Review - Blackfire Pro Detailers Choice Foam Booster

[Eldorado2k]

I'm serious, it would be a dealbreaker if I had to add 2oz. to every wash vs. 2oz. to a brand new gallon of car wash soap. I still find it a bit hard to imagine 2 oz. of this being able to dilute evenly into a whole closed gallon of car wash with how thick car wash soap tends to be... On second thought, I don't really have any soaps that suck at foam in the bucket. I washed my car with Megs Shampoo Plus this morning and there's plenty of suds.

 

[KirkH]

Thanks.



That depends on how well the soap foams on it's own. One has to find that sweet spot for their personal use.



Lol



Well why not?

See the response from Audios S6. He gets the idea.



Exactly. So far the only one that has gotten the idea of this product :dblthumb2:.

OK, first off the line is called Blackfire PRO Detailer's Choice.

I am a PRO, I make my living cleaning vehicles.

This product only adds to my PRO costs. How does this help my bottom line?

Again, the line is called Blackfire PRO Detailer's Choice.

I have very hard water. My foam is thick as shaving cream.

 

[Angus]

Alright lets keep this on topic about the product and not the label.

Haha

 

[fightnews]

Quik question: The directions seem to indicate that 2oz. should be added into a full gallon of undiluted car wash soap, or am I wrong?

You added 2oz. into the wash bucket with what I'm guessing was around 1.5oz. of car soap + 3 gallons of water? Wouldn't that be way too much of the Blackfire Foam Booster?

Not sure why the guz or anyone else didnt respond to this but it clearly does say to add 2oz to a gallon of car shampoo. Its not 2oz to the wash bucket. It's 2oz to a gallon of soap.

I dont understand how you are supposed to mix it after adding it to a gallon of car soap?

 

[KirkH]

Not sure why the guz or anyone else didnt respond to this but it clearly does say to add 2oz to a gallon of car shampoo. Its not 2oz to the wash bucket. It's 2oz to a gallon of soap.

I dont understand how you are supposed to mix it after adding it to a gallon of car soap?

That is a huge difference.

 

[The Guz]

Who knew this new product line would stir up so much drama :dunno:

I'm serious, it would be a dealbreaker if I had to add 2oz. to every wash vs. 2oz. to a brand new gallon of car wash soap. I still find it a bit hard to imagine 2 oz. of this being able to dilute evenly into a whole closed gallon of car wash with how thick car wash soap tends to be... On second thought, I don't really have any soaps that suck at foam in the bucket. I washed my car with Megs Shampoo Plus this morning and there's plenty of suds.

I did not take your comment seriously. Why? Because I know this would not fit in your wheel house. You have found what works for you so keep using that. D111 is pretty good but tends to lose it's suds fairly quickly. I haven't purchased it after the first gallon I used. Anyway this is not going to be a product for everyone.

Not sure why the guz or anyone else didnt respond to this but it clearly does say to add 2oz to a gallon of car shampoo. Its not 2oz to the wash bucket. It's 2oz to a gallon of soap.

I dont understand how you are supposed to mix it after adding it to a gallon of car soap?

I am going to say this, I encourage you to both buy some and try it out. Those of us who are sent products to test ahead of there release are flying blind. The directions could be better explained. Part of the fun in testing is finding out which ratios work :xyxthumbs:.

OK, first off the line is called Blackfire PRO Detailer's Choice.

I am a PRO, I make my living cleaning vehicles.

This product only adds to my PRO costs. How does this help my bottom line?

Again, the line is called Blackfire PRO Detailer's Choice.

I have very hard water. My foam is thick as shaving cream.

Well I don't know how to answer you on the name choice for the product line. You will have to take that up with Meghan and company. As I mentioned up above this is not going to be for everyone. Some may see it as a gimmick type product. But Audios pretty much nailed it.

There is a smart man on this forum who states "Find what you like and use it often - Mike Phillips". I understand you have found what works for you so keep doing that.

I would encourage you to try it out as well and see if you like it. Maybe you would get thicker foam than what you currently use.

 

[KirkH]

2 oz per gallon of undiluted car shampoo is reasonable. I might try that.

 

[KirkH]

Well I don't know how to answer you on the name choice for the product line. You will have to take that up with Meghan and company. As I mentioned up above this is not going to be for everyone. Some may see it as a gimmick type product. But Audios pretty much nailed it.

There is a smart man on this forum who states "Find what you like and use it often - Mike Phillips". I understand you have found what works for you so keep doing that.

I would encourage you to try it out as well and see if you like it. Maybe you would get thicker foam than what you currently use.

Yes I am not trying to be argumentative, I am just trying to figure out this product line. I don't see foam enhancer and $60 APC being PRO products. Maybe they should have named it Enthusiast.

 

[Eldorado2k]

Who knew this new product line would stir up so much drama :dunno:



I did not take your comment seriously. Why? Because I know this would not fit in your wheel house. You have found what works for you so keep using that. D111 is pretty good but tends to lose it's suds fairly quickly. I haven't purchased it after the first gallon I used. Anyway this is not going to be a product for everyone.

I'm not sure why you would describe any of these posts as drama... I'm legit interested in this product. 1 major drawback for me however is that I usually use those short 3.5 gallon buckets + 11 mitts [with 2 more Smoothie Mitts coming in the mail] so my bucket tends to fill up with suds very very fast as it is due to the limited space.

What I usually do is add soap, spray with shower setting for a moment, add my mitts, then just a few more seconds of water and suds are to the top... Then I begin cleaning the wheels & tires. By the time I'm done the suds calm down a bit and I can top my bucket off with another jet of water and begin washing.

As for me being strictly set on a certain method, that's not entirely true... Like I said just this morning I decided to wash my car with Meguiars Shampoo Plus instead of Carpro Reset.. Why? Because it's great soap and to be honest there's constant talk about using certain kinds of soap and bla bla bla... I remember the days when I used Megs Gold Class for 15+ yrs. and I don't recall having a single problem worth complaining about. That's why this morning I decided to hell with it, I'm using whatever soap I feel like using! Lol.

Btw, it's suds up so good that I went ahead and washed my brothers car real quik with the same bucket of suds. I've never ever experienced any soap go weak and somehow lose its suds in the bucket. Must be some super cheapo soap for that to happen. I could've kept going with the same suds...

 

[SWETM]

Read the direction of use in the last part of the quote Guz imbedded in the first post.
I can see a purpose for it in the soaps that have sio2 in them. The most of them is low on the suds and if it adds lubrication also maybe some soap could benefit from it too. I have a prewash product that I want a little more foam in it. Cause it runs of to fast to get enough cleaning. I do mix in some other prewash soap in it to make it more foaming and clinging. That soap I mix in does'nt clean as well that the low sudsing do. So for that it can be a purpose for me. But in the end it's if you have a purpose for it as a pro or a average Joe. Buy it if you have and don't if you are not.

Thanks for the rewiew Guz.

 

[VETLAG72]

Alright lets keep this on topic about the product and not the label.

For the record my initial post was serious, I know Autogeek will be watching your review thread. I was posting it to be helpful. Having a minor misprint in the warnings is opening the door for a ridiculous claim of injury. I'm a QA Manager and deal with labeling regulations daily. After that there was some late night joking that ended 9 hours before your post scolding us. I didn't realize there was no joking on this forum...

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[The Guz]

Read the direction of use in the last part of the quote Guz imbedded in the first post.
I can see a purpose for it in the soaps that have sio2 in them. The most of them is low on the suds and if it adds lubrication also maybe some soap could benefit from it too. I have a prewash product that I want a little more foam in it. Cause it runs of to fast to get enough cleaning. I do mix in some other prewash soap in it to make it more foaming and clinging. That soap I mix in does'nt clean as well that the low sudsing do. So for that it can be a purpose for me. But in the end it's if you have a purpose for it as a pro or a average Joe. Buy it if you have and don't if you are not.

Thanks for the rewiew Guz.

Thanks for taking the time to read it.

 

[Dmb5450]

Why isn’t this product added to all car soaps in the factory so they all foam as much as possible?


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[The Guz]

Straight from the product page.

Directions for use: To transform any standard car wash into a foaming shampoo, simply add Foam Booster to your car wash bottle or to the car wash shampoo already in your foam cannon, foam gun, or wash bucket for an increased amount of suds produced. BLACKFIRE Foam Booster is extremely concentrated – a little goes a long way!

 

[Eldorado2k]

Straight from the product page.

Directions for use: To transform any standard car wash into a foaming shampoo, simply add Foam Booster to your car wash bottle or to the car wash shampoo already in your foam cannon, foam gun, or wash bucket for an increased amount of suds produced. BLACKFIRE Foam Booster is extremely concentrated – a little goes a long way!

Could that video be any more vague? It's "super concentrated" yet they don't take a moment to mention the proper dilution ratios... What's going on?

 

[Audios S6]

Why isn’t this product added to all car soaps in the factory so they all foam as much as possible?


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Not everyone agrees that foam is a good thing. Some believe that it's reducing contact with the paint and that a foamless solution with high lubricity will better wet the surface and provide safer cleaning. While some believe the foam will help suspend particles away from the paint.

Another reason may be that high foaming soaps fill your bucket with suds rather than water. You can't see how dirty your water is getting.

Some soaps are made very cheap and don't add as much of a foaming ingredient.

These are just my thoughts off-the-cuff. I think the bottom line is that not all car soaps are formulated with the same criteria and as a result you get very different soaps.

 

[The Guz]

Used it again today with just the foam gun.

2 oz's of foam booster with 2oz's of a shampoo not sold through Autogeek. Similar to Reset and Hyper Wash in that it leaves nothing behind.

Another with 1 oz of foam booster and 2 oz's of the dame shampoo. Sonax CC36 not letting it stick to the paint.

Seems to be working very well with any soap thus far that are not high foamers.

 

[Eldorado2k]

Used it again today with just the foam gun.

2 oz's of foam booster with 2oz's of a shampoo not sold through Autogeek. Similar to Reset and Hyper Wash in that it leaves nothing behind.

Another with 1 oz of foam booster and 2 oz's of the dame shampoo. Sonax CC36 not letting it stick to the paint.

Seems to be working very well with any soap thus far that are not high foamers.

You say that soap isn't a high foamer on its own... What would happen if you were to go with 2oz. of it, but instead of using 2oz. of the foam booster you just add 2 more oz. of the same soap, making for a total of 4oz. Would it near the results of the 2 & 2 combo?

I ask this assuming you would normally just do a total of 2oz. if you didn't have the foam booster? Or what would your normL procedure be?

 

[Eldorado2k]

I guess I'm wondering if this is about as unnecessary as the Pad Cleaner that's recently been reviewed... Checking out that review and I can't help but think to myself "the same thing can be accomplished with plain running water from the sink and no brush"

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

PBMG - My OCD eye caught a typo that you may want to fix... Warnings 1 and 2 both say "May cause eye irritation"

LOL, I know I know, who reads the warnings ha ha

Good eye...


I wasn't part of the review team for Blackfire labels but I know it's easy to make mistakes. Heck... I make them every day.

I also know from my experience writing label copy for Meguiar's, that even after carefully writing all the label copy, front, back, directions, marketing and cautions, (you meet with the Chemist to write the cautions and directions), I print out the final copy for each label on a single page and then it would travel around to maybe 20 people for their review and input. Even after this many people would read label copy there would still be mistakes.

It happens.


Thanks for pointing this out, I'll send the link to this thread to management.