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Totally agree.
Microfiber blocks tend to glide over paint better than microfiber suede patches on foam blocks.
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Totally agree.
Microfiber blocks tend to glide over paint better than microfiber suede patches on foam blocks.
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You are absolutely correct and accurate.
This is why it's is SO important that everyone does a Test Spot before buffing out an entire car.
The Test Spot is performed to dial-in a process on the paint in front of you because paint systems are different. Even different on the same make and models of cars because paint technology is always evolving and car manufactures can change paints systems on the assembly line at any time.
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Mike, thank you for replying to my questions. Much appreciated! If I may follow up, would you happen to know the hardness level of the WG Uber Ceramic Syringe coating?In my reply to you, besides the hardness questions and answer, I also brought up the chemical resistance feature. See post #7
And after discussing the problem with water spots, I mentioned it has been raining here to the point the Government put out a Flood Warning over our TV last night and then I said or typed this,
As promised,
I installed this coating last Wednesday, today is Tuesday, 6 days later and it's been raining constant and then the sun comes out and DRIES the rain drops on all cars.
I could not see a single water spot or water mark on the coated paint.
Now this doesn't automatically mean no matter where you live on Planet Earth, if you use this coating you wont' get Type II Water Spots or any kind of water marks on your car after it rains, you rinse the car or a sprinkler goes off an plasters your car with water. What it means is right here in Stuart, Florida, the water we have did not land on the paint then dry on the paint and leave a water spot or mark.
That's a good sign but not all inclusive to the rest of the water on Planet Earth.
See my article here,
What's in the water?
I've been very happy with it over the years, but as most of us, I love to try new products! So might give this one a go!
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Sorry, I don't know.
I think the last time I used this was when I wrote the review for it.
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Used it on an old 2-door Merc...
Sure worked good on this old 2-door Ford....
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StangFan25
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Sorry, I don't know.
I think the last time I used this was when I wrote the review for it.
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Used it on an old 2-door Merc...
No worries Mike, maybe I'll reach out to someone at AG and inquire.
I think your review of it was what got me convinced to give it a try, and here I am, years later still using it! It's a great product.
I think I'll give this new one a try, unfortunately I'll have to wait as I recently used the syringe to coat my mustang!
Thanks again, Mike!
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Props to WG for not mentioning any of the 'eleventy-billion h' hardness nonsense. In a practical sense, it's a totally irrelevant measurement aside from marketing mumbo-jumbo.
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Unfortunately, they also did it. In the product page it says: Wolfgang PROFI Ceramic Coating is rated a 9H on the hardness rating scale, making your coating almost as hard as a diamond.
EDIT: Maybe you were talking about the old WG coating. My statement above applies to the new PROFI one.
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Doh! Bummer...would be nice if mfg's got away from that stuff. Oh my...just noticed they equated 9h pencil hardness to nearly that of a diamond...that's even worse. Not just misleading, outright incorrect.
Mike Phillips
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I'm just the "how-to" guy.
I equally share info from all manufacturers for any product I review or just write-about.
What you see me share is what I'm sent from the marketing department with approval from management. They are privy to the meaty information about these product not me.
I have great relationships with a number of chemists in this industry and when applicable, I'm able to share information they share with me for public consumption.
More info usually leads to more trust and increased sales.
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Mike,
Who was the Project Manager on this new coating? Hopefully they can come in and answer some questions.
- What where the key data points and objectives for this coating?
- What were the comparable target coatings that this is targeting to trying to be better than?
- What is our baseline we are trying to meet / beat?
- How is this different or better than the existing WG Uber Ceramic in the syringe?
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Great questions Troy.
I wasn't the project manager for this or any products lately but I'll take a stab at your questions. Others here at Autogeek read this forum and if they want to add their 2 cents that's up to them. I think you already know I'm kind of the hands-on detailer here at Autogeek and that's why you see me answering questions daily and writing how-to articles weekly.
Real simple actually, provide a long lasting protective coating that offers,
- Swirl and scratch resistance - like any other coating it's not an invisible force field.
- Provide excellent resistance to chemical attack, like water spotting from the pollution and corrosive substances in multiple sources of water.
- Provide excellent gloss and shine.
- Provide an extremely hydrophobic surface that offers a self-cleaning effect and faster and sager washing and drying.
My guess would be any coating on the market that also offers the above characteristics I listed plus is advertised to last up to 3 years.
Of course, you have no doubt read my article that talks about how long ANYTHING lasts on a surface. If not it explains i real simple terms that how long anything lasts depends on how the coating is "touched". Wash your coated car carefully with a clean, uncontaminated wash mitt or microfiber towels and it can last a long time. Wash your car with a brick? Probably not going to last a long time or look good a long time.
How long will a ceramic coating last on my car?
See above answer.
As I've been typing in the forum world now for 18+ years, I'm not a chemist and I never try to play the role of a chemist in the online world, (or the real world), but I believe the Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating uses a different type of chemistry.
Hope that helps...
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Yeah, making claims like that really take away from my respect for a brand. Clearly the marketing team wants to say the same others are saying, thinking that if they don't make the claim people will buy competitors because they are 9H.
Another brand that recently updated their coating is McKee's 37 and they also made the 9H claim. It's a shame all these respected brands are going that route because the cheap ones that flood social media with ads say that too.
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I know everyone's situation is unique but I find another ~$100 coating difficult to swallow in these times.
That being said I'll be eyeing this for wheels since that is one place I think multi-year durability is pretty useful.
That being said I'll be eyeing this for wheels since that is one place I think multi-year durability is pretty useful.
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On wheels pretty much all these coatings that claim 2 or 3 years on paint will last about a year anyways. There's just so much extra wear on wheels that nothing will last a really long time there. I think between 12 and 18 months is considered great on wheels and many coatings, even the dedicated wheel ones, can't get that far.
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Mike, would it be safe to say swirl remover vs polish is dependedI did not.
For most paints, the Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover will finish down LSP ready. It's a really nice medium cut polish.
Same answer as above.
They both work great and interestingly, they use very different abrasive technology but I would use either on black paint.
on paint condition and how soft or hard the paint is? Sorry for the
delay.
Thanks
Jim
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Do you mean, you choose whether to use a MEDIUM CUT polish versus a FINE CUT polish depending upon the condition of the paint plus the hardness or softness factor?
The answer is "yes".
If from experience on your car's paint system you think you might be able to get the job done using a fine cut polish, this would be the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze, then test the Finishing Glaze first.
For everyone reading this into the future, I don't know who used the word GLAZE for the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze but it's NOT a glaze. It's a fine cut polish. Just the normal confusion the entire industry creates when people use the words glaze and polish wrong.
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Just to clarify. Is the idea to work in a 2x2' area, let it flash, then wipe off and move to the next 2x2' area?
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Yes.
I would 2' by 2' is as large as you want to work at one time and for most people it's probably too large simply because that's a lot of space to make sure you're EVENLY laying down and spreading out a thin, invisible liquid. Good lighting helps for this.
I'll share a picture later of the largest panel I've coated at one time and I'm pretty good at this and I thought it was a tick on the large size to tackle at one time.
Keep in mine - you don't have to work large sections at a time and it's easier to break large panels into smaller sections and work these at one time. Then after wiping the section, move onto a new section and overlap a little into the previous section.
Glad you cleared that up. I was confused. A glaze would put down something between the paint and the PROFI.
So, what topping will play nice with this new coating?
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I've been clearing up confusion about "glazes" for almost 20 years.
You want me to post a list of just my articles on this topic?
I could probably do a Skynet search and pull up most of my posts on the confusion. :laughing:
That's a "new" topic of confusion - there's no need to top a coating... unless you're using,
- Coating Wash
- Coating Detailer
- Coating Booster
If you apply things like waxes or sealants - you lose the characteristics of the coating and gain the characteristics of the topper, which usually means "less" positive features. Thus you defeat the original purpose of installing the coating.
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