Rinesless wash in garage ... how to get the tires clean??

[Joe@NextLevelDetail]

Ok so I thought I would try the rinseless wash again. I have only really done it on the paint. Which actually comes out pretty good.

Tonight I wondered if I could do the whole car in the garage without soaking the floor and get the tires clean.

So I did the whole car got that looking good. Then I used APC and sprayed the tires and the rims. I let that sit for about a minute. Using a stiff brush I scrubbed the tires and saw the foam turn brown and thought it was working pretty good. Clean the rim like usual with the brushes and all. I pretty much used the wheel brush to grab clean water and go over the tire and rims.

I dryed the tire and the rims with a towel. I thought it was going to come out looking real good.


well ... when the tire dried it went back to looking brown and not black like I had hoped.

How do you all do a rinseless wash with tires and actually get them clean? I didnt use Super Degreaser because I was a little worried I couldnt rinse it off well enough.

Thats my second question... how do you make sure that you rinse it off well enough from the tires and rims when doing a rinseless wash on a floor that you dont want to flood?

also when doing a rinseless wash does anyone tackle in inner wheel? and if so .. really how to do you rinse that out??

I know that there is a mobile detail shop around here that only does the rinseless wash and they have no access to water or pressure washer.. they take like 2 or three buckets prepared with ONR and water. So somehow they get it done and I am just not sure what the right way is with this.

I always see people doing it on the car .. but I never see anyone doing on the tires and rims with a rinseless wash.

Thanks for the help!

What kind of tire dressing do you use?

Water Base Or Solvent Based?

If you used solvent based tire dressing, This can be your answer. While Solvent based tire dressings do last a long time. Most solvent based tire dressings can make cleaning a tire a nightmare.

 

[Paul A.]

I like the new McKee's Tire And Rubber Rejuvinator. I do a Meg's Super Degreaser clean first and then follow that with the McKee's product. That Mother's product looks similar as suggested by ski2. The key for me is to scrub the tire sidewalls enough times to get the product suds clear. That may take several applications on dirty tires.

You could also lay down some old bath towels around the bottom of the tire to keep the garage floor relatively dry. Or as JustJesus mentioned, some old ratty MF towels.

 

[dcjredline]

somehow I missed it ... sorry about that ... I try to respond to everyone that posts.

I have not tried eco touch and really I have never heard of it before.

This does good for tires?

Ive had good luck with it on tires. Joe brings up a good point. I only use water based tire dressings and it cleans very well, nice black tires

 

[RMarkJr]

I might be mistaking you for someone else, but weren't you the guy who wanted to go mobile in an other thread? You said you had a garage, so how come you are doing it outside? If your garage has no water management system or drain, what you could do is wash the car outside then pull it in the garage and dry it there before you do the rest of the detail. What you will want is good lighting on every wall and ceiling, and air conditioning would help a lot if it's really hot and humid.

I am mobile and working in the heat is no fun. Got a heat stroke last year and almost got a second one about 2 weeks later. If you have a garage, use it!

LOL yes I am that guy ... annnd I have since removed the mobile detailing option. If I can get used to doing this in the heat or find a better way to do it, I might add it back laters

 

[RMarkJr]

For tires, you need to reapeat the cleaning process until the foam stays white. If you can't do it on the first pass there are usually two reasons:

1. Your degreaser is not strong enough. If you are using Meguiar's Super Degreaser, 4:1 is what I use and it will to it in 1 pass the vast majority of the time. A trick I use is to add a squirt of dawn soap in my 32 oz bottle for tires so that I can get a lot more suds. It helps keep the cleaner on the wheel instead of dripping down on the floor as well.

2. You might not be agitating enough or your brush is too soft. Make sure to give it a good 30 seconds or more, and agitate in multiple directions : Circles going around the entire tire, left to right, up and down is what I do.

I know Mike likes to use a DA to clean the tires, but to me that seems way too slow. I would have to try it but the idea of having to use a DA doesn't appeal to me. But you could try it and see how it works for you. You might prefer that method.

hmm I will have to try the dawn dish soap. The suds and making it stick to the tire makes sense to me and I dont see how that wouldnt be beneficial.

 

[RMarkJr]

This is the real deal!! No need for water and it cleans tires better than an APC and a bucket. I've also found dressings last longer when the tire is cleaned with Mothers Back to Black Tire Renew.

Ok I guess I am going to have to try this stuff. I wonder if I can find this locally somewhere

 

[RMarkJr]

What kind of tire dressing do you use?

Water Base Or Solvent Based?

If you used solvent based tire dressing, This can be your answer. While Solvent based tire dressings do last a long time. Most solvent based tire dressings can make cleaning a tire a nightmare.

I have been using the Meguiars Hyper Dressing as I tire shine. However I dont know what the customers have been using as I havent had a lot of repeat customers yet. No because I suck or anything, but because this is a brand new business venture for me lol

 

[RMarkJr]

I like the new McKee's Tire And Rubber Rejuvinator. I do a Meg's Super Degreaser clean first and then follow that with the McKee's product. That Mother's product looks similar as suggested by ski2. The key for me is to scrub the tire sidewalls enough times to get the product suds clear. That may take several applications on dirty tires.

You could also lay down some old bath towels around the bottom of the tire to keep the garage floor relatively dry. Or as JustJesus mentioned, some old ratty MF towels.

Ya I thought about using some towels down to catch the water.

When you are doing the Super Degreaser are you rinsing that off with a hose? or are you using some kind of pump sprayer or rinseless wash with a brush?

 

[RMarkJr]

Ive had good luck with it on tires. Joe brings up a good point. I only use water based tire dressings and it cleans very well, nice black tires

Ya I will have to see about trying that out and the tired dressing I use is Megs Hyper Dressing. But I dont know what customers are using before they bring it to me.

 

[ducksfan]

You can use dish soap if you want. But, they make hand pump sprayers that foam. Kwazar makes a good one and one of the Tolcos (The one with the rotating head) has a foamer (Plus, it's a great rinsing hand pump sprayer).

Oh, a big plus one on the Mother's Back to Black Tire Renewal.

 

[supercharged75]

Super Degreaser on the tires scrub with tuff scrub tire brush. Soft flad tip wheel brush on wheels. To rinse I dunk the soft brush in my rinse water and splash my solution to start rinsing. I then use a bottle of ONR diluted at 256 to spray rinse with minimal water. Then dry with towels as normal.

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[Scottie Brown]

I have found that Megs Hyper Dressing is pretty decent stuff but have been using Chemical Guy's VRP (Vinyl, Rubber, Plastic) when I really want the tires to shine, and it works really well. I spray the clean tires with Megs Hyper Dressing first and rub it in with a tire towel, then use the Carrand Brush & Shine Tire Dressing Applicator and coat the sidewall with a thin layer of VRP (the stuff goes a long way with very little). This brings out an amazing shine. I give it a light once over with the towel after to make sure there is no residue left. It cleans easily the next time I do the tires and keeps them looking new for a long time.

I've honestly been wondering how to clean the tires without water or a huge mess as well so am glad you asked. I'm really interested in the Mother's Back to Black now as I've seen it but didn't know if it was any good. Usually I just use a hose but when I don't have hose access on a mobile call, it's good to have a plan B. The Improvising you have to do sometimes when you're mobile really leads to some great invention haha. Thank you everyone for some great info in this thread!


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[Setec Astronomy]

When I started this I knew I was going to be hot .. but I didnt expect to literally feel bad the entire day after doing a job.

I would like to move more into the garage with as much as possible. I am getting an electrician out here Thursday for some quotes on more electrical outlets and installing enough lights to blind me. Also I have been looking into air conditioning units for the garage and some fan set ups as well.

Indoor with great lighting and air conditioning is going to be the best, but if you are working outside, and you feel that bad the next day, as others have alluded to...make sure you are staying hydrated, drink before you are thirsty, etc.

 

[idriveblackcars]

Since I have been doing in doors rinseless washes I also have been thinking of the best ways to tackle the wheels wells and wheels/tires.

I do these areas last and usually just spray the wheel wells down with a car shampoo/water mix in a spray bottle. Works pretty damn well no different than if I would have foamed the wells outside.

My wheels are coated so I just use the remaining rinseless soulution with my usually wheel woolies and brushes. I don't put many miles on the car so maybe my tires do not get as dirty and discolored as other vehicles.