Review: Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating and Nanoskin AutoScrub - Black BMW

Matt@flyingchipmunk

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Hi folks! Long time reader of the forums, figured I would add my two cents after learning so much from other people posting.

We're all stoked about this Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating, and I had a great project car to use it on. A metallic black BMW that got destroyed by a dealer washing it, and it's my personal vehicle.

I made a little photo journal of this corrective process and thought I would share it with everyone here also.

There were two new products that I tried out that I'll add my thoughts about for you, first up was the Nanoskin AutoScrub and Nanoskin Glide for paint decontamination.

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Pros: The areas I used the autoscrub on vs manually with a claybar were slicker. It did do a great job at speeding up the process where I used it. Glide? Yes it served it's purpose well, but you probably do not need to specifically use their Glide for lubrication honestly.

Cons: A little pricey. Marring. I'll weigh this with the fact I'm working with a very very soft black paint. Any, and I mean any non-flat body line this autoscrub fine pad left its mark. After two attempts of altering techniques and even using it in my hand off the DA (flex on speed 1) I gave up on non-flat body panels with the autoscrub pad. I'm not talking about sharp raised body lines, but anything that caused the pad to not lie flat. I did the rest of the car without problems, just stayed away from edges and raised body lines and followed up with claying those areas.

Final Thoughts: I am hesitant to use the autoscrub on a vehicle that I wasn't planning on polishing. I might leave it off the DA and use it by hand only especially on soft paints.

Ok so on to the main show, Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating -

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I am a long time Zaino user making a leap to trying out a coating for the first time. If you are familiar with Zaino products you know the adage, "a little goes a long way, you probably used too much." Years of Zaino application has embedded that in me, and was equally true of the Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating. That picture above is after coating the entire vehicle and all the glass except the front windshield. See what I mean about a little goes a long way?

There aren't that many instructions that come with it, but a little common sense and you are on you're way. Do yourself a favor and use pliers to remove/insert the needle tips, your fingers will thank you. Take a set of pliers and untwist the white plug, then twist in tight with pliers the blue tip. A little tip if you are going to put this in storage, write somewhere on the box or the syringe the date you broke the seal.

The applicator pad that comes with it is a Lake Country Coating Applicator, firm enough, but not too firm. The MF towel that comes with it is a rectangle sized edgeless towel. If I had to guess somewhere in the 480gsm range. Excellent MF towel for the job. As with most edgeless MF towels it can be advantageous to wash them first so they don't leave a trail of lint when you wipe down your vehicle.

Prepping the vehicle: Due to my own ordering mistake my Wolfgang Perfekt Finish Paint Prep was not going to arrive in time for this project. Kudos to the Autogeek phone team for taking my call and answering my questions. Confirmed my normal ~12% IPA wipe down after polishing would be sufficient in lieu of the WG Paint Prep.

Application of the product only took a panel to get use to. The flash time is plenty long enough to give you enough working time to do it right without rushing against the clock. How much to put on the applicator? I don't have a picture of this step so accept my apologies for this rough mock up :)

I found this pattern of product on the applicator worked for me. Imagine drawing an X on the pad and put a few drops along that X. The applicator has a tendency to "catch" on the body panel at first but after one or two applications of product to the applicator it started gliding smoother. I had a few high spots on my first panel so I decreased the amount of "dots" on my X pattern by 1 in each direction and continued with the rest of the vehicle. It is very easy to work with. The areas where I fought high spots more often were corners and edges around curvy body lines.

Tip: When you are inspecting for high spots get your head down close to the body panel so the angle you are looking at is very small, use the ambient light source with this low angle to inspect for high spots easier. Standing straight above a few feet away you will miss them. I also supplemented the light with the same high power LED nitecore light I use for polish inspection.

The pattern I developed was apply to one "working area", add more to applicator and apply to a second "working area". Go back and deal with any high spots in the first area, then deal with any high spots in the second area. Wait a minute and buff both areas with the MF towel. I say "working area" instead of panel because I found matching the coverage area to the product on the pad instead of loading the pad up more to cover an entire panel more effective.

The nose, headlights, mirrors, and truck loading lid (top of rear bumper) has XPEL ultimate clear bra applied. Application over the clear bra was just like the rest of the vehicle paying attention to edges for high spots. The applicator smoothly glided over the clear bra effortlessly. The front windshield of this BMW has a rain sensor and I would love to hear anyone's thoughts on this one. I have been told not to apply rainx coatings in fear of messing up the rain sensor, and out of caution I did not coat my windshield. I would love to hear from people with experience coating or not coating windshields with rain sensors.

The final outcome speaks for itself ...

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1 week later I got to drive though rain and snapped these shots of the beading.
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I am anxious to see how this holds up to a rough New England winter!

I invite you to enjoy the full gallery of the correction session if you are interested. I've added thoughts and tips to the pictures as well - Behind The Scenes - flyingchipmunk

Any questions or feedback I'm more than happy to answer!
 
I agree about the Nanoskin AutoScrub pads. While they may be expensive they will do a far better job than clay. Even more so while being driven by the 3401. Some form of polishing is mandatory after using these as they will leave marring behind. One option for better conformability would be to utilize a foam interface pad.
Meguiars Unigrit™ 6 Inch Foam Interface Pad, sanding disc interface pad, backup pad, foam backing pad

Your Black Sapphire Metallic 335i looks great. What was your polishing process to restore the finish after the dealership?

Beautiful review. I really enjoyed reading it. Thanks for sharing.
 
Awesome review! thanks for sharing:)
Nice review, nice pics - thanks very much for sharing

Glad you guys liked it, thanks!

I agree about the Nanoskin AutoScrub pads. While they may be expensive they will do a far better job than clay. Even more so while being driven by the 3401. Some form of polishing is mandatory after using these as they will leave marring behind. One option for better conformability would be to utilize a foam interface pad.
Meguiars Unigrit™ 6 Inch Foam Interface Pad, sanding disc interface pad, backup pad, foam backing pad

Your Black Sapphire Metallic 335i looks great. What was your polishing process to restore the finish after the dealership?

Beautiful review. I really enjoyed reading it. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks the foam interface tip, I'll have to give that a try next time! That will probably help for raised body lines but I'll still leave sharp lines and edges to a clay bar. It's too bad, I had wanted to be able to add this to my decontaminate but no-correction option to speed things up. I have no problems using it on a vehicle I'm correcting anyways because the marring left by it was pretty minor, in fact corrected by hand in most spots.

Thanks I love how it came out!

The test section in the gallery was done with the flex 3401, white LC CCS pad, Menzerna SF3500, speed 4, 6 passes to get about 80% correction.

Formula #1: The bump to 90/95% correction was the flex 3401, orange LC CCS pad, Menzerna SF3500, speed 4, 6 passes with the 2nd to last lessening pressure and final pass just machine weight.

Formula #2: The second test area I did (not in the pictures) was the Rupes LHR75E Mini, white Rupes 4" foam pad, Menzerna SF3500, speed 5, 5 passes to get 90/95% correction.

Most of the vehicle was done with formula #1, smaller areas or too curvy for the flex areas were done with formula #2.

The roof rails above the windows were tougher paint, bumped the rupes up to the yellow Rupes 4" foam pad for those strips.

Had some bumper rash from someone who swiped my rear passenger bumper edge and did an 85% correction in that area with the Rupes LHR75E and green 4" Rupes foam pad followed up with the yellow 4" Rupes foam pad. A few RIDS that I left there, too deep to deal with.

The pillars were done with a slightly water diluted SF3500, Rupes LHR75E, Rupes 4" white foam pad, speed 3, 2-3 passes very little pressure just enough to keep the pad rotating at the right speed.
 
Fantastic work! I enjoyed looking over the photos in the gallery. Can I ask what prep work was needed to apply the coating to the bits with XPEL?
 
Fantastic work! I enjoyed looking over the photos in the gallery. Can I ask what prep work was needed to apply the coating to the bits with XPEL?

Thanks!

I used poorboy's bug squash 3:1 diluted on the few bug splatter spots, a few self sacrificed spots of debris impact I poured hot water over and agitated with my thumb to self correct the film (a property of the ultimate XPEL film).

Clayed it by hand, followed up with XPEL protection film cleaner. Then included it with my ~12% IPA wipe down with the rest of the car.
 
Nice work. For tight spots, I just remove the autoscrub pad from the machine and use it by hand rather than pulling out the clay bar or speedy prep towel.
 
Nice work. For tight spots, I just remove the autoscrub pad from the machine and use it by hand rather than pulling out the clay bar or speedy prep towel.

Do you find it still mars the paint? maybe it was my ridiculous soft black paint but it still marred non-flat body panels when I used it by hand.
 
Do you find it still mars the paint? maybe it was my ridiculous soft black paint but it still marred non-flat body panels when I used it by hand.

No, it will still mar. I can only think of a handful of vehicles I've done that didn't have at least some marring. To be fair, even clay will mar some soft paints. The comment/tip was strictly meant to save you a little time in pulling out the clay in those tight areas; looks like you are already doing that!
 
A quick almost three month update.

This has been the mildest winter in the northeast that I can remember so the harshness of salt has not been that bad.

I've done rinseless washes every few weeks and I have not noticed any degradation in beading except for one spot the other night. On the front hood area that is covered with the XPEL ultimate clear bra I noticed a huge loss of beading.

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You can see the water beading everywhere on the clear bra but that small front section.

This will require more testing to see why this area is not beading like the rest. The prep work was the same for the entire clear bra. This may be early signs that the coating is failing on top of XPEL's protection film sealant. I'll have to conduct some tests in the spring with and without the sealant.

One thing to note as a nice pro is maintenance. I've been rinseless washing a number of vehicles with Megs D114, D115, and Wolfgang Uber rinseless. Without fail all 3 products are easier to work with on the ceramic coated car vs various other sealed/waxed vehicles. On the other vehicles the rinseless solution dries faster so I have to work in smaller sections. On the ceramic coated vehicles I can do 3 or 4 times the area at a time and the solution doesn't dry up on me. Saves a few minutes not having to switch from mitt to towels as often.

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Thanks!

... a few self sacrificed spots of debris impact I poured hot water over and agitated with my thumb to self correct the film (a property of the ultimate XPEL film).

I would like to know more about what you did.

A stone impact broke through my Xpel Ultimate but did not damage the paint. The damaged area of the film, maybe 1/4 inch, no longer lays flat on the paint. Your comment leads me to think maybe this can be partially "repaired".
 
I would like to know more about what you did.

A stone impact broke through my Xpel Ultimate but did not damage the paint. The damaged area of the film, maybe 1/4 inch, no longer lays flat on the paint. Your comment leads me to think maybe this can be partially "repaired".
if it's torn through the film it won't work, but for surface scratches the XPEL ultimate version of their films can be agitated to "heal", pouring very warm water helps allows it to expand a little and do it's magic. The spots I corrected were rock impacts but it didn't pierce the film. I'll see if I can find the link on their site that talks about it.

Basically all I did was soak my mitt in a bucket of very warm water, lay it on the film for 10 seconds or so, then gently rub the area in tiny circles with my thumb.

edit: I don't know if I would recommend doing this near an edge, it might lift the edge.

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Great review. Appreciate the detailed write-up. The results in the pics speak for themselves.
 
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