Dr_Pain
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Well, let me first apologize for being a little tardy in reviewing this product. I was fortunate to win in the Product Giveaway (earlier this month) which was sponsored by Hyde's and AG. Unfortunately "life" and its associated responsibilities kicked me in the behind..... but better a little late than never, right? :xyxthumbs:
Well without further ado I give you by unbiased review of Hyde's Serum Rust Stopper
Hyde’s Serum Rust Stopper, rustopper, anti-rust solution for wheels
The product manufacturer claims that its product will prevent the "rust dust" problems, which often plagues detailers when washing/wetting those darn untreated break rotors.
I have to admit that I've never really been "plagued" by this problem of heavy "rust dust" after a detail (more on that later), however after researching the issue, I did encounter a few threads requesting assistance in "fixing" this problem, which I am sure is what prompted Hyde's to create their product.
For those wondering, "rust dust" is the result of surface flash rust which is shedded off the rotors as you drive away... and first apply the brakes. This flash rust occurs when moisture comes in contact with the unprotected steel surface (or metal particles) on the brake rotors. This basic oxidation process creates a thin layer of surface rust which remains on the rotor until you drive away and first apply the brake. At that point the pads make contact with the rotor, which mechanically abrades the surface oxidation, and fine dust flies everywhere..... depositing itself on all your freshly detailed rims (and other surfaces).
For today's review I chose to use one of my regular maintenance customer, a beautify 2013 BMW 740Li with M-Series wheels. This car was selected because the spokes are widely spread, making it easier to demonstrate the product.
As you can see, this car came to me nice and dirty (courtesy of our sugar cane cutting/grinding season), however I can tell you that this car is normally meticulously maintained (by my son and I :xyxthumbs
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The process started with a general pre-treatment of the wheels and tires using a relative new addition to my arsenal (thanks Roshan!)
After a little agitation with my trusty Meguair tire brush I gave my full attention to the rim face, barrel, hub, calipers and rotors with an assortment of Speedmaster brushes
Then came the Iron X treatment, and a little agitation with my Speedmaster Pro brush
After assuring myself that the wheels were properly cleaned and decontaminated I selected the wheel in the shade to use the Hyde's Serum (the product should not be applied in the fun sun)
As you can see, my spraying technique was either not the best or maybe I had too much water on the rotor at the time of the application (which could have diluted the product. In any case, it looks like I missed a little area. FYI, I chose to leave it alone and not reaaply on purpose (for testing reason)
After its required drying time, I wipe off the rotors (and other surfaces, and all seemed well in the world.....
BELOW is the opposite back wheel rotor on the same car after the same cleaning and decontamination process, as you can see, there is a little "flash rust" on the rotors
When comparing both rotors (protected and unprotected), the product did exactly what the manufacturer claimed it did. :dblthumb2: The protected side was "flash rust" free, whereas the unprotected had a light layer of surface rust.
Overall, the product was extremely easy to use. The bottle had a very nice sprayer head with 2 optional setting: wide and narrow (for those hard to reach rotors). The product did not seem to have a smell, although I have to admit that my nostrils were still suffering the smell of IronX. If I were to suggest a modification to the product, I may want to see a remote sprayer head to ease the application around all the spokes (without having to turn the bottle upside down or in position where the product would not dispense).
In researching the product and reading other people's issues with "rust dust" and "flash rust", I did manage to see a few HORRIBLE examples and wondered why I did not have the same problem. Well, the answer came to me courtesy of a flash back to college chemistry! As some of you may have read, I have a state of the art water conditioner/filter at my house, which also supplies my shop. The unit filters to microns and eliminates all types of minerals and chemicals, including chlorine (and other corrosive chemicals). Understanding that my results could be affected by how clean my water was I decided to experiment a little. I put the system on bypass and poured some "city" treated water in a spray bottle. You do remember my less than stellar job at covering the rotor, right? Well, I sprayed this untreated city water on the rotor, and low and behold surface rust in the levels unseen before!!. I would love to show you the surface rust on another rotor however the picture did not come out, but you can see that the unprotected area (of my protected rotor) shows quite a bit of accumulated rust (also shows that I did have more coverage/protection than what my "application" picture demonstrated).
So what do I really think about the product???
The business man in me did have to ask the question: "Is the product worth the money??", especially since I never actually had a huge problem with rust dust. At $12.99 for ~17oz. the product (for me) does fall into a category of: "Is the product saving me "production" time?". According to other reviews on the product, you should be able to have multiple applications (cars) out of one bottle, which is a plus! But for me, the product will not save me time (or aggravation, since I am blessed with my water setup). As a normal step of my final inspection I do a "final wipedown" of the car --->after driving it out of the shop<--- This will normally take care of the surface rust (which in my case is already negligible). The rims do get the same "final wipedown", so anything that might have flown off the rotor would be taking care of. In terms of time saving (for me), there is none at this time.
The question I do have for the manufacturer (although I believe I already know the answer to) is: " Will the product last and provide equal protection for flash rust for an extended period? or does its basic protection capacity disappear as soon as you apply the brakes?
I would definitely want this product in my arsenal if it provides lasting protection through dew, rain (or other oxidation agents). Just imagine if you didn't have to worry about your car (and its rotors) parked and being soaked in a rainstorm though the night (therefore accumulating flash rust)!?!
As usual, I welcome comments, suggestions, rebuttals etc... and FYI if you did notice the tire dressing, I am planning on reviewing it shortly
Products used:
Meguiar’s D101 All Purpose Cleaner combo pack
Mothers Tire, Wheel & Well Brush Kit
Daytona Speed Master Detailer’s Kit
Hyde’s Serum Rust Stopper, rustopper, anti-rust solution for wheels
Well without further ado I give you by unbiased review of Hyde's Serum Rust Stopper
Hyde’s Serum Rust Stopper, rustopper, anti-rust solution for wheels
The product manufacturer claims that its product will prevent the "rust dust" problems, which often plagues detailers when washing/wetting those darn untreated break rotors.
I have to admit that I've never really been "plagued" by this problem of heavy "rust dust" after a detail (more on that later), however after researching the issue, I did encounter a few threads requesting assistance in "fixing" this problem, which I am sure is what prompted Hyde's to create their product.
For those wondering, "rust dust" is the result of surface flash rust which is shedded off the rotors as you drive away... and first apply the brakes. This flash rust occurs when moisture comes in contact with the unprotected steel surface (or metal particles) on the brake rotors. This basic oxidation process creates a thin layer of surface rust which remains on the rotor until you drive away and first apply the brake. At that point the pads make contact with the rotor, which mechanically abrades the surface oxidation, and fine dust flies everywhere..... depositing itself on all your freshly detailed rims (and other surfaces).
For today's review I chose to use one of my regular maintenance customer, a beautify 2013 BMW 740Li with M-Series wheels. This car was selected because the spokes are widely spread, making it easier to demonstrate the product.
As you can see, this car came to me nice and dirty (courtesy of our sugar cane cutting/grinding season), however I can tell you that this car is normally meticulously maintained (by my son and I :xyxthumbs
.The process started with a general pre-treatment of the wheels and tires using a relative new addition to my arsenal (thanks Roshan!)
After a little agitation with my trusty Meguair tire brush I gave my full attention to the rim face, barrel, hub, calipers and rotors with an assortment of Speedmaster brushes
Then came the Iron X treatment, and a little agitation with my Speedmaster Pro brush
After assuring myself that the wheels were properly cleaned and decontaminated I selected the wheel in the shade to use the Hyde's Serum (the product should not be applied in the fun sun)
As you can see, my spraying technique was either not the best or maybe I had too much water on the rotor at the time of the application (which could have diluted the product. In any case, it looks like I missed a little area. FYI, I chose to leave it alone and not reaaply on purpose (for testing reason)
After its required drying time, I wipe off the rotors (and other surfaces, and all seemed well in the world.....
BELOW is the opposite back wheel rotor on the same car after the same cleaning and decontamination process, as you can see, there is a little "flash rust" on the rotors
When comparing both rotors (protected and unprotected), the product did exactly what the manufacturer claimed it did. :dblthumb2: The protected side was "flash rust" free, whereas the unprotected had a light layer of surface rust.
Overall, the product was extremely easy to use. The bottle had a very nice sprayer head with 2 optional setting: wide and narrow (for those hard to reach rotors). The product did not seem to have a smell, although I have to admit that my nostrils were still suffering the smell of IronX. If I were to suggest a modification to the product, I may want to see a remote sprayer head to ease the application around all the spokes (without having to turn the bottle upside down or in position where the product would not dispense).
In researching the product and reading other people's issues with "rust dust" and "flash rust", I did manage to see a few HORRIBLE examples and wondered why I did not have the same problem. Well, the answer came to me courtesy of a flash back to college chemistry! As some of you may have read, I have a state of the art water conditioner/filter at my house, which also supplies my shop. The unit filters to microns and eliminates all types of minerals and chemicals, including chlorine (and other corrosive chemicals). Understanding that my results could be affected by how clean my water was I decided to experiment a little. I put the system on bypass and poured some "city" treated water in a spray bottle. You do remember my less than stellar job at covering the rotor, right? Well, I sprayed this untreated city water on the rotor, and low and behold surface rust in the levels unseen before!!. I would love to show you the surface rust on another rotor however the picture did not come out, but you can see that the unprotected area (of my protected rotor) shows quite a bit of accumulated rust (also shows that I did have more coverage/protection than what my "application" picture demonstrated).
So what do I really think about the product???
The business man in me did have to ask the question: "Is the product worth the money??", especially since I never actually had a huge problem with rust dust. At $12.99 for ~17oz. the product (for me) does fall into a category of: "Is the product saving me "production" time?". According to other reviews on the product, you should be able to have multiple applications (cars) out of one bottle, which is a plus! But for me, the product will not save me time (or aggravation, since I am blessed with my water setup). As a normal step of my final inspection I do a "final wipedown" of the car --->after driving it out of the shop<--- This will normally take care of the surface rust (which in my case is already negligible). The rims do get the same "final wipedown", so anything that might have flown off the rotor would be taking care of. In terms of time saving (for me), there is none at this time.
The question I do have for the manufacturer (although I believe I already know the answer to) is: " Will the product last and provide equal protection for flash rust for an extended period? or does its basic protection capacity disappear as soon as you apply the brakes?
I would definitely want this product in my arsenal if it provides lasting protection through dew, rain (or other oxidation agents). Just imagine if you didn't have to worry about your car (and its rotors) parked and being soaked in a rainstorm though the night (therefore accumulating flash rust)!?!
As usual, I welcome comments, suggestions, rebuttals etc... and FYI if you did notice the tire dressing, I am planning on reviewing it shortly
Products used:
Meguiar’s D101 All Purpose Cleaner combo pack
Mothers Tire, Wheel & Well Brush Kit
Daytona Speed Master Detailer’s Kit
Hyde’s Serum Rust Stopper, rustopper, anti-rust solution for wheels
