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Gungho_15

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So, detailing my moms blue Honda Fit. There were a few deep scratches that i wet sanded with 2500grit. Passenger side Rear quarter panel there was a strange looking spot. I hit it with the 2500 grit for 2 passes and then I saw blue in the water from the sand paper. Instantly felt sick and knew. Sure enough there must have been a flaw in the clear coat as I rubbed through. So disappointed! Guess I am going to a body shop tomorrow to get it repaired :(
 
Guess you got a little too gungho...sometimes you just have to let those scratches be.
 
I just noticed on the door, that I went through an entire ridge the whole length of the door also. Thats just from using a DA. Orange pad and 105. I don't think I will be able to polish this car EVER again. If the clear is already this thin, its a lot thinner now!
 
with a clean pad, that had the proper amount of product on it for lubrication. I just dont see how you could get through the clear that easily. Unless the pad was dirty, or you were polishing in the direct sunlight holding a heatgun to the paint as your scrubbed away...
 
Once again these are comments that cause me to not want to be a part of this site and forum. Why would I make this kind of sh*t up? It pisses me off that I tell my side of the story and guys doubt you. What I explained happened! I'm not happy about it. I'm pretty disapointed that I'm going to be out of pocket a large chunk of money to get the damage repaired. Thanks for your ignorance and doubt.
 
I wonder if someone possibly sanded the spots before you.

Sorry that happened to you!!:(
 
Gungho_15 said:
I just noticed on the door, that I went through an entire ridge the whole length of the door also. Thats just from using a DA. Orange pad and 105. I don't think I will be able to polish this car EVER again. If the clear is already this thin, its a lot thinner now!
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Yes this is quite possible, paint is thinnest in high spots (ridges, body lines, etc.) and along edges. It is best to tape these spots off when compounding. I am sorry to hear of your misfortune. It's admirable of you to share this experience in hopes of helping others.
 
Gungho_15 said:
Once again these are comments that cause me to not want to be a part of this site and forum. Why would I make this kind of sh*t up? It pisses me off that I tell my side of the story and guys doubt you. What I explained happened! I'm not happy about it. I'm pretty disapointed that I'm going to be out of pocket a large chunk of money to get the damage repaired. Thanks for your ignorance and doubt.
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Sorry to hear about your dilemma.

Its always good to either try a small test area and get a feel for how much clear you can remove whether its by wetsanding or compounding..or even better invest in a paint gauge and check out the surface before doing anything.

If the car is older, used, or you don't know the history its possible the car has been compounded before you ever got to it.

Plus, the imports have very, very little clear on them from the factory anyways.
 
Gungho_15 said:
Once again these are comments that cause me to not want to be a part of this site and forum. Why would I make this kind of sh*t up? It pisses me off that I tell my side of the story and guys doubt you. What I explained happened! I'm not happy about it. I'm pretty disapointed that I'm going to be out of pocket a large chunk of money to get the damage repaired. Thanks for your ignorance and doubt.
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No one said you made anything up. People that have been doing this for a while were just making sure that what you were really seeing was strike through. No need to get your panties in a twist. There are a lot of people here that want to help, and it's hard to know exactly what happened just from a quick written description without seeing pictures. I'm sure there are a lot of people here that would be willing to verify what you think happened if you took a few pictures and posted them up. who knows, maybe you didn't actually burn through the paint and there is another reason for the odd appearance.

That said, I think the worst thing to do on discussion boards is get super defensive when people ask questions. Since you can't hear the tone of someone's voice on a forum, it's hard to tell if they are being helpful, sarcastic etc. but it certainly isn't the best practice to assume they are being mean-spirited and get all upset.
 
I feel your pain - Bill Clinton

I feel your paint -Mike Phillips


Seriously, I feel your pain... been there done that, taught me to try to never do it again. Also taught me to try to help others to avoid it...


The only time I ever go on a rant on a forum is over the topic of factory thin paint.

Car manufactures just don't care that they don't put enough clear paint on their cars to enable "us" to work on them safely over time.


One thing I tell people goes like this,

When hiring a detailer, you want to hire a person that has made mistakes because as long as they have learned from their mistakes chances are very good they won't repeat them in the future.



Another way of saying this is,

Try to hire a detailer that has made mistakes on other people's cars so they won't make them on your car.


Point being, you've made an investment in your future, you now know what not to do.


Hang in there buddy,



:cheers:
 
buddhadog said:
I wonder if someone possibly sanded the spots before you.

Sorry that happened to you!!:(
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I think this is going to happen more and more with the new surge of detailers adding wetsanding to their resume

I agree with Setec. Sometimes you have to know when to let it be

Sorry this happened to you. Sucks BIG TIME!
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
I feel your pain - Bill Clinton

I feel your paint -Mike Phillips


Seriously, I feel your pain... been there done that, taught me to try to never do it again. Also taught me to try to help others to avoid it...


The only time I ever go on a rant on a forum is over the topic of factory thin paint.

Car manufactures just don't care that they don't put enough clear paint on their cars to enable "us" to work on them safely over time.


One thing I tell people goes like this,

When hiring a detailer, you want to hire a person that has made mistakes because as long as they have learned from their mistakes chances are very good they won't repeat them in the future.



Another way of saying this is,

Try to hire a detailer that has made mistakes on other people's cars so they won't make them on your car.


Point being, you've made an investment in your future, you now know what not to do.


Hang in there buddy,



:cheers:
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^^
Great post and great insight Mike!
 
Flash Gordon said:
I think this is going to happen more and more with the new surge of detailers adding wetsanding to their resume

I agree with Setec. Sometimes you have to know when to let it be

Sorry this happened to you. Sucks BIG TIME!
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Yeah, but the lesson here is--if you have a scratch, and it's deep, sanding it isn't the solution, Dr. Colorchip is, i.e., putting more paint on, not taking it off.
 
I refuse to sand anything personally,I'm not taking the liability of it. If a bodyshop wants to sand a car down, that's fine, it's on them.

TO the OP: Setec is exactly right, experience will tell you to just let certain scratches go. Best you can hope for is to round the edges and make them less noticeable, but especially on a daily, I wouldn't ever wetsand it. Live and learn.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
sometimes you just have to let those scratches be.
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Exactly!

A couple years back, I tried to wet sand a scratch on a Lexus IS250, and went right through the clear, down to the primer! It was THEEEEEEE WORSTTTTTTTTTT feeling having to call the client! To this day, the only thing I'll wet sand is headlights.
 
I feel your pain.

I have a 2009 Honda Fit - tried to smooth out a few scratches in the passenger side door. Apparently I didn't have my GG DA parallel to the door and my orange pad/M105 combo went through to the primer in two passes.

Still feel sick just thinking about it.

Thinnest paint - ever.
 
That's why I have a personal disdain for Honda paint. I used to have a 2007 Civic Si in Fiji Blue that just looked awesome, but it would get swirls if you just looked at it lol.
 
last302 said:
I feel your pain.

I have a 2009 Honda Fit - tried to smooth out a few scratches in the passenger side door. Apparently I didn't have my GG DA parallel to the door and my orange pad/M105 combo went through to the primer in two passes.

Still feel sick just thinking about it.

Thinnest paint - ever.
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Geeeez... That is some thin paint! What the heck?? I'd say almost boderline defective.
 
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