Rims on an '89 Jaguar XJS Cabrio

[SRHTX]

Hey Mike,

Will P21S Wheel Cleaner cause any problems to the rims on an '89 Jaguar XJS Cabrio? I'm trying to get so other things taken care of the Jag before we put it on the market to be sold. It looked like this before I got my client to repaint the whole exterior. It does not even have 15k miles on it.

This is what it looked like after its paint job:

I will also detail the engine when I detail the exterior one last time. This Jag does have the English engine. Not a GM engine. What do I need to worry about detailing the engine?

Oh, btw, Their '91 BMW 850I is also going to be sold. The BMW will be on the market before the Jaguar. I just had all 4 rims redone to make them look new. Engine, exterior and interior will have to be detailed. What do I have to worry about with the BMW's engine? It has about 115k miles on it.

Also, his is the 3rd vehicle that I have to get ready for the market. An '02 Lexus SC 430 - Neiman Marcus Edition

Friends body shop has to pull the front bumper cover off the car and repaint it. Also, there is a lil ding on the driver side door they will take out as well. After that happens, full detail. Engine and all.

 

[Matt]

The P21s gel should be safe on all wheel types so I think you're ready to go there.

Why is he selling those cars? Recession or getting new ones?

 

[SRHTX]

Why is he selling those cars? Recession or getting new ones?

Nope. Between him and his wife, they have 6 vehicles. The Jag never gets driven. That is why it looked so bad that I got him to repaint it. The BMW 850I has 116k miles on it and now, it sits there at the office. He drives the Lexus daily. That Black Caddy Truck has less than 5k miles on it. It sits there quite often.

Now, the Caddy is not leaving. He already has a new Lexus lined up. His wife has two Mercedes Benz.

This one (which I love). '05 S55:

and this one that has less than 4k miles on it and it really not driven much at all. '08 GL 550:

In the near future, the S55 will be sold for the NEW S Class MB when they come out. She does not want the NEW E Class AMG. She says that everyone has that car and it does not a top of the line Mercedes Benz. Don't ask LMAO icture: Doesn't make you feel bad not having that kind of money? :iagree:

 

[Gary Sword]

I love those old spoke wheels but they are a PITA to clean. P21s Wheel Cleaner should not cause a problem on them.

 

[SRHTX]

I love those old spoke wheels but they are a PITA to clean. P21s Wheel Cleaner should not cause a problem on them.

That is why those rims has a lil rust on them. The tires also went bad since the Jag was never driven. I ordered new ones and took it to my dads Ford Lincoln Mercury Dealership to put them on. They new have nitros air so the tires should not go bad.

 

[Matt]

Well I'm a student in college at the moment, but I've driven both those cars, infact drove a couple of GL's today, an E class and a brand new S500 (at my part time job).

My parents have a GL500 and a Lexus LS600hL so enjoy driving them when I get to (apart from detailing that Lexus, horrible paint! It will swirl if it sees dust- not to mention my mum took it through a touchless carwash a couple of times so NEEDING a Flex 230v buffer for christmas).

As for the S class, the new S class is out? Which one is she waiting for?

 

[SRHTX]

As for the S class, the new S class is out? Which one is she waiting for?

No. The new S Class is not out yet. I think they come out in 2011. I have to contact a good friend of mine, who is one of the top sells @ a Mercedes Benz Dealership, to find out when they will be on the market.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Hey Mike,

Will P21S Wheel Cleaner cause any problems to the rims on an '89 Jaguar XJS Cabrio? I'm trying to get so other things taken care of the Jag before we put it on the market to be sold. It looked like this before I got my client to repaint the whole exterior. It does not even have 15k miles on it.

At this point, nothings going to hurt those wheel. P21S offers two wheel cleaners, a spray and a gel, both are 100% Acid Free.

It's usually the acid in a wheel cleaner that can harm uncoated polished aluminum and magnesium wheels.

These wheels are chrome and most chrome wheel cleaners actually use acid because it's the most effective cleaner for brake dust. The acid based wheel cleaners will also remove the rust but if you don't do something to the bare metal after it's cleaned it will just rust again.

Clean and scrub the wheels good and be sure to tell the owner that once chrome is missing and the underlying steel starts to rust there's no product you can quickly and easily apply to fix and stop the problem.

Because these are spoke wheels, applying and working anything to the surface will have to be done with your fingers. So there goes the idea of doing anything QUICKLY.

Here's a cheater tip you can use, after you clean them really well, spray on some WD-40 and with your fingers and an old towel work the WD-40 over the bare metal portions and then wipe the wheel clean so there's no residue on the shiny chrome. This will keep the bare steel parts looking like steel, that's probably going to be black, and black against chrome will be less noticeable than rust/orange against chrome. You can also try agitating the WD-40 with a brush in-between the spokes. The problem is getting the bare metal coated so it won't turn orange a day or two after you clean it without leaving any WD-40 residue on the rest of the chrome to attract dust. And to do it in a way that doesn't take hours and hours and hours. Any kind of oily film would work, maybe try PAM or some other version of WD-40. Heck Baby Oil or Vaseline would work. It just has to soak in a little and provide a barrier against moister which is what will cause the bare metal to turn orange with rust.

Make sense?

Not the best solution but a jerry-rig solution but it will probably be in line with what your customer wants to invest into making the wheels look better so they are not a focal point by any prospective car buyer.

Rusting Chrome Spoke wheels are wheels that need to be replaced. --> $$$

Or just clean them and move one...

Hope that helps a little....

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

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[LincolnZephyr2006]

Man do you know how much he is asking for the 850i? Those are my favorite body style BMW's!!!

 

[SRHTX]

Thanks Mike :xyxthumbs:

At this point, nothings going to hurt those wheel. P21S offers two wheel cleaners, a spray and a gel, both are 100% Acid Free.

It's usually the acid in a wheel cleaner that can harm uncoated polished aluminum and magnesium wheels.

These wheels are chrome and most chrome wheel cleaners actually use acid because it's the most effective cleaner for brake dust. The acid based wheel cleaners will also remove the rust but if you don't do something to the bare metal after it's cleaned it will just rust again.

Clean and scrub the wheels good and be sure to tell the owner that once chrome is missing and the underlying steel starts to rust there's no product you can quickly and easily apply to fix and stop the problem.

Because these are spoke wheels, applying and working anything to the surface will have to be done with your fingers. So there goes the idea of doing anything QUICKLY.

Here's a cheater tip you can use, after you clean them really well, spray on some WD-40 and with your fingers and an old towel work the WD-40 over the bare metal portions and then wipe the wheel clean so there's no residue on the shiny chrome. This will keep the bare steel parts looking like steel, that's probably going to be black, and black against chrome will be less noticeable than rust/orange against chrome. You can also try agitating the WD-40 with a brush in-between the spokes. The problem is getting the bare metal coated so it won't turn orange a day or two after you clean it without leaving any WD-40 residue on the rest of the chrome to attract dust. And to do it in a way that doesn't take hours and hours and hours. Any kind of oily film would work, maybe try PAM or some other version of WD-40. Heck Baby Oil or Vaseline would work. It just has to soak in a little and provide a barrier against moister which is what will cause the bare metal to turn orange with rust.

Make sense?

Not the best solution but a jerry-rig solution but it will probably be in line with what your customer wants to invest into making the wheels look better so they are not a focal point by any prospective car buyer.

Rusting Chrome Spoke wheels are wheels that need to be replaced. --> $$$

Or just clean them and move one...

Hope that helps a little....

 

[SRHTX]

Not sure how much my client is going to ask for the 850I. Do not get me wrong, it's a nice car BUT, he took it to a college body shop. They repainted the whole car, hint hint..... I've taken it over to my friends body shop and he is going to check some things out and correct some of the issues. It runs fine, do not get me wrong. I'm just going to post it on Craigs List down here. It will sell quickly since it's a BMW. :dblthumb2:

I will take pics of the BMW, Jag and Lexus. The usual Before and After stuff, of course. rops:

Man do you know how much he is asking for the 850i? Those are my favorite body style BMW's!!!