Review: BlackFire Wet Diamond Sealant
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It does have a bubble gum scent to it! kind of like a mint bubble gum. Either way, its my favorite sealant! the slickness is very similar to a wax slickness. Also, in my opinion, it also has that warm look like a nuba. Witch is very good in my opinion. :xyxthumbs:
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These gold pads you speak of, are they made/sold by BlackFire? I didn't see them on Autopia.
Rei86
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Some say this is the same as the gold one that BlackFire used to sell
Red UltraSoft CCS Euro Foam Hand Polish Applicator
But yeah no one else ATM carries that oval one in gold
CEE DOG, you said that you got sweating from it the next day and then it went away. Did the seating from the product disappear on its own, or did you have to do a quick detail or wash to get rid of it. On some products I have used, I have gotten this too but it susually takes an entire wash to get rid of the initial steaking and weating. Do you think it was from over application or not letting the product cure enough?
I know that BFWD is know well for its ease of application and looks, but how durable is it from your findings in the Florida heat and humidity? I am realy wanting to use the BFWD, but I want it to be able to last a couple months if possible
I know that BFWD is know well for its ease of application and looks, but how durable is it from your findings in the Florida heat and humidity? I am realy wanting to use the BFWD, but I want it to be able to last a couple months if possible
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I'm not Corey, but you should easily get 2 months out of Blackfire. Are you also in Florida?
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It was no longer visible after a couple days without me washing it. I don't think it was because of over application or because of not letting it cure enough. Having said that these days I leave just about any sealant on for 1 hr minimum if I can. Some people said I had a bit of dust because of over application but just recently I used BFWD on the hood of my sky and I put it on as thin as humanly or robotically possible. I still got a pinch of dust. It doesn't matter to me (just saying) 3 seconds of the master blaster or an air compressor and the dust is gone.
As far as durability Ron is right on. No question you are going to get at least a couple months out of it if properly prepped and applied. I would guess 3-6 depending on conditions.
BFWD is one of the best sealants I have used. It does make you think that your car is coated with a wax instead of a sealant because of the depth and glow of your paint after polishing and applying the sealant. I'd like to try topping it with a wax such as soveran or Blackfire, so far I used Pete's 53 and got good results. The only sealant that I have used that has come close in longevity is Wolfgang. AG has a winner for sure. Thanks for the great review.
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My pleasure :dblthumb2:
That depends on the conditions. More than likely any moisture within 5-6 hours is going to reduce durability but you will get some length of protection. I have not tested it's durability with moisture being introduced so can't say how big of a difference it makes. In my experience with polymer sealants in general introducing moisture within that time frame significantly reduces there durability. If I had to throw a number at you (and keep in mind there are a thousand variables so this number doesn't mean much). I would say durability is reduced by close to 65% in the time frame you mention. Keep in mind that's based on only a couple moisture tests I've done and it can all change based on the conditions of humidity and temperature as well as wind speed and sunshine which affect how fast the sealant cures.
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I'm betting with the current temps (it must be cold up there) it takes longer to be in the clear but that's just a guess. How was it this AM?
Will you post your durability results in this thread and include what the temperature and cloudiness was at application?
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Durability...? lol, i''ll probably throw some souveran on it today and tomorrow Wolfgang Sealant Spritz then Wednesday some V7...well you get the idea. But for you my friend I can leave trunk lid alone for a month or so.
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Hi Alex, it is not normal for most sealants. BFWD is the only sealant I have seen it with but it's very minimal in comparison to a carnauba wax with very high carnauba content. With BFWD it really is a non issue. It is minimal if present at all dependent on the environment. If it appears at all it does not last long.
With waxes of HIGH carnauba content it can be incredible nasty, irritating, last a very long time and make you wonder why anyone pays a lot of money for an expensive wax that has these issues. Again though some environments don't have the issue.
For instance, I used Vintage which is a high content Nuba on my Sky before Detailfest. I applied it the day before driving down there. The next morning on my way down the car had sun on it for about 30 minutes before I got to AG. By the time I got out of the car my worst fears were realized and the whole car had a haze over it as if it had not been buffed. I buffed the sweating off repeatedly that day. At times I was buffing it every ten minutes! The next day it was a little better but still some. Even weeks and I think a month later after it had been washed multiple times if I pulled it into the sun I would see it haze up in places.
In contrast I have a couple buddies up in Canada who haven't seen it sweat much if at all. Humidity, etc plays a part.
I used swissvax concorso which also has high content and I had heard people complain. Well, I applied it and buffed it off. This time (as recommended by SV) I parked it in the sun for a couple hours immediately afterwards. It never sweated on me once. So it can be hit and miss based on a lot of factors.
Summary:
It is normal for high content nubas.
It is not normal for most waxes or for sealants.
With waxes of HIGH carnauba content it can be incredible nasty, irritating, last a very long time and make you wonder why anyone pays a lot of money for an expensive wax that has these issues. Again though some environments don't have the issue.
For instance, I used Vintage which is a high content Nuba on my Sky before Detailfest. I applied it the day before driving down there. The next morning on my way down the car had sun on it for about 30 minutes before I got to AG. By the time I got out of the car my worst fears were realized and the whole car had a haze over it as if it had not been buffed. I buffed the sweating off repeatedly that day. At times I was buffing it every ten minutes! The next day it was a little better but still some. Even weeks and I think a month later after it had been washed multiple times if I pulled it into the sun I would see it haze up in places.
In contrast I have a couple buddies up in Canada who haven't seen it sweat much if at all. Humidity, etc plays a part.
I used swissvax concorso which also has high content and I had heard people complain. Well, I applied it and buffed it off. This time (as recommended by SV) I parked it in the sun for a couple hours immediately afterwards. It never sweated on me once. So it can be hit and miss based on a lot of factors.
Summary:
It is normal for high content nubas.
It is not normal for most waxes or for sealants.