Review: Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Spray Coating

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

By the way, Dr. David Ghodoussi used to work for Klean-Strip and he formulated a lot of their products. I remember him telling me he worked on the Prep-All product.

A chemist that also worked for car paint companies to create modern clearcoat paints
Dr. David Ghodoussi is a PhD Organic Chemist and his background includes working for many of the major paint companies that make automotive car paints. He was one of the chemists that helped to create modern clearcoat/basecoat paint technology back in the 1980's.

Optimum Car Wax
Dr. Ghodoussi has a product called Optimum Car Wax which uses a patented UV protection ingredient and process that offers the same UV protection as the UV protection ingredients used in the actual clear layer of paint on your car. Dr. Ghodoussi also told me that Ford Motor Company did long term testing of protection products and documented that this product actually lived up to the claim and offered true UV protection for automotive clearcoats.



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The above is from my article here,

Patented UV Protection - Optimum Car Wax - by Dr. Ghodoussi at Autogeek.com

 

[acuRAS82]

If you want a strong panel wipe, take a look at the GTechniq Panel Wipe or get some Mineral Spirits.

Mike, you would recommend this Gtechniq over Gyeon (which I see you recommend recently) or CarPro Eraser?

 

[PeteT19640]

I have Prep-All here at the AG Garage. Don't use it much as it really stinks and I'm not one that's bothered by foul odors but this stuff reeks.

If you want a strong panel wipe, take a look at the GTechniq Panel Wipe or get some Mineral Spirits.

Thanks Mike

Over here Mineral spirits can mean Mineral Turpentine?
Will prepsol type product work other than smell. This is just as a test panel?

 

[TNMIKE46]

I have re-read this thread and have a question that I don't see has been addressed. I applied the Uber spray Ceramic on my black TransAm 5 days ago. She had to sit out for 2 days while I worked on my Daughters Mustang so she accumalated dust/pollen and then was rained on, so I washed it with WG Si02 coating wash (great product).

My question is, can I apply another coat of the Spray Ceramic?

 

[acuRAS82]

I have re-read this thread and have a question that I don't see has been addressed. I applied the Uber spray Ceramic on my black TransAm 5 days ago. She had to sit out for 2 days while I worked on my Daughters Mustang so she accumalated dust/pollen and then was rained on, so I washed it with WG Si02 coating wash (great product).

My question is, can I apply another coat of the Spray Ceramic?

My opinion: if you hadn’t used WG Coating Wash and it’s only been a few weeks (so not much embedded dirt or contaminants in that time) then yes, definitely.

And I would still do it after using the coating wash. These are both WG ceramic products, they should use similar polymers, SiO2 formulation. Chances are they will play well together and feed off each other. Plus, the CSC bottle holds a ton of applications so why not use it and play around. I can’t imagine anything ‘bad’ coming out of this.

 

[TNMIKE46]

Thanks for that quick response. This stuff is so darn quick and easy to apply and remove its crazy!!

 

[Willbeen]

So are multiple coats for durability better than just one? Can it be applied over the WG Si02 Paint Sealant as well? Just thinking back to the days (like last year) when I would top off the WG DGPS with WG Fuzion and am wondering if the benefits of multiple coatings apply to ceramic products.

 

[acuRAS82]

So are multiple coats for durability better than just one? Can it be applied over the WG Si02 Paint Sealant as well? Just thinking back to the days (like last year) when I would top off the WG DGPS with WG Fuzion and am wondering if the benefits of multiple coatings apply to ceramic products.

Differing opinions and none are probably wrong. I like two coats of anything for sure coverage. I don’t detail for money so I’m not trying to save every last drop of product though.

In my opinion, there’s potential benefits for topping SiO2 and Ceramic Spray in either order. I don’t know longevity of each yet but the sealant has had better behavior for me so it would be good on top... but on the other hand Ceramic Spray is so easy to apply and it’s behavior is still good, so it would be a good topper just to apply whenever. PBMG products always have good synergy so my bet is that you can mix and match these things to what you are looking for and they will most likely leave you with a smile.

 

[Loach]

As far as panel wipes go, Gtechniq Panel Wipe is much stronger and more significant than the Gyeon/CarPro twins. If you're trying to specifically tackle fresh products, Gtechniq will do a better job at this in knocking them down. After polishing paint I still feel Gyeon/CarPro are effective, and definitely paint safe, so there's a balancing act going on in terms of strength and safety. Gtechniq feels like I could get into trouble if I'm not careful with how I'm working with it, but I need to pull it out more and see if I can get trouble to pop up negligently. This is where Prep-All shines, because I haven't been in a situation yet with Prep-All where I felt it was unsafe on the paint, even in negligent circumstances. More power than Gyeon/CarPro, better on/off application than the other ones especially Gtechniq, and by far the best price of the bunch for the gallon. The main issue with Prep-All is like Mike said, the smell is heavy solvent based. I've used much worse smelling, but I still like to wear my half-mask respirator with it.

I have re-read this thread and have a question that I don't see has been addressed. I applied the Uber spray Ceramic on my black TransAm 5 days ago. She had to sit out for 2 days while I worked on my Daughters Mustang so she accumalated dust/pollen and then was rained on, so I washed it with WG Si02 coating wash (great product).

My question is, can I apply another coat of the Spray Ceramic?

Yes, you can definitely add a second application of the Spray Coating and this may ultimately be more beneficial than one coat. I'm working on testing this right now, on my front bumper I've added a second coat on half of it after my last wash, so I will check to see how this holds up compared to the single application on the other half. I'll be able to observe the first wash of the second coat tomorrow and report back.

 

[acuRAS82]

@Loach, what is the unsafe potential you speak of for Gtechniq? Lack of lubricity, drying out paint, other?

Looks like I’m in the market for Prep-All.

 

[Loach]

@Loach, what is the unsafe potential you speak of for Gtechniq? Lack of lubricity, drying out paint, other?

Looks like I’m in the market for Prep-All.

It looks like paint blistering or solvent pop. And I just pulled it out now and I was seeing that occurring significantly with a few sprays of Gtechniq Panel Wipe, letting it dwell for about 10 seconds before wiping in, whereas with Prep-All that is not occurring. It's difficult to capture it in a picture but you can see the shifting of the texture of the paint if you're looking closely with a light source, it looks like tiny texture bumps have popped up everywhere that you've spray and wiped the Panel Wipe in. Not as bad as Duplicolor's Aerosol Prep-Spray, but still noticeable.

I'll let the panel sit over night for the clear to settle and check again tomorrow. See if I can grab a good video side by side to show the texture change.

 

[acuRAS82]

@Loach: If I want the most efficient prep panel wipe for leaving a completely bare surface after polishing (and I’m assuming all of them provide decent lubrication), what would be your pick?

 

[Loach]

@Loach: If I want the most efficient prep panel wipe for leaving a completely bare surface after polishing (and I’m assuming all of them provide decent lubrication), what would be your pick?

Prep-All without a doubt. The paint swelling left behind from Gtechniq Panel Wipe was temporary, it cleared up the next day by itself. Would be interesting to see under a microscope what exactly is going on more clearly and how the paint bounces back from it.

Second application of the Uber Spray Coating is holding up fine, the single coat section is performing well also, just not at the level of its fresh performance. I can see myself using Uber Spray Coating often for continual maintenance, it's just so easy to work with.

 

[acuRAS82]

Prep-All without a doubt. The paint swelling left behind from Gtechniq Panel Wipe was temporary, it cleared up the next day by itself. Would be interesting to see under a microscope what exactly is going on more clearly and how the paint bounces back from it.

Second application of the Uber Spray Coating is holding up fine, the single coat section is performing well also, just not at the level of its fresh performance. I can see myself using Uber Spray Coating often for continual maintenance, it's just so easy to work with.

Thanks, I’ll go with Prep-All over Eraser or Gyeon then. When I run these tests it’s pretty embarrassing when I have to wonder whether the panel wipe did it’s job, so just looking for a sure thing.

As far as Uber Spray Coating, would you say it’s more like something that should be used continually for top performance, versus something like CanCoat that is apply and expect top performance for 6+ months?

My experience is that it’s easier to apply than CanCoat but doesn’t seem as robust (nor is the . And that’s fine because a bottle holds a ton of applications and the easy factor. Might even be a good one-spray-per-panel drying aid.

 

[PeteT19640]

I think this is a bit disappointing product from Wolfgang not living up to long lasting beading.
I will be interested to see how it compares to Turtle Wax Ceramic spray.
Andre told me it would last longer than Mother's, not sure about that Mother's lasted ok for me.
Expensive product in comparison to Turtle Wax and Mother's.
Was thinking of the Si02 paint sealant looks like that might be better.

 

[acuRAS82]

^^I don’t get 5 weeks out of Mother’s. It looks good and beads for 2-3 weeks and things go downhill fast from there.

So far WG has the CMX longevity beat in my testing, but it’s not an incredible water behavior product for me. The sealant is great.

 

[PeteT19640]

^^I don’t get 5 weeks out of Mother’s. It looks good and beads for 2-3 weeks and things go downhill fast from there.

So far WG has that beat for me, but it’s not an incredible water behavior product for me. The sealant is great.

Thanks
Maybe different environment although car is under cover. I get more than 2-3 weeks.
Sorry you say WG has that beat what do mean?
Do you think Si02 sealant is better?
Do you think Si02 better than 3.0?
To get the product for me is expensive by the time shipping and taxes are added.
Have you tried the Turtle ceramic?

I'm looking for a ceramic lite, so to speak.
I look for shine, long lasting durabilty, water beading. Well I suppose that covers what most people want.

What is your opinion on uber spray coating?
I thought that 1 year for the Uber Spray Coating.

 

[acuRAS82]

Thanks
Maybe different environment although car is under cover. I get more than 2-3 weeks.
Sorry you say WG has that beat what do mean?
Do you think Si02 sealant is better?
Do you think Si02 better than 3.0?
To get the product for me is expensive by the time shipping and taxes are added.
Have you tried the Turtle ceramic?

I'm looking for a ceramic lite, so to speak.
I look for shine, long lasting durabilty, water beading. Well I suppose that covers what most people want.

What is your opinion on uber spray coating?
I thought that 1 year for the Uber Spray Coating.

WG has passed (beat) 3 weeks in my testing. It’s at 6 weeks.
So far I like SiO2 sealant more, it’s really nice. I like it more than DGPS when I’m looking for self-cleaning. I’ve only used on a few panels.
I tried TW Ceramic Spray only on wheels to a friends’ car. It applied easily but I can’t say much else.
I tried Mckees 365 Ceramic Spray on half my wife’s car (on top of Cancoat) the other day and it looks very glassy. Haven’t seen water behavior yet. I wasn’t “wowed” by Mckees Ceramic Detailer and Ceramic Wax but hopefully this is better.
CanCoat is an option for you. IGL Premiere. Lots of choices of varying longevity and characteristics. Keep researching. WG CSC isn’t bad, I just haven’t gotten A+ water behavior.

 

[Coatingsarecrack]

Thanks
Maybe different environment although car is under cover. I get more than 2-3 weeks.
Sorry you say WG has that beat what do mean?
Do you think Si02 sealant is better?
Do you think Si02 better than 3.0?
To get the product for me is expensive by the time shipping and taxes are added.
Have you tried the Turtle ceramic?

I'm looking for a ceramic lite, so to speak.
I look for shine, long lasting durabilty, water beading. Well I suppose that covers what most people want.

What is your opinion on uber spray coating?
I thought that 1 year for the Uber Spray Coating.

Lots including myself have been extremely happy with Gyeon Cancoat. Car pros Cquartz lite is also popular but i haven’t used.

Go with Cancoat and you shouldn’t be disappointed. Depending on weather 9+ months seems easily attainable


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[PeteT19640]

Lots including myself have been extremely happy with Gyeon Cancoat. Car pros Cquartz lite is also popular but i haven’t used.

Go with Cancoat and you shouldn’t be disappointed. Depending on weather 9+ months seems easily attainable


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Thank you.
Does Cancoat bead longer?
What do you like about the WG Si02 over WGPS?