Rinseless wash help

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So i have a customer w/o a water source. I am going to give ONR a shot.


what do i use to get water to the customer? (arrowhead jugs would be quite unprefessional i am thinking).


I have a bmw 5 series, so i can't get a giant water tank.


thanks for the help :righton:
 
He doesn't have a kitchen sink? That is all you need to just fill up a bucket, then use ONR and your gold!
 
A 5 gallon bucket with a gamma seal lid should work to transport your ONR solution. You can get one at AG.
 
ONR is an awesome product. Very easy to use. If your car has a lot of grime on it you may want to spray it off at your local coin-op car wash. To me, there isn't a better wash for protecting and enhancing a waxed/sealed vehicle.

There are lot of tutorials for how to use ONR or rinseless wash. I prefer using DP's 4in1.

Here is a review of the process my our very own MikeyC.....

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Rinseless car wash soaps are a relatively new innovation and create quite a bit of flexibility in terms of washing conditions. Due to rinseless washes not requiring a hose car washing can be done conveniently in the garage during winter, at an apartment complex, on a road trip in a parking lot, or in an area with water use restrictions. Additionally, rinseless wash soap combined with water in a spray bottle makes an excellent, cost effective clay lube spray and quick detailer.



Keep in mind that when using a rinseless wash you do not want foam in your wash solution as it will make the drying phase more difficult. Rinseless wash soap typically will not foam much. However, to avoid having any foam at all be sure to fill your bucket with water first and then add the soap.



Never ever place your wash mitt on the ground.



What you’ll need . . .

  • Water – you’ll need approximately 4-6 gallons of water.
  • (2) 5 gallon buckets – be sure your buckets are clean. Buckets which have been used for other uses may have chemical residue on their surface which could enter the wash solution and be harmful to the LSP or paint.
  • Grit Guard(s) – at least one grit guard will be needed. The Grit Guard will help to assure dirt stays in your rinse bucket and does not get trapped in your wash mitt where it would be rubbed against the paint. One Grit Guard in your rinse bucket is good, but one in your rinse bucket and one in your wash bucket is even better.
  • (2) Genuine sheep skin wash mitts – synthetic wash mitts are not as soft and will cause marring in your paint. So, be sure to buy genuine sheep skin mitts. Sheep skin mitts do a great job cleaning and have knap which will hold dirt particles away from the paint during washing. However, sheep skin mitts also release dirt better than any other type of wash tool once placed in the rinse bucket. Use one mitt for the top half of the car and a second mitt for the bottom half of your car to help prevent marring. Boar’s hair brushes are also popular but cost quite a bit more than a sheep skin mitt.
  • Rinseless car wash soap – your choice of rinseless car wash soap. There are three rinseless car wash soaps currently available Protectall’s Quick & Easy Wash, Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine, and Detailer’s Pride 4-in-1 Rinseless Wash.
  • Microfiber waffle weave towel – while any type of microfiber towel will work for drying, waffle weave towels are the most absorbent type of microfiber towel. There are many great waffle weave towels available such as the Cobra Ultimate Guzzler and Big Blue II.
  • 32 oz. Spray bottle – mix together some of the rinseless wash soap, 1-2 ounces of Quick Detailer, and some water (preferably distilled water) in a clean spray bottle. Never re-use a spray bottle that has been used for a different chemical as harmful residue may remain in the sprayer.

How to get it done . . .


1.Fill two buckets with 2-3 gallons of water and place your Grit Guard at the bottom of the bucket which will be the rinse bucket. If you have two Grit Guards place one in each bucket.

2.Add the rinseless car wash soap to the wash solution bucket.Please note: rinseless wash soap does not foam.Follow the manufacturer’s instructions of how much soap to add to the wash bucket.

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3.Spray the panel to be washed with the water/rinseless wash/QD solution in the spray bottle. Pre-treating the panel with this solution will help to float the dirt away from the paint and therefore reduce marring.

4.Dip your wash mitt into the wash bucket. If you are washing indoors give the mitt a light squeeze to remove excess water. This will prevent the excess water from ending up on the floor.

5.Using the mitt wash one panel of the car. Move the wash mitt in straight lines following the direction air flows over the panel. Start with sections at the top of your car and work toward sections at the bottom.

6.Place the wash mitt in the rinse bucket after washing a panel.

7.Dry any water on the area just washed using your waffle weave microfiber towel. Do not drag the towel over the car’s paint. Instead, blot the water with the towel. This will help to reduce marring caused by the drying process.

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8.When you are ready to wash the next section of the car take the wash mitt out of the rinse bucket and squeeze some of the water out.

9.Continue to wash the car using the technique outlined in steps 3-7 until the entire car has been cleaned. If using two wash mitts be sure to switch to the second wash mitt when cleaning the lower half of the car.
 
If there's truly no water source around, get a lid for your bucket and bring the water with you. You could always buy some of those 5-gallon jugs of water from places that sell them.

Good choice on the ONR. I prefer it over 4n1. ONR is more concentrated for washing so you're only using half of what you'd use with 4n1. Plus, IMO ONR smells a little better :)
 
mshu7 said:
If there's truly no water source around, get a lid for your bucket and bring the water with you. You could always buy some of those 5-gallon jugs of water from places that sell them.

Good choice on the ONR. I prefer it over 4n1. ONR is more concentrated for washing so you're only using half of what you'd use with 4n1. Plus, IMO ONR smells a little better :)
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I had no idea ONR was more concentrated! Thanks mshu!
How do you like it as a QD?
4in1 is pretty darn good.
 
For washing, 4n1 calls for 1oz. per 1 gallon. ONR calls for 1oz. for 2 gallons. It might not sound like a lot, but it's 50%. The other dilution ratios are about the same.

I've still got about 3/4 gallon of 4n1 but I only use it now in a 3 gallon sprayer to rinse wheels and pre-treat extra dirty areas when I'm doing an ONR wash.

I haven't used it yet as a QD, just because I still am trying to use up the 1.5 gallons of Meg's Detailer Last Touch. I have used it as a clay lube and it performs just as you'd expect.

Overall, I'm very happy with ONR and this is after having used 1/4 gallon of 4n1 previously.
 
Home Depot has 5 gallon buckets with lids. I just used them for an ONR wash on a customer vehicle last saturday. I actually prefer to bring my bucket full so then I can get warm water and bring it with me... works better than cold.

Some of the 5 gallon buckets at Home Depot are semi transparent and they have marks in the bucket for each gallon of liquid. Very handy for mixing proper ratios
 
You can also buy gallon jugs of distilled water at your local grocery story for like $.80 a jug. I can't believe no one has mentioned this.
 
JBs said:
what do i use to get water to the customer? (arrowhead jugs would be quite unprefessional i am thinking).
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67Customs said:
You can also buy gallon jugs of distilled water at your local grocery story for like $.80 a jug. I can't believe no one has mentioned this.
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Arrowhead is bottled water. For some reason the OP doesn't want to use them.
 
I use DP 4in1 via 3 gallon sprayer 1-2 times during the week. As an apartment dweller, this works very well. I also have a bucket with a lid and recommend it for transporting waterless wash products.:autowash:
 
Feed back pleaseHi Im new to detailiing but I love it as a hobbie (addiction). I wanted to ask what does ONR stand for?
 
Thank you for your help. Is optimum the brand name?:xyxthumbs:
 
Yes, Optimum is the brand. There is Optimum No-Rinse Wash & Shine (commonly ONR) and Optimum No-Rinse Wash & Wax (commonly ONRWW). There are also several other brands of rinseless wash, including Blackfire, Ultima, Detailer's, Duragloss, Meguiar's, etc.
 
You should be using the 2 gallon method anyways so just put the 2 gallons of water in one and one in the other. Throw your mf pad or grout sponge in the bucket with the ONR in it and let it soak during transport. This is the reason why rinseless wash is the best. Now if you don't have a lid you can just get 4 gallon empty milk jugs and fill them with water and transport the water like that too.

Sent from my SPH-M930 using AG Online
 
Check out the Garry Dean wash method. Its a lot easier to transport a bunch of wet rags than a bucket full of water.
 
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