you'll want some Sonax or IRON-X as well. While you're shopping for CarPro products, grab some TARX and grab some PERL. You can use PERL straight, 1:1, 3:1 and 5:1 for a whole host of rubber and vinyl trim duties.

Oh, and cleaner, Megs APC+ is usable in so many different situations you'll wonder how you ever lived without it. I keep three dilutions at all times. Heck even my wife uses it now and my daughter and here fiancée are putting together a new place and she's already used a quart cleaning the place up. ;)

Shampoo, Megs Hyperwash, Megs Shampoo Plus, both good. But do NOT miss having Duragloss 902 (it's the gallon version of 901). Then of course CG Honeydew is also great to have around, makes great foam. But then again so do all the others I just mentioned, with Shampoo plus being the least foam of the bunch.

Liquid wax and or spray wax. Megs 156 is VERY GOOD! Plus you can apply it in direct sunlight. Nice, slick, great shine. While you're looking at spray waxes grab the DG 951 (952 in gallon size). Boy is that a great product to have around. For that matter, you could just get some other DG items, compound, polish, etc and you'd be well rounded with the Megs as your cornerstones.

Also pickup a gallon of Megs 135 Synthetic Detailer, it'll be your friend! :)
Megs Glass Cleaner also is a multi dilution tool you'll love.

Another thing for shiny stuff is what you'll want to do under the hood, fender wells, even tires if you like. Megs Hyperdressing is another of those products that you can have at least 3 dilutions of.

You didn't mention a rinseless. Get ONR or ONRWW. So very many uses for that one. From a quick rinseless wash, to a QD spray in a pinch, clay lube, even a nice surfactant to add to your wash water with your other shampoos.

Speaking of clay lube, you might just skip clay for the most part and go directly to a Nanoskin pad for the DA. That is one SERIOUS time saver! You can do the entire vehicle in a matter of minutes. Of course you'll need another one for the small tight areas, or just use clay there.

Tire gel, boy that one can go in all directions. PERL can work on tires, so can Hyper Dressing as long as they have some time to dry. PERL looks very good given overnight to dry and it looks like it's actually become a part of the tire. Optibond is mucho primo nice for a smooth dry looking satin finish. Plus it's actually VERY affordable by the gallon. Then a little goes a long way so at the end of the day it may be the least expensive on a "per application" basis of anything out there!

Megs Endurance a lot of guys use for that glossy look but it's messy FOR SURE. Doesn't sling so bad, unless it's just caked on but it's really glossy and 'wet' looking. (that doesn't have to be a bad thing, sometimes it's exactly what you want). ;)

Then of course there are all the BF, WG, DP, Pinnacle that I'm sure you'll get plenty of input on. Their prices are all over the ball park, and IMHO they are all fairly pricy, one I think (BF) is $89.99. YIKES!!! :eek: It's have to be pretty freaking special to run more than TWICE what Optibond costs for my money. :dunno:
 
Not to hijack but why does it take so many pads to polish a car? I thought one to two pads would work to spread wax.

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Not to hijack but why does it take so many pads to polish a car? I thought one to two pads would work to spread wax.

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To spread a wax or sealant I'll use one. But for compounding and polishing foam pads get filled with product, clear coat and lose cutting and finishing ability eventually. Even when cleaned out after each panel, it's just safer, easier, and faster to use a new pad.
 
Juat ordered the XMT 360 saw good reviews. Is the Megs d151 an AIO?
Sorry, don't mean to hijack, just learning about many of the products. I have been using D105 & D205 combo, been working great and had good luck with UC.

Yea d151 in my opinion it's one of the best. Got a lot of cut depending on the pad u use. I love it

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Yea d151 in my opinion it's one of the best. Got a lot of cut depending on the pad u use. I love it

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akj, thanks for the info. I will add to my wish list and possibly add to next order.

Bill
 
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