What tool are you using?
Rotary, Flex 3401, PC?
Me?
GG, Rupes, Flex
I was thinking of it differently
You theoretically could have a Customer who will not pay $400-$500 for 95% paint correction but still wants a coating so he doesn't have to worry about waxing, car stays cleaner, etc
I don't know how often it happens, but I am sure it does
Absolutely! Although I find that without full correction the vehicle still will not look any better with a coating than with a good sealant. Those customers can either come back for sealant, but better yet I'll educate them on how to apply it themselves every couple months.
Something else about coatings with the hydrophobicity is that I've seen them look worse on vehicles that are not garaged.... something to do with the beading properties I expect and the crap/bad dirty beading sitting on the paint acting as millions of tiny magnifying glasses. I know on my daughters new KIA that's parked outside, under trees, with a new coating the first week we ended up removing it and putting sealant on it. (
It had really bad spotting both within and underneath the coating.)
On garaged vehicles however it doesn't seem to have quite that problem.
i think that's a good point.
obviously there are some detailers out there who will just never quote that low and can't cater to that sort of customer, but i think there are a ton of people who want exactly what you just described.
i think it's unfair for the detailers who turn those sorts of jobs down to then turn around and knock the detailers out there doing them and call them "hacks" and such. if there is a demand and the customer can get what they want, why care what others are doing? you turned the job away in the first place!
i also think that there are detailers out there who are doing details that pay the most attention to the higher verticals and flats...and don't go crazy on the lowers and bumpers, etc. if they are doing it to get the price down for the customer, then that is totally ok since the customer is happy with the compromise. if they are doing it to charge the customer the same as they normally would for a full correction but "hybridizing" the detail in the interest of saving time while getting over on the customer, that's asinine.
Oh I hear ya' there. I have two of them here in town. If you're price shopping..... they ARE NOT where you want to go. Won't make time for you, don't really miss that you're there. But lets not kid ourselves, *IF* you can make that business model work, good for you. But there are only so many exotics to go around. :dunno:
Yeah..... I'll do the whole thing right. Will I go back over the "higher verticals and flats" a bit extra? Maybe so, as in possibly with Menz 4000 (as in a 3-step) even though it didn't need it. But a I've said, I don't mind putting the time into it. Funny when you get old, the reputation is worth more than the time. :laughing:
My point was that not every customer can and will pay for a 2 step to full correction with a coating. Its easy to obtain close to perfection with a one step on a brand new car that wasnt touched.
I educate customers about coatings who care about their Hyundai or minivan just as much as the guy with a Vette coated with Finest, but cant afford that. So I perform a one step and coat the vehicle.It then makes care for them easier or me when they come back for maintanence details.
Remember...most customers dont know the difference between a swirl and a squirrel.
I just look at it differently though. I'll take a job from
any customer that
CARES about their vehicle and wants a detail that they just can't get anywhere else, and I mean
anywhere. I don't take junk, don't take stuff that's been trashed out inside.... but I will do a Toyota just as quick as a Tesla.
Take for instance a buddy of mine that I did a thread about back a couple years ago. Went and did his wifes Lexus all the while he was complaining how much time and trouble it was. He comes down yesterday and we had breakfast after he dropped her off at the airport. Then he goes out yesterday and buys a new GLK350 for her while she's out of town. I'd already told him he wasn't prepared for the cost of ownership behind the "three pointed star" (he's a first time owner). Remembering I used to be the towing service for 2 of he 3 dealers in Atlanta I've been there, done that, got the t-shirt. Sent him stuff yesterday about the proper way to prep, decon, a new vehicle. Even links on what is "rail dust" and why you need to be concerned about it.
Then today when he sent me the picture of it in the garage he said "she will be surprised". I said I would be STUPENDIOUSLY SURPRISED if he EVER did anything to properly protect the paint. To which he never replied.
Why? Because he'll never do anything, EVER!
Some people are like that. And those people you'll never get through to.
Getting back to taking care of customers.....
That may mean that I don't take jobs that some might, and I'm fine with that. I'll take jobs based on the customer, not the vehicle. While the really high priced guys take them solely based on the vehicle, even if the customer is a D-bag. :laughing: (
Makes for lots back patting and S&S threads that make people go ohhh and ahhhhh on the Internet.):laughing: Again, if that works for ya'.... carry on.
I also will take jobs and do every bit as good as guys that charge twice what I do, (
that also put 20, 30 or more hours into the same type project). I just like doing it, period.
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Every vehicle however is treated as if it were my own. If I'd spend all day doing mine.... you can bet I'll spend pretty much that much time on one that's paying for theirs to be done like mine.
I find it cathartic, even relaxing (
all the while painful) and it'll allow me to even skip my pain meds sometimes (
although I'll have to take a handful to try and sleep).
Just pop in my new RHA MA750i IEM's (that my daughter and hubby gave me for Christmas) and get my groove on for a few hours.
Given that.... I would not do it all day, every day, week in and week out.
Don't need that much work. Plus.... Just not built for it these days.
Considering I'm waiting for approval from my insurance company for another back surgery in 2 weeks, (SI fusion).
Or you could go with the potent combination of Modesta topped with Xpel Ultimate PPF topped with Modesta
Now THAT'S funny! :laughing:
