I have to say everything is in the prep work.
The Dp coating is easy to apply but I say do it one panal at a time.
This is my first time trying a coating. So far I like it. We'll see how it hold's up.
Questions? Fire away.
SRT-8? Beautiful!
Review: Detailer’s Paint Coating & Detailer’s Coating Prep Polish
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SRT-8? Beautiful!
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A little update.
There must be a curing process because it looks better 3 days later.
I tried wiping off a few love bugs and overnight dew spots with Megs Ultimate QD.
The Dp doesn't like it. It was very streaky.
I followed up on the streaks with Megs Ultimate QW. That did the trick.
Still wondering if I can use the Dp on 3m PPF.
There must be a curing process because it looks better 3 days later.
I tried wiping off a few love bugs and overnight dew spots with Megs Ultimate QD.
The Dp doesn't like it. It was very streaky.
I followed up on the streaks with Megs Ultimate QW. That did the trick.
Still wondering if I can use the Dp on 3m PPF.
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GREAT job on the SRT - its now owned by Fiat so looking forward to see how future models will look like
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The answer is "no".
The reason why is the coating is formulated to work on car paint and the flexible paint protection films also referred to as clear bras are very different than car paint.
It probably won't hurt to apply some and wipe it off as the product is non-corrosive but hard to say how much benefit their will be from the application.
Still thinking about applying a coating before the snow flies. A couple of questions: The durability of DP coating....it lasts for two years or so, right? What are the signs of it loosing its protective power? When corrections need to be done for marring or scratches, what is the procedure for recoating? How is the coating removed if a body shop needs to do a repaint? Both of my trucks are white and a gararged. One is almost a garge queen. Any advantage to using a coating rather than frequent application of a good sealant. Time spent is not an issue. Finally, is this coating less of a hassle to use than Opti Coat 2.0?
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Hi Tom,
Great questions,
Let me break them down using the multi-quote feature here on VBulletin...
Up to 2 years...
Water beading/sheeting won't be as impressive as it was when the coating was first applied. Slickness will start to diminish as it would with any applied wax, sealant or coating.
Simple. Polish the affected area to remove defects and then clean with Detailer's Paint Coating Prep followed b re-coating the area.
Whatever normal procedures body shops use to prep a panel or a car for re-paint will be more than enough to prepare your car or panel for new paint.
DP Paint Coating provides better paint protection and the water sheeting and beading is superior to any polymer sealant. It's also easier to apply than a traditional liquid paint sealant.
Plus, if down the road you've got an itch to try a new product, DP Paint Coating can be topped with a wax or sealant.
Spray on application makes DP Paint Coating a breeze. It is much easier to apply a consistent amount of product to the surface. Atomizing the liquid via the pump sprayer and using a thin foam applicator makes application and spreading out a uniform layer very easy.
Great questions,
Let me break them down using the multi-quote feature here on VBulletin...
Up to 2 years...
Water beading/sheeting won't be as impressive as it was when the coating was first applied. Slickness will start to diminish as it would with any applied wax, sealant or coating.
Simple. Polish the affected area to remove defects and then clean with Detailer's Paint Coating Prep followed b re-coating the area.
Whatever normal procedures body shops use to prep a panel or a car for re-paint will be more than enough to prepare your car or panel for new paint.
DP Paint Coating provides better paint protection and the water sheeting and beading is superior to any polymer sealant. It's also easier to apply than a traditional liquid paint sealant.
Plus, if down the road you've got an itch to try a new product, DP Paint Coating can be topped with a wax or sealant.
Spray on application makes DP Paint Coating a breeze. It is much easier to apply a consistent amount of product to the surface. Atomizing the liquid via the pump sprayer and using a thin foam applicator makes application and spreading out a uniform layer very easy.
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Mike assuming you use 2 pumps of the spray per body panel, any guess as to how many applications in a bottle of DP coating for an medium size car?
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I'm gonna say that might depend on the size of the car, how far you go with the desire to coat everything in sight, and how good your experience is with applying WOWA type Sealants, and other more permanent-semi permant paint coatings.
Any user of this product might find an initial tendency to over apply it". There is a bit of a learning curve due to how fast it flashes on the paint, which is virtually instantaneously upon contact. That "fools" a user into thinking they need to apply more and more as they go.
Plus, many folks might feel the urge to do a second application, to insure they haven't missed any coverage on the paint.
Anyone using this product I think will have a tendency-itch to push its boundaries, trying it on glass, headlight housings, taillights, chrome, wheels etc. I know I did.
I would say realistically, maybe 7-9 full applications, maybe 10, maybe a bit more?
You will find basically, that leveling any possibly seen smearing-streaking-hazing should be quite easy to deal with after coating the vehicle with a clean plush MF Towel. If all prior prep has been done correctly, then you will be treated to a slick finish that you may have never previously experienced before.
And as others have clearly suggested-mentioned, proper paint prep will be paramount to extracting the best longevity from this coating.
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I pushed the boundaries of this product just a few days ago, as we've been getting pummeled with torrential rains here in the desert southwest for the past two weeks straight. In two weeks, I think we've gotten more rain total, than the past 6 years.
Anyway, I decided to coat my Kia Spectra's Windshield with this product.
I cleaned the glass once with Sprayway Glass Cleaner, followed with 70% Alcohol, then again wiped with Sprayway Glass Cleaner.
I then applied the DP Paint Coating on the Windshield, and simply buffed with a MF Towel.
Didn't take long to experience the results, just a few short hours later the vehicle was again driving through healthy downpours about town.
Great beading, just like any other Glass Coating, and fly off seemed good, but there was a good deal of "wiper chatter", a bit worse than products like Rain-X, and Aquapel. (Yes, I do keep my wiper blades clean)
So, with that said, it does appear that DP Paint Coating is probably not the ideal-optimum product for a Windshield. Side glass, perhaps yes, no problemo.
The Glass coating is probably better suited-designed for the Glass
Anyway, I decided to coat my Kia Spectra's Windshield with this product.
I cleaned the glass once with Sprayway Glass Cleaner, followed with 70% Alcohol, then again wiped with Sprayway Glass Cleaner.
I then applied the DP Paint Coating on the Windshield, and simply buffed with a MF Towel.
Didn't take long to experience the results, just a few short hours later the vehicle was again driving through healthy downpours about town.
Great beading, just like any other Glass Coating, and fly off seemed good, but there was a good deal of "wiper chatter", a bit worse than products like Rain-X, and Aquapel. (Yes, I do keep my wiper blades clean)
So, with that said, it does appear that DP Paint Coating is probably not the ideal-optimum product for a Windshield. Side glass, perhaps yes, no problemo.
The Glass coating is probably better suited-designed for the Glass
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I was waiting for you to mention glass coating as I was wondering myself what the difference was between the paint, glass and wheel coatings.
I just ordered the entire kit which includes the Paint, glass and wheel coatings. I was hoping the prep polish might be included, but had to get that separate. Should have it in a couple days and hopefully get to try them this weekend.
After reading Mike's as well as a few other reviews I'm really excited to try this stuff.
I just ordered the entire kit which includes the Paint, glass and wheel coatings. I was hoping the prep polish might be included, but had to get that separate. Should have it in a couple days and hopefully get to try them this weekend.
After reading Mike's as well as a few other reviews I'm really excited to try this stuff.
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About all I can conclude about the DP Paint Coating, is that when I run out, I'll be keeping this product as a priority item to order again in the future.
When I first joined AGO-Autopia, I was bombarded with "Wolfgang-Pinnacle-Blackfire Dreams", and was under the initial impression that DP was somehow the "black sheep" of the PBMG lineup.
I found out later that thinking was wrong.
So many great products, and sadly sometimes just not enough centavos! LOL
An update.
Today was my first wash since the coating.
Call me crazy but things seem to go a little faster and easier than before.
I drove through beltway 8 last week while it was under constrcution and concrete washed up on the Jeep.
The concrete came off the paint with little effort. Not the wheels, they were not coated. I had to get creative and use an old credit card to scrap some of it off.
I went ahead and applied the Dp to the paint protection film BEFORE getting Mike's reply. I don't recommend anyone else doing that. The coating seemed to make the ppf more visible. Not sure how but the ppf can be seen more easliy now that it got coated, not the paint being coated but the film.
The paint looks as good as the day the Dp went on.
Today was my first wash since the coating.
Call me crazy but things seem to go a little faster and easier than before.
I drove through beltway 8 last week while it was under constrcution and concrete washed up on the Jeep.
The concrete came off the paint with little effort. Not the wheels, they were not coated. I had to get creative and use an old credit card to scrap some of it off.
I went ahead and applied the Dp to the paint protection film BEFORE getting Mike's reply. I don't recommend anyone else doing that. The coating seemed to make the ppf more visible. Not sure how but the ppf can be seen more easliy now that it got coated, not the paint being coated but the film.
The paint looks as good as the day the Dp went on.
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Thanks for the update, I have a bottle of the DPPC on its way and plan on applying it to my future wife's Mazda 6, after a good paint correction and it will be a great test bed for this product for sure.
Now did you notice a substantial increase in the shine afterwards?
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Now did you notice a substantial increase in the shine afterwards?
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If you do a thorough job in the prep work, it adds a quite a bit of gloss and very slick.
I just used it for the first time last Friday and Saturday on two vehicles. One was my 2013 F-150 with a fiberglass topper. This was my first attempt with a WOWA type product and this one is a little tricky to figure out. There weren't any streaking or hazing problems or anything like that, but the product flashes almost instantly once you spritz some on. This made spreading it out a rather quick process to get it spread over a large enough area. A couple swipes and it felt like I was dry wiping the paint.
Now... I have been since told that the product still continues to spread for a bit after the flashing is finished. i can see where there would be a tendency to use too much because of how this stuff dries so quickly and it's hard to tell where you left off. Had a few areas that may have had too much product on, but a simple wipe of a MF towel and all was good. Some of the reviews i have read say to have very good lighting available as that will aid in the ability to see the product being spread.
With the exception of the quick flash it was a breeze to use and all that was required after each panel was a very light wipe down with a MF.
The glass and wheel coatings work very similar.
I just used it for the first time last Friday and Saturday on two vehicles. One was my 2013 F-150 with a fiberglass topper. This was my first attempt with a WOWA type product and this one is a little tricky to figure out. There weren't any streaking or hazing problems or anything like that, but the product flashes almost instantly once you spritz some on. This made spreading it out a rather quick process to get it spread over a large enough area. A couple swipes and it felt like I was dry wiping the paint.
Now... I have been since told that the product still continues to spread for a bit after the flashing is finished. i can see where there would be a tendency to use too much because of how this stuff dries so quickly and it's hard to tell where you left off. Had a few areas that may have had too much product on, but a simple wipe of a MF towel and all was good. Some of the reviews i have read say to have very good lighting available as that will aid in the ability to see the product being spread.
With the exception of the quick flash it was a breeze to use and all that was required after each panel was a very light wipe down with a MF.
The glass and wheel coatings work very similar.
I can't say for sure that there was more of a shine. The shine is going to come from the prep work. You might have to set some time aside to get it right.
Plan your work, then work your plan. Proper prep can be tiring and leave you with little gas left to do the finishing touch. Not that using Dp was hard, cuz it's not but you know, tired mind tired eyes.
My truck is still new, cared for regulary, garaged kept at home and mostly covered parking at work.
I will say that when I get off work (6am I work nights) there is little to no moisture settled on the Jeep. All the other vehicles around me are all wet.
It rained a bit out here in Houston the past two weeks. When I would get back to the station what little water was on the Jeep was in nice strong beads.
Plan your work, then work your plan. Proper prep can be tiring and leave you with little gas left to do the finishing touch. Not that using Dp was hard, cuz it's not but you know, tired mind tired eyes.
My truck is still new, cared for regulary, garaged kept at home and mostly covered parking at work.
I will say that when I get off work (6am I work nights) there is little to no moisture settled on the Jeep. All the other vehicles around me are all wet.
It rained a bit out here in Houston the past two weeks. When I would get back to the station what little water was on the Jeep was in nice strong beads.
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Update***
Initial application was done September of 2013. I used the paint, glass and wheel coating. In Minnesota and most of the upper Midwest for that matter, this has been the harshest winter in 30 years. So cold has it been that washing even in tunnel washes have to be timed with a brief warm spell, which seem to come far a few between. Here we are today, the end of February and the current temp at 1pm in the afternoon is -8 degrees.
What I have noticed when I do get a chance to wash is that beading on the hood and glass are still very evident and I mean "tight" beading. It's quite obvious that the Paint coating is still working at 5 months and counting quite well and have no doubts that it will last for quite a bit longer.
There is no doubt in my mind that for those of us that have limited or no chance at waxing during the winter months that this DP Paint coating is the cats meow for a long lasting durable finish. For those that want a product that takes a lickin but keeps on tickin. A "set it and forget it" if you will, it's a no-brainer.
Initial application was done September of 2013. I used the paint, glass and wheel coating. In Minnesota and most of the upper Midwest for that matter, this has been the harshest winter in 30 years. So cold has it been that washing even in tunnel washes have to be timed with a brief warm spell, which seem to come far a few between. Here we are today, the end of February and the current temp at 1pm in the afternoon is -8 degrees.
What I have noticed when I do get a chance to wash is that beading on the hood and glass are still very evident and I mean "tight" beading. It's quite obvious that the Paint coating is still working at 5 months and counting quite well and have no doubts that it will last for quite a bit longer.
There is no doubt in my mind that for those of us that have limited or no chance at waxing during the winter months that this DP Paint coating is the cats meow for a long lasting durable finish. For those that want a product that takes a lickin but keeps on tickin. A "set it and forget it" if you will, it's a no-brainer.