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Zephir and Keramik has better cut and finish than both Mille and Rotary compounds and polishes, the newcomers have a watered down Meguiars type feel to it, must be Jason Rose input me thinks.
The new polishes have more lubricants which may make them feel “watered down”.
I can't imagine the new compounds actually having less cut than Zephir. That stinks!
I have tested them extensively across all machines and different paints.
Marginal not massively, it seems they “dumbed” it down on gear driven and rotary. However Zephir and Keramik cut and finish really well on random orbital, gear driven and rotary. Also Zephir and Keramik smell a whole lot better too unlike the cheap chemical smell the others have.
I'm gonna give Zephir a shot on Rotary/Wool. I always cut with microfiber on my 15 MK2 and every time I've tried using Zephir with microfiber I'm always dissappointed with the amount of correction especially on harder paints. It's wipe off has never been very easy for me either.
I have tried it with the coarse blue rupes foam pad but those pads and even the green rupes pads have just terrible durability.
Zephir dusts with the blue Rupes, have you tried it with BnS flat Yellow or Meguiars Burgandy? If not it works well with those. If you looking for massive amounts of cut, unfortunately Rupes abrasives are not it, they do finish impressively though. Zephir reminds me alot of Scholl Concepts S3 Gold XXL in cut and finish. Keramik and S20 Black are similar too.
Zephir dusts with the blue Rupes, have you tried it with BnS flat Yellow or Meguiars Burgandy? If not it works well with those. If you looking for massive amounts of cut, unfortunately Rupes abrasives are not it, they do finish impressively though. Zephir reminds me alot of Scholl Concepts S3 Gold XXL in cut and finish. Keramik and S20 Black are similar too.
The burgundy Meg's pads do cut good. I really like the white Boss pads with Fast Correcting Cream on the long throw machines, if that doesn't do it I'm reaching for my rotary and wool.
You and I may have our differences Ron, but I was literally about to say the exact same thing. Zephir reminds me a LOT of S3 Gold XXL except Zephir smells better and S3 Gold XXL finishes better and wipes off a little easier on softer paints.