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This pad was given out at Detail Fest. Thanks Eric! Dubbin1 (Dwayne) requested a review on this pad so here it is. I had been waiting to get a couple more to do a more comprehensive review but I got set up to do it this weekend and decided to review it side by side with a Flat Grey LC finishing pad. Both pads using Menz. 85RD.
See "Method of Application and noted Observations" for details.
Product(s) used previously:
1.-Flat Grey LC Finishing Pad
Initial Product Observations:
1.- Consistency: A lot harder then the Grey LC pad but softer then the tangerine HT pad (Density above that of the tangerine pad)
2.- Color: Crimson
3.- Size: 6.5" O.D. (Other sizes coming soon)
4.- Regular Price: $11.99
5.-Manufacturer: Lake Country
6.-Made in: Hartland, WI. USA
Additional products used for prep, during application, or removal:
1.- (2) polish removal towels
2.- (2) buffing towels
3.- (1) spritz bottle of 50/50 H20/ALC.
4.- (1) spritz bottle of water with a dash of ONR
5.- M105
6.- Menz 85RD
7.- (1) HT cyan pad, (1) HT tangerine pad, (1) Flat LC grey pad
8.- PPE (Eye and Respiratory protection
9.- Vinyl gloves
10.-Pad brush
11.-DP pad cleaning powder
12.-Clay
13.-Tape
14.-Flex 3401
Method of Prep:
1.- Clayed the 1/2 of the roof where test was to be performed
2.- Taped area including tape for labeling which pad and product used
3.- Used M105 with Cyan HT pad to remove the majority of swirls
Method of Application and noted Observations:
I polished this car a couple months ago but left this panel out at the time so it was the perfect spot to do a test on. I taped off my test section and as mentioned polished with M105 to remove the majority of swirls. Some which were really deep I did not take out completely. I have to mention this was the first time using 105 and it really works as advertised! Really cuts quick and leaves an impressive finish for such cutting action. I came back with 105 again on a tangerine pad but after looking at the pictures just now I think this was an error. I should have used the 205 or my WTSR with the tangerine pad. I saw no marring whatsoever after my tangerine pad and 105 but some of my pictures seem to show that there is...
I've got to look again tommorrow in the sun. I just didn't see that at all out there.
Anyway, after polishing the area I came back divided a large section into (2) so I could label one side Crimson and the other Grey. Then using the crimson pad with 85RD on my Flex I polished one section. On speed 6 I went (4) passes with good pressure and then lightened up with (4) additional passes. Usually the 85RD makes it those 8 passes with room to spare but today it seemed to dry out a bit faster and I probably pushed it just a bit. I then cleaned the pad with my brush and finished the rest of that half of the roof (except for the area which was to receive the grey pad. Next I removed the pad and hit it with some XMT pad cleaner before dropping it in my pre-filled DP cleaning bucket. After removing the polish remnants from the roof I placed the LC flat grey finishing pad on my Flex and finished the other section with the same method. After cleaning up and removing the tape (but not the labels) I pulled the car out from beneath the canopy to snap some pictures. I snapped a whole lot of them trying to get an angle but that bad sun was hiding behind the camera no matter where I went. I cleaned up while waiting for the sun to move a bit for more pictures. While cleaning the pads I found that the Crimson pad is much more difficult to clean then the rest of the pads used here (including the other HT pads). While it is softer then the other HT pads it seems to be much more dense. If you squeeze it under water and let it absorb the water it takes longer then normal to regain its shape. It looks a bit like memory foam just for a second and then regains shape. Same goes for squeezing it out. It is more difficult to squeeze then the other 3 types of pads I used here. About 30 minutes later I was able to get a few shots where the sun had moved just enough out of the way. Please see the remainder of the review after the pictures.
Products
Before (Uh-Oh, that's not pretty) Should have pulled it into the sun for this before shot
Luke, I am your father
Crimson HT Finishing Pad
Sun refusing to go where I tell it to
Crimson pad test area
Grey pad test area
Crimson pad test area
Grey pad test area
Pros:
1.- Leaves a finish equivalent to the grey LC flat pad
2.- Absorbs less product
3.- Easier to see if there is any dirt on the pad (unless it's crimson colored dirt
)
Cons:
1.- More difficult to clean then the Grey pad
???
1.- Eric told me it had more cut then a grey finishing pad which may be but I did not observe that at this time
2.- I have to play around with this some more.
3.- Autogeek describes this product as "simply an applicator" with no cut while Eric of Lake Country told me that this pad has some cut but finishes as well as the grey pad. Did the pad change between then and now?
Conclusion, Additional Observations and/or Summary:
Based on my experience with the Crimson Hydro Tech Foam Pad I will not purchase more of them for the time being . Based on my methods I don't believe I will gain an advantage switching to this pad for finishing. Because I have plenty of grey finishing pads I don't need to make a decision right now as I believe the finishing quality is equal.. After playing with it some more I may switch to this pad for finishing but as of now that is not the case.
Here is a little of the manufacturer info from Autogeek:
The crimson foam is designed to apply waxes, glazes, and sealants in flawless, even coats without causing swirls. The soft foam has no cutting ability. It simply serves as an applicator pad. Since the crimson pad is made of Hydro-Tech foam, it does not soak up liquid waxes and paint sealants like some finishing pads can. You'll be able to cover more paint with less product. The crimson pad is a great choice to apply Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0.
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And the link: http://www.autogeek.net/lc-hydro-tech-foam-pads.htmlhttp://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.htmlhttp://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-bond-tire-gel-32oz.htmlhttp://www.autogeek.net/1z-einszett-leather-care.html
See "Method of Application and noted Observations" for details.
Product(s) used previously:
1.-Flat Grey LC Finishing Pad
Initial Product Observations:
1.- Consistency: A lot harder then the Grey LC pad but softer then the tangerine HT pad (Density above that of the tangerine pad)
2.- Color: Crimson
3.- Size: 6.5" O.D. (Other sizes coming soon)
4.- Regular Price: $11.99
5.-Manufacturer: Lake Country
6.-Made in: Hartland, WI. USA
Additional products used for prep, during application, or removal:
1.- (2) polish removal towels
2.- (2) buffing towels
3.- (1) spritz bottle of 50/50 H20/ALC.
4.- (1) spritz bottle of water with a dash of ONR
5.- M105
6.- Menz 85RD
7.- (1) HT cyan pad, (1) HT tangerine pad, (1) Flat LC grey pad
8.- PPE (Eye and Respiratory protection
9.- Vinyl gloves
10.-Pad brush
11.-DP pad cleaning powder
12.-Clay
13.-Tape
14.-Flex 3401
Method of Prep:
1.- Clayed the 1/2 of the roof where test was to be performed
2.- Taped area including tape for labeling which pad and product used
3.- Used M105 with Cyan HT pad to remove the majority of swirls
Method of Application and noted Observations:
I polished this car a couple months ago but left this panel out at the time so it was the perfect spot to do a test on. I taped off my test section and as mentioned polished with M105 to remove the majority of swirls. Some which were really deep I did not take out completely. I have to mention this was the first time using 105 and it really works as advertised! Really cuts quick and leaves an impressive finish for such cutting action. I came back with 105 again on a tangerine pad but after looking at the pictures just now I think this was an error. I should have used the 205 or my WTSR with the tangerine pad. I saw no marring whatsoever after my tangerine pad and 105 but some of my pictures seem to show that there is...
I've got to look again tommorrow in the sun. I just didn't see that at all out there. Anyway, after polishing the area I came back divided a large section into (2) so I could label one side Crimson and the other Grey. Then using the crimson pad with 85RD on my Flex I polished one section. On speed 6 I went (4) passes with good pressure and then lightened up with (4) additional passes. Usually the 85RD makes it those 8 passes with room to spare but today it seemed to dry out a bit faster and I probably pushed it just a bit. I then cleaned the pad with my brush and finished the rest of that half of the roof (except for the area which was to receive the grey pad. Next I removed the pad and hit it with some XMT pad cleaner before dropping it in my pre-filled DP cleaning bucket. After removing the polish remnants from the roof I placed the LC flat grey finishing pad on my Flex and finished the other section with the same method. After cleaning up and removing the tape (but not the labels) I pulled the car out from beneath the canopy to snap some pictures. I snapped a whole lot of them trying to get an angle but that bad sun was hiding behind the camera no matter where I went. I cleaned up while waiting for the sun to move a bit for more pictures. While cleaning the pads I found that the Crimson pad is much more difficult to clean then the rest of the pads used here (including the other HT pads). While it is softer then the other HT pads it seems to be much more dense. If you squeeze it under water and let it absorb the water it takes longer then normal to regain its shape. It looks a bit like memory foam just for a second and then regains shape. Same goes for squeezing it out. It is more difficult to squeeze then the other 3 types of pads I used here. About 30 minutes later I was able to get a few shots where the sun had moved just enough out of the way. Please see the remainder of the review after the pictures.
Products
Before (Uh-Oh, that's not pretty) Should have pulled it into the sun for this before shot
Luke, I am your father
Crimson HT Finishing Pad
Sun refusing to go where I tell it to
Crimson pad test area
Grey pad test area
Crimson pad test area
Grey pad test area
Pros:
1.- Leaves a finish equivalent to the grey LC flat pad
2.- Absorbs less product
3.- Easier to see if there is any dirt on the pad (unless it's crimson colored dirt
)Cons:
1.- More difficult to clean then the Grey pad
???
1.- Eric told me it had more cut then a grey finishing pad which may be but I did not observe that at this time
2.- I have to play around with this some more.
3.- Autogeek describes this product as "simply an applicator" with no cut while Eric of Lake Country told me that this pad has some cut but finishes as well as the grey pad. Did the pad change between then and now?
Conclusion, Additional Observations and/or Summary:
Based on my experience with the Crimson Hydro Tech Foam Pad I will not purchase more of them for the time being . Based on my methods I don't believe I will gain an advantage switching to this pad for finishing. Because I have plenty of grey finishing pads I don't need to make a decision right now as I believe the finishing quality is equal.. After playing with it some more I may switch to this pad for finishing but as of now that is not the case.
Here is a little of the manufacturer info from Autogeek:
The crimson foam is designed to apply waxes, glazes, and sealants in flawless, even coats without causing swirls. The soft foam has no cutting ability. It simply serves as an applicator pad. Since the crimson pad is made of Hydro-Tech foam, it does not soak up liquid waxes and paint sealants like some finishing pads can. You'll be able to cover more paint with less product. The crimson pad is a great choice to apply Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0.
_______________________________
And the link: http://www.autogeek.net/lc-hydro-tech-foam-pads.htmlhttp://www.autogeek.net/optimum-no-rinse.htmlhttp://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-bond-tire-gel-32oz.htmlhttp://www.autogeek.net/1z-einszett-leather-care.html
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rops: Good job, Corey.
It will probably take a bit of playing with to see if it cuts faster than the gray pads, I bet the density will help. Look forward to future findings. :xyxthumbs:
