Questions for a drying agent

To the OP: don’t worry about flavor of the month. Most past flavors are really good but they were just overhyped in the beginning and then stopped being talked about. Doesn’t mean they aren’t good.

I started this obsession in early 2017 and had like 10 years worth of past flavors to try for myself, the majority of which still look and behave great in 2017-2019.
 
I fly behind the curve on my product selection. I can't afford mistakes.
All the products I buy are old news, have had plenty of reviews and real world application results.
I would like to be a trend setter but simply can't afford it.

I don't use spray waxes anymore because they collect dust too easy

The best drying aid doesn't take a lot of lot of towel work.
 
If wanna stick with Griots, Rinseless wash and wax 15 to 1. Will work fine as according to AG:

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If want to add more shine maybe an oz or two of spray wax.


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I’ve got half a gallon of speedshine left so am trying mixing that with other products. I have found Ech20 mixed with a sio2 sealant (i use shine supply Clutch) as best drying aid I’ve tried so far


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acuRAS82 said:
Bead Maker would work for what you want.

Just a clarification: QDs can be used as drying aids, they just don’t leave any real protection added. If you don’t need a product to clean slight dust off or provide a very short-lived shine, then QDs may not be your best purchase choice. I actually have a ton of them and believe they give nicer short-lived shine than WW or RW QD dilutions, but that’s a very small gain even if my belief is true and I understand why they are discussed as outdated.

Spray waxes meant for drying aids will give that extra shine which will last much longer (weeks/months sometimes) and provide that extra sacrificial layer to likely increase your overall LSP longevity.

Note that your LSP may very likely never exhibit the exact same behaviors as it did prior to the spray wax, as many believe the topper spray mixes with the base coat in some capacity... but likely not something you will notice as a detriment unless you’re really, really trying to see the base coat behavior due to love for it. For the time after the spray wax is applied and still strong, the water behavior and look may significantly change. The top layer usually displays the behaviors until it wears off.

Either way, spray waxes look great and it’s typically a pleasure to have them on top.
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Thank for that info on mixing. This was something that in my mind wasn't really making sense. Like using spray wax it's gonna mix with my Collinite. Just hope it won't cause negatives to it.

Reading your post I agree, a spray wax type thing might be better. Top 2 picks are CG V07 or P&S beadmaker. I realize having wax on door jamb paint ain't a bad idea either and I'm sure it can wipe of dust or something from the jams fine?
 
TheMidnightNarwhal said:
Thank for that info on mixing. This was something that in my mind wasn't really making sense. Like using spray wax it's gonna mix with my Collinite. Just hope it won't cause negatives to it.

Reading your post I agree, a spray wax type thing might be better. Top 2 picks are CG V07 or P&S beadmaker. I realize having wax on door jamb paint ain't a bad idea either and I'm sure it can wipe of dust or something from the jams fine?
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Wash or use waterless before wiping down jams. Spray waxes usually have no surfactants to clean/encapsulate the dirt so you’ll be causing marring


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Coatingsarecrack said:
Wash or use waterless before wiping down jams. Spray waxes usually have no surfactants to clean/encapsulate the dirt so you’ll be causing marring


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Ok then I'll grab the V07 that way it works as a AIO and don't need to buy more products! Thanks everyone who chimed in!
 
I haven't tried any of these other products mentioned in the replies. I have been very happy with Wolfgang Uber mixed 3/4 oz of concentrate per 32 oz of distilled water. It is a great waterless wash/detail spray/drying aid. I can't say that it leaves any protection behind but it does extend the life of the sealant. Wolfgang DGPS lasted 8 months on my truck.
 
My new favorite is Pinn Si02 spray. I can't say i use it as a "drying assist" but love it as a QD after a good dry. Plus it's versatility on different LSP's.
 
spazzz said:
If I was to pick one(that I have used) for simple and semi durable it would be Opti-seal.
But since then I have swayed to ECH20/Reload for a pretty dazzling look and Sonax BSD for durability.

Nothing that I have used is as easy as Opti-seal, not even Hyper-seal.

But for starts you will have to let this thread run to get some more ideas.
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How are you using the Ech20/Reload combo with the BSD? Id assume you're alternating them?
 
MrOneEyedBoh said:
How are you using the Ech20/Reload combo with the BSD? Id assume you're alternating them?
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I am sorry that wasn't very clear. One or the other I guess.

My garage car has the ECH20/Reload and the daily gets the BSD.
Yesterday when drying I primed the towel with PNS and BSD.
 
spazzz said:
I am sorry that wasn't very clear. One or the other I guess.

My garage car has the ECH20/Reload and the daily gets the BSD.
Yesterday when drying I primed the towel with PNS and BSD.
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Why do you prefer BSD over the mix on each vehicle respectively
 
MrOneEyedBoh said:
Why do you prefer BSD over the mix on each vehicle respectively
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At this moment I just feel BSD might be the answer for my winter drying aid on a car outside 24/7. After 2 months of snow/salt and sand there wasn't much of a visible road film after an initial d114 pre rinse, then power rinse. The black car was fairly grey looking before

On the other hand my daughters car that had ECH20/Reload over Essence Plus seemed to hold up for 2 months being outside 24/7

Other than that the 24/7 car has Collinite845 on it so I felt the BSD would fit better. I did try ECH20/Reload over the 845 during this winter but BSD works better for me.
The garage car has Glosscoat for now so the coating SiO2 products are what I use.
 
If you want to use a product as a drying aid, the difference will be in the amount of protection and lubricity each product has. Here is a quick chart to differentiate all off the products:

Rinseless wash (ex. ONR 256:1) has low lubricity, low gloss enhancement and low protection
Waterless wash (ex. Ech2O) has high lubricity, low gloss enhancement and low protection
Quick detailers (ex. Last Touch) has medium lubricity, high gloss enhancement and low protection
Quick waxes (ex. D156) has medium lubricity, high gloss enhancement and low protection
Spray waxes have high lubricity, medium gloss enhancement and medium protection

Any of them can be used as a drying aid, except perhaps rinseless washes that are not really designed for that. It depends what factors are most important to you. Personally, I always use either a quick wax or a quick detailer. Spray waxes would be a bit better but they require more buffing time and they don't give has good a gloss to the paint.

I don't think you can go wrong with any of these products, it's just a matter or preference.
 
Calendyr said:
Here is a quick chart to differentiate all off the products:


Waterless wash (ex. Ech2O) has high lubricity, low gloss enhancement and low protection
Quick detailers (ex. Last Touch) has medium lubricity, high gloss enhancement and low protection
Quick waxes (ex. D156) has medium lubricity, high gloss enhancement and low protection
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Who made this chart and where is it?
I’m willing to back Megs Last Touch as much as anyone.. Even going as far as saying that it’s as capable as any waterless wash out there, but to say it produces more gloss than Carpro Ech2o? Cmon now lets keep it real there’s no way that’s true.

And I wouldn’t rate D156’s protection as “low”
Here’s the 1st rinse on a high mileage black vehicle that’s been living outside for the past month through several rainstorms. The whole vehicle was beading this strong. I’d say that’s pretty impressive.

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The beading was just as good after washing with Megs Hyper Wash.
 
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