Rinseless Wash Thoughts -- Feedback Wanted

hollerstiltner said:
I do almost the exact same thing. I wash our vehicles with ONR and about 10MF towels each. Since I never put a dirty towel in my ONR it never gets dirty. Once the wash is done I just fill my spray bottle with the old solution and use it as my presoak for the next wash.

If the car is real dirty I may add an extra shot of ONR to the presoak.
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The extra shot of ONR is a good idea. I have always pre-soaked with ONR at QD dilution which is 1:16 I believe.
 
good idea and keeping it should be just fine as long as you are RW regularly. I was putting the leftover in a gallon jug after each RW this summer and then re-using for the next RW, but in the summer I don't do RW as much and the solution would get a little funky if it sat in the jug too long. Maybe if I would have kept it inside, it wouldn't have been as bad, but it sat out in the heat/humidity.

I've been using a mixture this winter of DGRW diluted 1:64 (0.5:32) in a spray bottle. A few ounces in there have sat in my closet for about a month and seems just fine, so climate control might be the key.
 
I mix rinseless a gallon at a time and add to the bucket when and if needed. So I'm only throwing away something less than a gallon.

I spray a couple of panels at a time with waterless, wash with rinseless, spray with Aquawax, then dry.
 
There is no one way to wash. I evaluate each car's need and hybrid wash many different ways. Some need a rinse or extra presoak, some don't. Sometimes I pressure wash the wheels and only need to waterless wash the body.

I really like Garry's common sense approach to rinse less. Keeping the dirt out of the solution frees you up to use the solution anyway you need to. No Rinse Wash & Shine is awesome on interior surfaces including nav screens and ever headliner grime so there is never a reason to dump it if clean.




Chris Thomas
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ONR is also great to clean your glasses, your computer screen, your IPad, tile floors, and around your house at 1:16. It sure beats Windex or any traditional cleaners your will pick up at the grocery store.
 
swanicyouth said:
^^ Yeah, I do that. But I use waterless in a spray bottle and rinseless in a bucket.
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Me too. IME nothing approaches Ultima WW+ for the pre-soak. ONR or UWW+ at rinseless strength are my favorite rinseless washes. . I only use products with NO nubaa.
 
I kept leftover ONRWW in my gamma seal lid bucket for 1 week. When i used it again, it seems to have lost some of its "power".

Maybe because I used tap water instead of distilled? Distilled water here is around $1 per gallon. Not economical in my opinion :)
 
I just started with the rinseless wash and I have been trying different techniques. I like the idea of a presoak with a waterless product. This would probably be very helpful in the winter with a heavy road salt buildup.
 
DogRescuer said:
You guys talk about a "presoak", what do you mean?
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Hello DogRescuer,


Presoak is basically spraying the rinseless solution into the panel you are about to clean. The theory behind this is that the rinseless solution would soften up the dirt that when you wipe at the panel, there is lesser chance of scratching with softer dirt.
 
Presoak is to treat the area with a waterless product and let it sit for a while. Let the product do most of the work of loosening the dirt.
 
Every week, I try a new way of doing rinseless wash. Here is the latest I did:
- presoak whole vehicle with ONRWW rinseless dilution
- cleaned every panel with a MF-covered sponge
- dried each panel with a slightly damp shine & buff towel

It worked good for me, but my MF-covered sponge was black after. I did not feel any dirt on the sponge, it looked like dirt stains. Any ideas on MF-covered sponges for rinseless?
 
I've been doing rinseless washes for about 7 years, using both ONRs, Ultima, Meguiar's and Duragloss, constantly trying different media and technique.
Here's what I'm doing now:
If extremely dirty, such as salt-sprayed in the winter, I'll pre-soak with a pump sprayer. My media of choice is a Meguiar's or Blackfire MF mitt. I've tried the MF-covered Bone sponge, MF noodle mitts, grout sponge and MF towels. What I like about my current mitts is how easily they release dirt with just some hefty shaking in the wash bucket. I'll use them as a pad, not a mitt, doing 4 passes with the mitt, reversing direction on the same side while slightly lifting the dirty leading edge from the previous pass, then flipping the mitt for 2 more. Then the mitt gets a vigorous shake in the solution to dislodge any loose dirt.
Depending on the temp and sunlight, I may do a single panel or multiple panels before the next step. I'll follow up with a plush MF towel to blot large spots, spread out the solution and act as a backup in case I missed a spot. That towel gets constantly wrung out and reused, unless it did pick up any dirt. Next step is either a final pass with a drying towel or application of a drying aid, followed by wiping with a dry towel. I never use my dedicated drying towels when using any drying aids, as I don't want to compromise my drying towels with any chemicals or waxes.

With regard to your question of a dirty sponge, even with my technique, my white mitts will still be slightly greyed after the wash, since not every single microscopic piece of dirt is released. After a few washes, they'll never be pure white again, even after a cycle through the washer, but I've never found that to cause any swirls or marring.

Also, if I've only done one car with a bucket of solution and it wasn't too dirty, I may give the solution a day for the dirt to settle below the grit guard, then scoop out some clear solution from the top and fill my sprayer for the next pre-soak job.

There's a zillion ways to wash a car, but this seems to work well for me and two of my fleet are dark, one Black and one Dark Burgundy.

Bill
 
I just saw and bought these on a local Ace hardware: http://zwipes.com/product/microfiber...cleaning-mitt/

Planning to use it for rinseless in the weekend:
- presoak whole vehicle with ONRWW rinseless dilution
- clean every panel with this new mitt
- dry each panel with a slightly damp shine & buff towel

Anyone else tried this mitt? I looked at their website and it was actually posted under "home", not "automotive". :D
 
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