Question for BOSS Cream users - Correcting/Perfecting

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I recently added the Griot's BOSS Correcting Cream (+ the BOSS correcting pads), Perfecting Cream (+ matching pads), and the BOSS Microfiber pads (just in case) to my arsenal in preparation for doing full paint correction on a couple cars. The plan after your normal surface prep work was to go:
1: Correcting Cream with whichever pad the test spot deemed necessary
2: Perfecting Cream with Perfecting Pads
3: Follow with Liquid Gloss Poly Wax to be topped with the Premium Carnauba Paste Wax after the Poly Wax cures. (Yes, my name is John and I'm a Griot's-aholic...:buffing:)

My question is - Did I over buy and the Perfecting Cream is going to be redundant?

I keep reading how well people have had the Correcting Cream and even Fast Correcting Cream finish off, so I'm wondering if I'll need the extra step?

The cars in question are my oyster grey '06 A6 avant and my wife's '12 phantom black Q5. Both have had paintwork done if that brings up any input or pointers. I'll be using a GG 6" with 6.5" pads (and yes, I'm kicking myself for not converting to 5")

Thanks for any input!
 
I'm interested to hear the answer to this too......maybe Joe (next level detail) can chime in
 
I wouldn't say you overbought. It will all depend on how the paint system you're working on will respond. If the paint system you're working on finishes well with the correcting cream and using the perfecting cream added ZERO benefit then you don't have to use the perfecting cream. But there are "soft" paint systems out there that haze up pretty bad after the initial compounding. This is a perfect application of the perfecting cream.

Your oyster grey Audi may finish down well after the correcting cream thus not requiring you to use the perfecting cream. But your wife's phantom black Audi might haze up after using the correcting cream requiring you to finish it off with perfecting cream. Or vice-versa. Heck, there might be some "soft" paint systems that could potentially respond well with just perfecting cream alone. The possibilities are infinite. That's why Mike Phillips always advocates using a test spot to see what process/steps would work best for the paint you're working on before detailing the entire car.

Hope this helps.
 
Here's a perfect example on when you'll need the perfecting cream... Here's are some pictures Zach posted in his recent detail work.

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First picture shows the before condition.

The right side of the second picture shows the panel compounded using the fast correcting cream. This left some hazing as shown. Left side of the second picture is after he polished it off using Carpro Reflect. I think perfecting cream would achieve similar haze removal.
 
Absolutely helps. So it sounds like I may be doing multiple test spots on each car if I can identify where the paintwork has been done, or just be prepared to adjust on the fly as needed?

Full confession- I haven't really done test spots before. I haven't been reading on these forums for terribly long, and before that I hadn't heard of the practice. In the past I would just start mild and bump more aggressive as needed per problem area.
 
oneheadlite said:
Absolutely helps. So it sounds like I may be doing multiple test spots on each car if I can identify where the paintwork has been done, or just be prepared to adjust on the fly as needed?

Full confession- I haven't really done test spots before. I haven't been reading on these forums for terribly long, and before that I hadn't heard of the practice. In the past I would just start mild and bump more aggressive as needed per problem area.
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These articles by Mike Phillips will be a good read then:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/50162-how-do-test-spot.html
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...stions/24043-test-spot-story-behind-term.html
 
I'm gonna need to try the BOSS creams.

<sigh...anudder purchase...>
 
Your M5 article was one I read and had in mind regarding how well the Correcting Cream finished off, even with a Microfiber pad. I'm going to reread that whole thread again.

Thanks for all the links and pictures! Super helpful.:dblthumb2:

When I get a chance to dig in and start the process, I'll take my first stab at doing a write up with pictures.

Mike Honcho - You've gotta try them. I've only played with them briefly, but it's quickly apparent they're top notch. Any interest in a CC sample pack? Got a couple recently in an AG promo.
 
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I have both the Fast Correcting Creme and the Correcting creme. I have used the FCC more than the CC, but I do use the CC for an in-between step. The FCC is really a great compound. Not the most aggressive, but it works about 8 out of 10 times.

HUMP
 
The perfecting cream will only refine the finish even more after compounding.
 
If you have non-black metallic paint, you'll most likely be able to get away with just correcting cream if your paint is medium to hard. The perfecting cream may or may not make a noticeable difference. Always good to have, though.
 
Marc08EX said:
I wouldn't say you overbought. It will all depend on how the paint system you're working on will respond. If the paint system you're working on finishes well with the correcting cream and using the perfecting cream added ZERO benefit then you don't have to use the perfecting cream. But there are "soft" paint systems out there that haze up pretty bad after the initial compounding. This is a perfect application of the perfecting cream.

Your oyster grey Audi may finish down well after the correcting cream thus not requiring you to use the perfecting cream. But your wife's phantom black Audi might haze up after using the correcting cream requiring you to finish it off with perfecting cream. Or vice-versa. Heck, there might be some "soft" paint systems that could potentially respond well with just perfecting cream alone. The possibilities are infinite. That's why Mike Phillips always advocates using a test spot to see what process/steps would work best for the paint you're working on before detailing the entire car.

Hope this helps.
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Not much more can be added on top of what Marc already said. I typically find I can finish down perfectly on harder clears with the yellow pad and Correction Cream, but some softer ones do benefit from the Perfection Cream.
 
RaskyR1 said:
Not much more can be added on top of what Marc already said. I typically find I can finish down perfectly on harder clears with the yellow pad and Correction Cream, but some softer ones do benefit from the Perfection Cream.
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^^^^^ Listen to this guy.
 
oneheadlite said:
I recently added the Griot's BOSS Correcting Cream (+ the BOSS correcting pads), Perfecting Cream (+ matching pads), and the BOSS Microfiber pads (just in case) to my arsenal in preparation for doing full paint correction on a couple cars. The plan after your normal surface prep work was to go:
1: Correcting Cream with whichever pad the test spot deemed necessary
2: Perfecting Cream with Perfecting Pads
3: Follow with Liquid Gloss Poly Wax to be topped with the Premium Carnauba Paste Wax after the Poly Wax cures. (Yes, my name is John and I'm a Griot's-aholic...:buffing:)

My question is - Did I over buy and the Perfecting Cream is going to be redundant?

I keep reading how well people have had the Correcting Cream and even Fast Correcting Cream finish off, so I'm wondering if I'll need the extra step?

The cars in question are my oyster grey '06 A6 avant and my wife's '12 phantom black Q5. Both have had paintwork done if that brings up any input or pointers. I'll be using a GG 6" with 6.5" pads (and yes, I'm kicking myself for not converting to 5")

Thanks for any input!
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I am by no means an expert in the BOSS cream line as I've only been using them for about a month (+/-), and I too wondered the same thing prior to trying them out. Each situation is different, but here are the combinations that have worked for me:

- Correction with FCC, finish with Finishing Sealant (no Correcting Cream or Perfecting Cream used in this case)
- Correction with FCC, polish with CC and finish with Finishing Sealant (no Perfecting Cream used in this case)
- Polishing with CC and finishing with Finish Sealant (no FCC or Perfecting Cream used in this case)

... and in all cases you can apply Griot's Polywax on top.

Net-net I've yet to use Perfecting Cream (I don't even own any to be honest). Going from FCC to FS, FCC to CC to FS, or CC to FS has worked very well for me. But again bear in mind I have less than half a dozen details under my belt with BOSS creams. I may someday run into a situation where Perfecting Cream would be needed, but so far not yet. If you are going to skip the Finishing Sealant, I would suspect PC after FCC or CC would be a good idea.

Where seeking absolute perfection: FCC -> CC -> PC -> FS -> Polywax (5 steps) and 6 steps if you want to top with Carnauba.

As the folks @ Griot's point out, tons of combinations exist within the lineup of creams and pads.

Good luck!
ScottH
 
A lot of great replies - thanks all!

All in all I'm resting easier with having bought the Perfecting Cream/Pads - as mentioned above its nice to have different combinations available to get the best results with fewest steps. Crazy to look back at when I started 10 years ago and all I had was Machine Polish 3 and 1 orange pad... (Thank you Autogeek, I have seen the light..)

I don't have the Finishing Sealant as I was hoping to get longer lasting protection with the Poly Wax. That being said, maybe the Perfecting Cream will come into play. The test spot will determine it, but I'm thinking a theoretical flow might be:
CC on Boss MF pads --> PC on Boss Perfecting pads --> LGPW on Red pad --> PCPW (after LGPW cures) on Red Pad

John
 
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