Sealant over a Glaze

[umi000]

Here's my article on this topic...

Miscible and Immiscible - Wax and Paint Sealant Bonding


This is one of those topics that always generates a lot of interest but I always think of what my friend Tom aka Mosca wrote years ago...
Excerpt...

My good friend, Tom aka Mosca as he's known on detailing discussion forums, once posted,




I would have to agree with Tom.


The same topic came up here recently...

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/43743-ensure-tight-bond.html

If it slipped off, you probably wouldn't notice it, Mike On DW, where one of the members used laboratory scientific equipment to measure the typical thickness of wax (it tends to stabilize at around 20 nm), he estimated that if you have a car with a surface area of 10 square meters, that wax layer would form a ball 7 mm in radius

Well, if the wax layer thickness is 20 nm over the entire surface of a car, and we assume a surface area of 10 sq m (on the large side for a car) then removing all of the wax from the car and forming it into a ball would make a ball of radius no more than 7 mm - wouldn't make much of a pool!

That said, I do agree with what you've written, and would say that far too much thought goes into this - follow the manufacturer's instructions, or just try it out and see for yourself what happens

 

[silverfox]

For future reference...CGs Blacklight is a Glaze/Polish/Sealant AIO...and a good sealant (3-4 months average). Similar in looks to Blackfire Wet Diamond with about the same longevity in my experience using them. It can also be topped with any wax. I compared this to Optimum's G-P-S/Poli-Seal, and I would say that GPS definitely has more cut/swirl removal ability, but Blacklight is likely to have better longevity (assuming GPS has same longevity as Poli-Seal). Both Great products.

The EZ Creme Glaze actually has an added benefit not found on the instructions...its a great post-polish cleaner as well as a glaze...and perfect to apply after polishing to provide a good foundation for any LSP with added gloss.

 

[embolism]

....Durability is also a subject where "stuff doesn't always work like people think".
Bob

only time I need durability is in the winter so I take no chances using glazes or hybrids or whatever flavour of the month is all the rage. It's the DG's, Klasse's or Collinites for prep.

most I need for the other month's is a month tops if that... everyone here already knows why (you are all similarly afflicted)

 

[yank194]

Glad to hear you now have a PC. Also glad you're planning on trying the Wolfgang products.

I've a couple of questions, though.
-Did Sal also impart any info regarding Zaino products being applied using a PC?
-Was that info ever requested of him, by you, or other Zaino users?

Thanks in advance for your response.



Bob

You can use the PC, but it is not recommended bc I saw in another post Sal said it would be a waste of the Zaino product. The whole "less is more" concept. He does suggest using a PC when you use his product that removes swirls. Sorry, I forgot the name.

I love the Z product line, but I also have an open mind and want to try other products. I used the Fuzion on top of the Z products and it looked great. Can't wait to use the PC w/the WG products. Bought Mike's book.....truly awesome!

 

[KneeDragr]

I used EZ cream on my Merc and then followed it up with WG 3.0- It looked great but I don't think the durability has lasted the same as it did when I just used the 3.0 by itself. My 3 cents( I try to give more than the average Joe, that's why you got 3 cents from me)

Same experience here, significantly reduced durability if using a glaze. .

 

[FUNX650]

You can use the PC, but it is not recommended bc I saw in another post Sal said it would be a waste of the Zaino product. The whole "less is more" concept.

It seems that flys against the arguments, and recommendations that using a PC will allow for thinner, more evenly spread applications...Ergo, The whole "less is more" concept, in practice.

Yet, as you stated, not using a PC for Zaino products (except for the swirl remover) is Sal's advice...Following that is an individual's choice, after all.



Bob

 

[dtuna42]

It seems that flys against the arguments, and recommendations that using a PC will allow for thinner, more evenly spread applications...Ergo, The whole "less is more" concept, in practice.

Yet, as you stated, not using a PC for Zaino products (except for the swirl remover) is Sal's advice...Following that is an individual's choice, after all.



Bob

I think the "waste" talked about in using a DA to apply the product is in loading up the pad. There should still be a thinner coating left on the paint than by hand.