RUPES 2" Backing Plate not for use with the rotary connector and the RUPES Nano iBrid

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RUPES 2" Backing Plate not for use with the rotary connector and the RUPES Nano iBrid in Rotary Mode


RUPES 2" Backing Plate and 2" Pads not for use in Nano iBrid in Rotary Mode

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After reading through the instruction manual I could find little information about the RUPES Nano iBrid its accessories or directions on how to use it with its various accessories. There are no statements or warnings about using the 2" backing plate and 2" buffing pads on the Nano iBrid in the included documentation.

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Since I couldn't find any information available on the RUPES website or in the iBrid instruction manual, being a car guy and a detailer, AFTER testing the iBrid out with the 1 1/4" pads with both the 3mm orbit connector and the 12mm orbit connector, I decided to test it out with the 2" pads.


I installed the rotary backing plate connector to the Nano iBrid and then when I installed the 2" backing plate to the rotary backing plate connector after tightening it down till it was snug the backing plate was in contact with the shroud and the backing plate would not rotate.

I figured something is wrong with this picture so I spoke with Todd Helme about this and he brought me up to speed. Here's what Todd told me, this is a paraphrase from our phone call conversation...



Todd Helme said:
"The 2" backing plate and 2" pads are for use with the 12mm and 3mm Eccentric Sets only.

The 2" backing plate and 2" pads are NOT for use with the Nano iBrid as the RPM is too high and the risk of damaging paint is to high.

Only use the 1 1/4" backing plate and pads with the rotary backing plate connector and the Nano iBrid"
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Thank you Todd for the information and clarification. Anytime a new tool is introduced to the market there's a normal period of time of questions and answers.


So just a heads up...

If you were wondering about this topic or if you know someone that purchased this tool, share this info with them.


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Thanks for clearing that up Mike!
I've been using my ibrid longneck all day on a Harley motorcycle and and really enjoying the 12mm orbit!
Correction level is great and very surprised at how long I can get from a battery charge
 
Impressions said:
Thanks for clearing that up Mike!

I've been using my ibrid longneck all day on a Harley motorcycle and and really enjoying the 12mm orbit!

Correction level is great and very surprised at how long I can get from a battery charge
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The tool worked great with the 1 1/4" pad using the 12mm and 3mm eccentric sets. I have some pictures to show the iBrid in action that I'll post when I can get to it.


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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
The tool worked great with the 1 1/4" pad using the 12mm and 3mm eccentric sets. I have some pictures to show the iBrid in action that I'll post when I can get to it.
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Just to clarify, Mike it's the 2" pads in rotary mode that are not to be used, correct? Because I tried the tool in 12mm DA mode with a 2" pad, as did others, as handed to us by the Rupes rep. We were told that the 3mm DA mode is primarily intended for sanding.
 
This is correct - you can use the 34 and the 50mm plate with either of the eccentric sets, as well as the PSA backing pad for sanding.

The only combination that is not recommended is the 50mm plate with the 70mm pad on the rotary mode.
 
Dylan@RUPES said:
This is correct - you can use the 34 and the 50mm plate with either of the eccentric sets, as well as the PSA backing pad for sanding.

The only combination that is not recommended is the 50mm plate with the 70mm pad on the rotary mode.
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Sorry, not to muddy this further...but Mike is saying 2" backing plate and you are saying 50mm plate and 70mm pad. 70mm is almost 3"...is that how big the big pads are? They don't look that big. Or are they really 50mm at the Velcro and 70mm at the foam end?
 
maybe there should be a link or file to download for this new info in the event someone purchases these and does not come across this info
 
I find it always best to reference the metric measurement. Not only is it more precise, but its the unit of measure used in design and manufacturing as well, but I digress.

The backing plate is just under 2" (50mm = 1.9685") which mates up exactly with the back of the pad (50mm) and flares out to 70mm at the face (a little over 2.75+")

The smaller plate is 30mm with pads that are flared out to 40mm
 
I didn't realize any of the 3 BP worked with the green adapter except for the 2 brushes
But mines sent back on it way for exchange
 
Dylan@RUPES said:
I find it always best to reference the metric measurement. Not only is it more precise, but its the unit of measure used in design and manufacturing as well, but I digress.

The backing plate is just under 2" (50mm = 1.9685") which mates up exactly with the back of the pad (50mm) and flares out to 70mm at the face (a little over 2.75+")

The smaller plate is 30mm with pads that are flared out to 40mm
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Metric is fine for me, I simply get confused because all (I think) of your pads have that pronounced taper which means the backing plate is a significantly different size than the business end of the pad. So I was just uncertain what the actual size of that larger pad was; that's interesting that it does approach the size of the Griot's Garage 3" pad.

Thank you for clarifying that. What was the name of the gentleman from your company who was the Nano "handler" at Phil's?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Metric is fine for me, I simply get confused because all (I think) of your pads have that pronounced taper which means the backing plate is a significantly different size than the business end of the pad. So I was just uncertain what the actual size of that larger pad was; that's interesting that it does approach the size of the Griot's Garage 3" pad.

Thank you for clarifying that. What was the name of the gentleman from your company who was the Nano "handler" at Phil's?
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Jason?
 
Thanks Mike.

I think you found yourself another book to write. A supplemental book on the nano to go along with the Rupes book.
 
and thats why ill be going back to the competition ready detailing class... cant wait to use this new ibrid thank you dylan and todd and mike
 
Well that just doesn't make sense. There is a speed dial and a trigger so why is "Rupes" protecting me from damaging my stuff. Only reason I can see is machine not strong enough for 2" in Rotorary mode (what a false).
 
Crispy said:
Well that just doesn't make sense. There is a speed dial and a trigger so why is "Rupes" protecting me from damaging my stuff. Only reason I can see is machine not strong enough for 2" in Rotorary mode (what a false).
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There are other factors to consider, but first you have to think in terms of scale. The inertia of that 70mm pad humming along in rotary mode is pretty high (in scale) - in rotary mode obviously you are in direct drive. Motor spins, pad spins; but it works both ways - pad spins, motor spins. Introduction of that much inertia (again in scale for the size of the tool) is going to carry the pad rotation beyond when the trigger is released - long term this is bad for the motor and all the linkage that goes to it. The direction of the thread can also be considered. The rotation coming to a stop could, with enough force from the pad, could begin to un-thread the adapter or the plate from the tool.

There are a host of reasons you shouldn't run the 70mm pads in rotary these are some others to consider that also don't matter if you keep the pad in contact with the surface, but as a tool manufacturer you have to (unfortunately) also consider how people will MISuse things and protect against those scenarios as well. Afterall, everyone says they're a 'professional' but I'm sure we've all met plenty of 'professional detailers' that make us wonder how they even tie their shoes in the morning ;)
 
This is part of an insert that started being added to the Nano kits as well, to provide some guidance on what configurations were recommended. If anyone received and early production version of the tool and needs a copy of the pdf for their records please send me an email [email protected] , I'll be happy to send it over.

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Good information. I'm still waiting on the second batch of long necks to reach our shores. This is one of the reasons I didn't buy the first batch. I wanted all the "gremlins" to be worked out. But I am ready to buy one now.
 
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