Progress Updates: 2013 Honda Accord Touring

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Here's a quick shot of the progress on my Accord. I'll continue to update this thread as I go.

The trunk lid and rear bumper are now, finally, 100% orange peel free!

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The bumper is sealed with BFWD, and the back of the trunk lid (around the Honda logo) is topped with BlackICE.
 
Subscribed. I am facing the same issue as u and keen to know your progress.
 
I don't have the fancy touring, but I noticed a lot of orange peel on my 13' blue LX. I just bought it a little over a month ago and haven't even had the time to undo the dealerships "detail job" thanks to the Navy lol. Regardless I'm looking forward to the updates!
 
Picture doesn't work (for me). How did you get rid of the orange peel?

Hmm, that's strange...

My previous orange peel removal work on other areas of the car was done with CarPro Denim Orange Peel Removal Pads and FG 400 on a DA polisher. While this worked just fine, it appeared that wet/damp sanding (with the appropriate materials) removed less clear.

On this part of the car I damp sanded using Meguiar's 1500 grit sanding discs, 3000 grit foam finishing discs, and 3M Trizact 5000 grit discs. Wherever possible, this was done by machine (GG3 or GG6).

I then cut it with Meguiar's M100 on, depending on the area, either a LC Twisted Wool Cutting Pad, Purple Foamed Wool pads, or their new Purple Foamed Wool thin pads on my FLEX PE-14 (which was also used for the remaining polishing steps).

For the first polishing step I used Menzerna SI 1500 on 5.5" and 4" orange CCS pads. For the smallest areas I used 3" cyan Hydrotech pads. Polishing was done at 1200 rpm (speed 3).

The second polishing step was done with Menzerna SF 4000 on either white CCS or tangerine Hydrotech pads at 1500 rpm (speed 4).

The final polishing step involved jeweling with Menzerna SF 4500 on either blue CCS or red Hydrotech pads.

The panels were then wiped with Menzerna Top Inspection and sealed with Blackfire Wet Diamond. Only the uppermost vertical portion of the trunk (with the Honda emblem) was topped with BlackICE. I wanted to do a comparison between the two.

Also, before damp sanding, the lower plastic portion of the bumper (between the tailpipes) was removed, disassembled, cleaned, prepped, and coated with CarPro CQuartz DLUX.

The exhaust tips were polished with PS21 Polishing Soap. They looked amazing at the time, but they could use another cleaning after the recent rain.
 
Very nice! I'd personally be a bit scared especially considering Hondas checkered past with clear coat failures.

BTW what happened to your Touring badge? *Edit* I'm assuming you debadged since all the badges except the Honda logo have been removed.
 
Very nice! I'd personally be a bit scared especially considering Hondas checkered past with clear coat failures.

I was initially a bit scared, but the way I saw it, I was so unhappy with the orange peel that I gave repainting serious consideration. I figured if I screwed up, I'd repaint it myself. If that didn't work, I'd have it professionally repainted. I plan on keeping this car and handing it down to my son eventually, and I want this to be a car I'm proud to own and that he will be as well.

BTW what happened to your Touring badge? *Edit* I'm assuming you debadged since all the badges except the Honda logo have been removed.

I actually took the Honda emblem off too and put it back on before sealing.

The Accord, V6, and Touring emblems were taken off because I repainted the entire area below the chrome strip, which includes the license plate area as well as below the tail lights.

The recessed area around the license plate had the worst orange peel and, according to my PTG, the thinnest paint at under 3 mils.

I knew sanding that area wasn't going to be an option. So, materials in hand, I decided to see how far I could get before striking through since both damp sanding (1500 grit) and prepping for paint (1000 grit) require sanding.

Surprisingly, I made it all the way through the sanding process to cutting with wool before strike through finally occurred at a little under 2 mils.

Even if I didn't strike through (which I knew I would), it would have been way to thin for even my liking.

That area has no sealant or wax on it, and won't for at least 90 days (I painted it two weeks ago).

I have had the new badges since before I started, but I'm going to wait before putting them back on... if I do at all.
 
Do u intend to add couple later of cc over like opti-coat since the factory cc has already been thinned?
 
now that you have gotten the orange peel out, you have to really be careful with using any abrasives on the paint. Curious to know how much clear coat you have left, but thats a little bit of a guess.

Kudos to you though for having the guts to do so. I would be sweet if i could do this on my car, but i know i would end up going through the clear. Oh well lol its not that bad, so i can live with it :) i can only imagine how bad urs must have been
 
Do u intend to add couple later of cc over like opti-coat since the factory cc has already been thinned?

Yes, I will eventually apply a coating when I'm finally finished. I'm surprised at just how little clear is actually being removed by damp sanding. By using a unigrit sanding disc vs a unigrit finishing disc, I'm really only removing the peaks of the clear. Finishing discs tend to remove material from both the peaks and valleys. In fact, Meguiar's states that the finishing discs are intended to preserve the texture of the paint.
 
now that you have gotten the orange peel out, you have to really be careful with using any abrasives on the paint. Curious to know how much clear coat you have left, but thats a little bit of a guess.

Kudos to you though for having the guts to do so. I would be sweet if i could do this on my car, but i know i would end up going through the clear. Oh well lol its not that bad, so i can live with it :) i can only imagine how bad urs must have been

I posted pics awhile back of the process I used on my trunk which included measurements, and in the end I only ended up removing half a mil. Went from 4.5 down to 4.

In others eyes, it probably wasn't all that bad. The important thing is it bothered me. Some people play golf, go hunting, or chase storms for fun. My hobby is paint correction. I'm sure people think I'm crazy, and maybe I am. The bottom line is, I enjoy it. :)
 
I actually had a neighbor come up to me tonight and tell me that they thought my car was the best looking car in the neighborhood. That sure made my day!!
 
What kind of cc u intend to apply. Drive into paint shop and coat?
 
What kind of cc u intend to apply. Drive into paint shop and coat?

While a body shop can just apply clear coat, it's more cost effective to have them lay down new paint while they're at it.
 
Completed more of the orange peel removal and its now nearly finished. Updated photos are below.

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Enjoy!
 
Looks great, I have a few questions for you, I started with the velvet pads but they didn't seem to touch my clear very much, so I ordered the denim pads, they will be here soon, plan to use either 205 or 105 I am just so tired of looking at the orange peel, I have a 2006 gto that is a garage queen now so I figure since it spends most time in the garage I my as well get rid of the orange peel so I am happier about the car what depth gauge do you have to measure paint depth/clear coat
 
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