Quarter size paint chip....questions

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Alright, well my sister backed her 05 Honda Ridgeline into an ice bank a couple weeks ago and says that there is a quarter size piece of paint missing. She also has some scratches around the same area from a girl that bumped her at work. I have yet to see the truck (she's coming by after work tonight), so I can't really tell how bad the damage is.

I did some searching on the forum and found a bunch of threads about feathersanding RIDS and touch up paint. But I'm not sure if I can use these techniques with such a large spot.

She wants me to touch up the area where the paint in missing. My concern is that since it's not just a tiny chip that your typical chip repair kit like Dr. Colorchip won't suffice to fix it. That I may actually need to sand the area down to the primer and respray it.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated as always!
 
I'll get some pics of it when she comes by so you guys have an idea of what I'm dealing with.
 
Alright so here are the pics of the damage I'm looking to fix...not sure if I'm going to be able to fix her bumper. Looks like the plastic bumper flexed and the paint came off all the way to the plastic. So any help with this would be greatly appreciated. The other scratches I can get out without a problem. Oh and it's bigger than a quarter...more like 2 or 3 quarters.
Bumper
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Drivers side rear quarter
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Can't really see the damage too well in this pic, but there is some paint transfer and minor scratches along the lip of the wheel well.
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Bump! Can't believe no one has commented on this. Could really use some help with this guys, so any suggestions on how to tackle this spot would be greatly appreciated!
 
I don't have as much experience with this as a lot of guys but I'll throw a guesss out. I have used Dr. Colorchip and I think with the right technique it could handle a spot like this as well. I'm not sure how well it would bond to a big plastic area like that but I con'r think it'll be a problem. With a big area like that you might sand down the damaged quarter size are with a tiny home made sanding disc and a drill. Then apply a layer of touchup paint and after it dries and cures wetsand it and go through the regular steps and layers of buiuding it up. I don't know much about re-spraying...
 
Thanks! That's what I was figuring, but didn't know that with the spider marks from the bumper flexing that if I started to sand the area that those marks might get worse. Or that more paint might come off.

If I can stay away from re-spraying the area I'd like to, but at the same time I'd like to get a decent repair on it. I realize that it probably won't match perfectly, but the closer the better.
 
SeaJay's said:
....didn't know that with the spider marks from the bumper flexing that if I started to sand the area that those marks might get worse. Or that more paint might come off.
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Yeah, I don't know either. Hopefully somebody that does know will read this and chime in.

As far as the color goes I think I remember reading from Dr. Colorchip that silvers and golds or maybe it was mettalic paints in particular dont blend as well. I will say the Chilli Pepper Red I ordered matched perfectly!
 
I've been reading that sometimes the metallic colors don't match perfectly. But close would be good. I may actually go to Honda and see if I can have them order me the paint in a small spray can if I have to respray the area. I'll wait to see if anyone else chimes in. If not, I'll be attempting this on my own! And I'll be sure to post on the forum about my out come!
 
Well I have this on 3 different forums and I haven't received any replies other than from CEE DOG here and another guy saying that it looks like it needs to be resprayed.

So, I think I'm going to tackle this one on my own. I'm going to see if I can find a small spray can of the color and go from there. Thankfully it's my sisters truck, so I can kind of experiment. Worse case, if I mess it up I'll take the bumper off and have the whole thing resprayed.

I'll make sure to start a thread of this when I do it!
 
I can give you full detailed advice on how to do it with an actual spray gun and use basecoat/clearcoat! I have worked at body shops and have painted alot of stuff myself and i currently attend a autobody collision repair school! I think i can help you! Just shoot me an email if you are interested!
 
SeaJay's said:
She wants me to touch up the area where the paint in missing. My concern is that since it's not just a tiny chip that your typical chip repair kit like Dr. Colorchip won't suffice to fix it. That I may actually need to sand the area down to the primer and respray it.
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It all depends on how good you want the repair to be. There's no way to *properly* touch up or spot repair that bumper damage. It will look like crap and will end up prematurely failing shortly down the road. The best way to fix this is to remove the bumper cover>sand down the entire repair area>flexible filler>sand>prime>sand entire bumper>apply color to repair area>clear entire cover>reinstall. Anything less will be an inferior repair.
 
SeaJay's said:
I've been reading that sometimes the metallic colors don't match perfectly. But close would be good. I may actually go to Honda and see if I can have them order me the paint in a small spray can if I have to respray the area. I'll wait to see if anyone else chimes in. If not, I'll be attempting this on my own! And I'll be sure to post on the forum about my out come!
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I would look into a local body shop or a paint store for the spray can, don't go to Honda.
 
That big chip...there's not much you can do there. If it were me....I would touch up paint it, then just softly wet sand it flush. You can then polish over it quickly. It will blend, and look ok...but not perfect. That's if you don't want to get it painted of course. Obviously, paint is the only REAL solution on that one.

The scratches on the rear panel IMO can be taken out pretty easily. I would try compound first. If you need to wet sand, just a little 2000, compound, swirl remover, seal..should do the trick. :dblthumb2:
 
David Fermani said:
It all depends on how good you want the repair to be. There's no way to *properly* touch up or spot repair that bumper damage. It will look like crap and will end up prematurely failing shortly down the road. The best way to fix this is to remove the bumper cover>sand down the entire repair area>flexible filler>sand>prime>sand entire bumper>apply color to repair area>clear entire cover>reinstall. Anything less will be an inferior repair.
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Agreed, that would be the only right way to do it.
 
I have experience with using expresspaint.com for a good color match on touch up paints. They will send you an 11 ounce rattle can too if that's what you want. I would take David Fermani's advice here and remove-repair-repaint-replace the entire bumper cover. Silver is one of the toughest colors to blend so I'd definitely respray the entire bumper.

I'd call around to see if there are any bumper specials going on at any local paint shops. Just me but I'd rather pay a few hundred than to try that repair on my own.
 
I'll just do a Readers Digest version.

Wife's Subaru has 'plastic' bumpers. She hit a chunk of rubber (alligator) from the truck in front of her. Nasty scraps and scratches (not the flaking you have).

Sanded the area(s) smooth, used a cheapo air brush with FACTORY touch-up paint. Yes, I used reducer etc to make a 'proper' mixture. Shot the color coat (more than one shot was needed). Wet sanded it smooth. Used a can of Dupli-Color Clear. Then, again wet sanded...then polish etc.

Perfect? No. Color match was right on, but matching metallic appearance was off a tad. I see it, but others have not.

Bill
 
Thanks for the advice guys.

I may tell her that she just needs to take it to a body shop if she wants it fixed correctly.

I obviously know that I'm not going to be able to get it to match perfectly and whatever repair I do is not going to be the "right" way. I think she really just doesn't want to spend the money on having the bumper repaired at a body shop. She's not really concerned with it matching perfectly, just that when you step back you don't notice it.

Her truck is a mess anyway. The front clip was obviously repainted at some point before she bought it and the clear is just peeling off of it. Pretty bad actually. Whoever did it obviously didn't do it right.
 
tuscarora dave said:
I have experience with using expresspaint.com for a good color match on touch up paints. They will send you an 11 ounce rattle can too if that's what you want. I would take David Fermani's advice here and remove-repair-repaint-replace the entire bumper cover. Silver is one of the toughest colors to blend so I'd definitely respray the entire bumper.

I'd call around to see if there are any bumper specials going on at any local paint shops. Just me but I'd rather pay a few hundred than to try that repair on my own.
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Thanks for that site Dave. I actually got everything I needed in one spot!

I'll keep everyone posted on this. It may turn out that I do have to repaint the whole bumper or take it to a body shop. But since it's my sisters truck I'm not too concerned. I'm pretty confident that I can make it look way better than it does right now. Even if the color doesn't match exactly it will be much better than a black spot on her silver bumper!
 
It is tough enough to fix smaller chips let alone the one on our sister's car. The true and tried method is to remove, sand and repaint bumper. It is almost impossible to feather in a fix given its location. There is also an additive mixed in with the paint to give it elasticity when applied to flexible body parts (i.e. bumpers).
 
GaDetailDoc said:
It is tough enough to fix smaller chips let alone the one on our sister's car. The true and tried method is to remove, sand and repaint bumper. It is almost impossible to feather in a fix given its location. There is also an additive mixed in with the paint to give it elasticity when applied to flexible body parts (i.e. bumpers) .
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Not always the case. Not all paint manufacturers require a Flex Additive with how flexible modern clearcoars are these days.
 
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