I finished two coats of Quartz UK v3 today and I am wondering if I let it sit too long. Or maybe I should have made more passes, to work it in? The temperature was ~80 low and humidity. About thirty seconds after I would wipe it on I would see the rainbow tint. I have read the product would flash from 1 to 3 minutes then removed the excess. It seemed to be harder to fully remove than I anticipated which makes me think I left it on too long. I used two mf towels a side, swapping out for fresh ones.
Quartz UK v Flash time?
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Mike Phillips
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Here's my experience, when you see the product start to flash then start wiping.
Flash means evaporation. I think some would like to think it means something more scientifice or even esoteric, but it doesn't. It means the carrying agents or solvents are drying or moving from liquid to gas and leaving the solids behind on the surface.
As these solids then start to dry or bond or set-up, they become a semi-permanent part of the surface.
When you go to wipe them off they seem to be sticky and that's because they are sticking or bonding to the surface.
Most if not all your established brands of coatings are the real deal and after application to the surface they bond instantly.
I know for some people, it's hard to wrap your brain around the science or technology that enables a product to make an instant bond to the surface, I'm like this. BUT - according to REAL AUTHENTIC CHEMISTS I know and trust, and have spoken to about this topic, this is what's happening.
So if the directions say to wipe off in 30 seconds. Start wiping in 30 seconds.
If the directions say to wipe off in 45 seconds. Start wiping in 45 seconds.
If the directions say to wipe off when you see the coating start to flash - start wiping.
If you wait to long the solids that are the actual coating are bonding to the paint and are NOT going to want to be MOVED AROUND easily and by the words moved around, I mean wiped-off.
Make sense?
Flash means evaporation. I think some would like to think it means something more scientifice or even esoteric, but it doesn't. It means the carrying agents or solvents are drying or moving from liquid to gas and leaving the solids behind on the surface.
As these solids then start to dry or bond or set-up, they become a semi-permanent part of the surface.
When you go to wipe them off they seem to be sticky and that's because they are sticking or bonding to the surface.
Most if not all your established brands of coatings are the real deal and after application to the surface they bond instantly.
I know for some people, it's hard to wrap your brain around the science or technology that enables a product to make an instant bond to the surface, I'm like this. BUT - according to REAL AUTHENTIC CHEMISTS I know and trust, and have spoken to about this topic, this is what's happening.
So if the directions say to wipe off in 30 seconds. Start wiping in 30 seconds.
If the directions say to wipe off in 45 seconds. Start wiping in 45 seconds.
If the directions say to wipe off when you see the coating start to flash - start wiping.
If you wait to long the solids that are the actual coating are bonding to the paint and are NOT going to want to be MOVED AROUND easily and by the words moved around, I mean wiped-off.
Make sense?
The Guz
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- Jun 17, 2013
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Per carpro's us site.
Tips:
If contamination exists, Iron X and clay your vehicle before polishing.
To gain the most from Cquartz your vehicle should have all surfaces 100% clean and paint polished to a high level
Use CarPro Reflect to achieve an incredible high gloss finish in less time with no fillers
Use CarPro Eraser to remove any oils leftover after polishing - This is critical to ensure durability of CQuartz
We recommend Coating Removal Towels: CarPro 2 Face (No Lint) 16" x 16" - Blue/ Orange 10 Pack, Microfiber Madness Slogger (16" x 16") or Edgeless White Polish Towel - 16" x 16"
We recommend Extra Suede Applicators if applying more than 1 coat - CarPro Suede MicroFiber Applicator 4"x4" 10 PACK
Finding the right time to "level" (wipe off) excess coating after it flashes:
Start with a single 2ft x 2ft test section to determine flash time before applying coating to entire vehicle. Flash time will vary depending on temperature, humidity, air movement, paint type, how thick it is applied, and more.
If coating is applied thick then the coating will take longer to flash. If applied thin it will flash faster. Hot temps will cause it to flash faster, Cold Temps will cause it to flash slower. Air movement will cause it to flash faster.
When it starts to flash you will see colors that will make the coating look like a rainbow or oil slick. You will see hints of blue, purple, red, and yellow.
Remove too soon and it will be oily with no grab to it when wiping. If you wipe off too soon it will not give the coating a chance to bond.
Remove too late and it becomes hard to remove.
The time to remove is when you feel just a little push back or "grab" against your towel but it is not difficult to remove and it is no longer oily. It may leave some streaks at first but with the second wipe of a fresh clean side of the towel, the streaks should wipe off and the paint should be nice and clear.
Lighting - Lighting is key to make sure you wipe off completely when you do wipe off. You don't want spot lighting like would use on paint correction but ambient lighting. Look at the paint from different angles to make sure none of the coating is missed. Spot lighting will "wash out" the high spots visually. Think of it like this: when you wipe off a sealant you have hours to go and check it again outside or in other lighting. In this case you need to pay attention as you go rather then wait an hour. Thorough removal of the coating is very necessary as any product left on the surface will harden and require polishing to remove soon after.
Cquartz UK 3.0 – Depending on the environment you are working in, it may start to become somewhat difficult to remove within the first 2-4 mins. It may feel tacky and or super grippy and it will smear and leave streaking. If that happens you will want to wait an additional 1 min and do a small test wipe to check. Continue checking in 1 min increments until coating wipes off clean and easy.
High spots - A high spot is excess coating that was not leveled (wiped off). Most of the time it will look like an application mark. If you discover to them within minutes then a bit more product will lift them. Otherwise you would use a dot of finishing polish such as CarPro Essence or Reflect and rub the high spot off, wipe it down with Eraser or your IPA of choice, and then re-coat that area and onto the area around it by about 6". Then start wiping off the perimeter immediately and slowly work inwards to feather it until you reach the area you are trying to re-coat at the appropriate time.
Directions: Use only in good ambient lighting
Precautions:
Do not apply in direct sun or on hot surface
Do not re-use 4" Suede applicators
Do not re-use the towels you used to buff off with on paint
Wear hand protection
Wear respiratory protection such as painters mask
Read "Tips" above before coating
Wrap a 4" mf Suede around the grey side of applicator block.
Shake CQuartz UK.
Slowly open bottle and drag one or two lines of product down the applicator.
Spread across paint in a criss cross pattern approximately 2 sq ft at a time depending on conditions.
Buff off as soon as it flashes (within 2-5 minutes depending - see tips above) using a CarPro No Lint Ultra Towel 16" x 16".
Be sure to remove all excess residue and only then do you move to the next section.
Switch out the 4" Suedes every 2+/- panels.
Additional coats may be applied with 45-60 minutes or wait until the following day if you are beyond 60 minutes. CarPro recommends 2 coats. Max Layer - 3 coats.
Apply Reload after final coat within 30- 60 mins. Wait until next day for Reload if you miss the 30-60 minute window or at least a minimum of 12 hrs.
Tips:
If contamination exists, Iron X and clay your vehicle before polishing.
To gain the most from Cquartz your vehicle should have all surfaces 100% clean and paint polished to a high level
Use CarPro Reflect to achieve an incredible high gloss finish in less time with no fillers
Use CarPro Eraser to remove any oils leftover after polishing - This is critical to ensure durability of CQuartz
We recommend Coating Removal Towels: CarPro 2 Face (No Lint) 16" x 16" - Blue/ Orange 10 Pack, Microfiber Madness Slogger (16" x 16") or Edgeless White Polish Towel - 16" x 16"
We recommend Extra Suede Applicators if applying more than 1 coat - CarPro Suede MicroFiber Applicator 4"x4" 10 PACK
Finding the right time to "level" (wipe off) excess coating after it flashes:
Start with a single 2ft x 2ft test section to determine flash time before applying coating to entire vehicle. Flash time will vary depending on temperature, humidity, air movement, paint type, how thick it is applied, and more.
If coating is applied thick then the coating will take longer to flash. If applied thin it will flash faster. Hot temps will cause it to flash faster, Cold Temps will cause it to flash slower. Air movement will cause it to flash faster.
When it starts to flash you will see colors that will make the coating look like a rainbow or oil slick. You will see hints of blue, purple, red, and yellow.
Remove too soon and it will be oily with no grab to it when wiping. If you wipe off too soon it will not give the coating a chance to bond.
Remove too late and it becomes hard to remove.
The time to remove is when you feel just a little push back or "grab" against your towel but it is not difficult to remove and it is no longer oily. It may leave some streaks at first but with the second wipe of a fresh clean side of the towel, the streaks should wipe off and the paint should be nice and clear.
Lighting - Lighting is key to make sure you wipe off completely when you do wipe off. You don't want spot lighting like would use on paint correction but ambient lighting. Look at the paint from different angles to make sure none of the coating is missed. Spot lighting will "wash out" the high spots visually. Think of it like this: when you wipe off a sealant you have hours to go and check it again outside or in other lighting. In this case you need to pay attention as you go rather then wait an hour. Thorough removal of the coating is very necessary as any product left on the surface will harden and require polishing to remove soon after.
Cquartz UK 3.0 – Depending on the environment you are working in, it may start to become somewhat difficult to remove within the first 2-4 mins. It may feel tacky and or super grippy and it will smear and leave streaking. If that happens you will want to wait an additional 1 min and do a small test wipe to check. Continue checking in 1 min increments until coating wipes off clean and easy.
High spots - A high spot is excess coating that was not leveled (wiped off). Most of the time it will look like an application mark. If you discover to them within minutes then a bit more product will lift them. Otherwise you would use a dot of finishing polish such as CarPro Essence or Reflect and rub the high spot off, wipe it down with Eraser or your IPA of choice, and then re-coat that area and onto the area around it by about 6". Then start wiping off the perimeter immediately and slowly work inwards to feather it until you reach the area you are trying to re-coat at the appropriate time.
Directions: Use only in good ambient lighting
Precautions:
Do not apply in direct sun or on hot surface
Do not re-use 4" Suede applicators
Do not re-use the towels you used to buff off with on paint
Wear hand protection
Wear respiratory protection such as painters mask
Read "Tips" above before coating
Wrap a 4" mf Suede around the grey side of applicator block.
Shake CQuartz UK.
Slowly open bottle and drag one or two lines of product down the applicator.
Spread across paint in a criss cross pattern approximately 2 sq ft at a time depending on conditions.
Buff off as soon as it flashes (within 2-5 minutes depending - see tips above) using a CarPro No Lint Ultra Towel 16" x 16".
Be sure to remove all excess residue and only then do you move to the next section.
Switch out the 4" Suedes every 2+/- panels.
Additional coats may be applied with 45-60 minutes or wait until the following day if you are beyond 60 minutes. CarPro recommends 2 coats. Max Layer - 3 coats.
Apply Reload after final coat within 30- 60 mins. Wait until next day for Reload if you miss the 30-60 minute window or at least a minimum of 12 hrs.
Coatingsarecrack
Well-known member
- Dec 9, 2018
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- 570
This is where I got confused. First part says it should be grippy to remove no longer oily.
Second part says if it feels grippy and smear. Your suppose to wait till it wipes off smooth and easy.
Are these for different coatings or are they contradicting themselves?
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