Sealant Rates

SRHTX that is the first I have heard anyone suggest putting a nuba on before a sealant. Isnt the theory of both to have a sealant properly bond to the paint for the durrability and the nuba on top to make it golw like nubas do?
If it works for you then great but I havent heard any science behind that one.
 
PAR Detailing said:
SRHTX that is the first I have heard anyone suggest putting a nuba on before a sealant. Isnt the theory of both to have a sealant properly bond to the paint for the durrability and the nuba on top to make it golw like nubas do?
If it works for you then great but I havent heard any science behind that one.
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Like I said, that is what the folks at Optimum advised me.
 
I just cant understand putting the nuba on first, after you put the sealant on then you loose the look that the nuba gives you. There is pretty much no point in the nuba then. As PAR said, this is the first time I have heard of anyone suggesting this.
 
Dubbin1 said:
I just cant understand putting the nuba on first, after you put the sealant on then you loose the look that the nuba gives you. There is pretty much no point in the nuba then. As PAR said, this is the first time I have heard of anyone suggesting this.
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Well, tomorrow I will put the Fuzion on AFTER the sealant was applied.

Here is what the GL550 looked like with out sealand:

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I will take pics of it in the same area after I finished the new detail.
 
Also, again, those Lexus were very new. After I clayed, I just did the carnauba and sealant. After 30+ minutes, I could have gone back to place another carnauba on the vehicles.
 
wow i'm totally lost here. 1st. you guys don't charge any one for a sealant? the time it takes to put it on, take it off and more importantly, the 12 hr. cure time, that is tying up your garage to the point you cant do other cars. 2nd. wax under sealant, this is new to me to. i don't see how the sealant will stick to the car, if the wax is on to protect it. if the wax only last a few weeks, wont the sealant that is supposed to last up to 6 months, come off to? i'm not a pro, i just go by what i have learned here, and that is totally blowing my mind.
 
cooksnj said:
wow i'm totally lost here. 1st. you guys don't charge any one for a sealant? the time it takes to put it on, take it off and more importantly, the 12 hr. cure time, that is tying up your garage to the point you cant do other cars.
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You don't have to wait 12hrs to give the car back ;)
 
Opti-seal from optimum claims is able to move under a layer of nuba and bond with the paint if applied on top or wax... If my memory serves me correctly

This maybe why to them it is faster to wax then seal
 
We usually only wait 8 hours for the sealant to cure, before we wax over it. It has never been an issue. As far as the sealent goes thats a new one to me too. If you apply paint sealent over a wax then its a wax sealent I would think.
 
Optimum Opti-Seal

"Incredible shine, slickness, and value!

Optimum Opti-Seal is a revolutionary paint protection formula that creates unmatched slickness and gloss with just a few drops per vehicle. One ounce completely seals and protects 4-5 cars! This product leaves no residue and requires no buffing. Enjoy months of durable polymer protection with just drops of Opti-Seal.
Optimum Opti-Seal is a true paint sealant with no cleaning properties. It seals and protects paint under a crystal clear barrier of cross-linked polymers. Dirt, moisture, oil, and UV radiation are all sealed out of the paint to maintain optimum gloss. It is a spray sealant that provides the durability of traditional sealants in minutes.

The science behind Opti-Seal is incredible. The hyper concentrated polymer sealant begins cross-linking as soon as it hits the paint. Opti-Seal flashes almost immediately to leave a polymer film on the paint. Opti-Seal is not a short-cut product. It is a state-of-the-art, stand-alone spray sealant that provides real, durable protection for paint, plastic trim, and wheels. This is a last step product, not a maintenance product. After polishing, apply Opti-Seal and walk away. Opti-Seal is the only paint protection your vehicle needs.

Opti-Seal is crystal clear in the bottle and on the paint. Applied very thinly, it will not streak or cloud. Simply spray, wipe, and walk away. Opti-Seal leaves absolutely no residue to buff off. Paint protection couldn’t be any easier!

Opti-Seal contains no fillers or cleaners. This is a true paint sealant. If your vehicle has some light imperfections, use Optimum Poli-Seal or Optimum Polish for removing oxidation and any other paint correction. Top the smooth, shiny finish with Opti-Seal for added protection and gloss. Opti-Seal can also be used as a base coat under Optimum Car Wax or any other car wax.


  • Application tips:
  • Use very sparingly. Opti-Seal is made to be applied in a thin layer.
  • Always use a clean and dry applicator to spread Opti-Seal over your vehicle.
  • Prep the paint before applying Opti-Seal. Remove any swirls or imperfections beforehand because Opti-Seal is a true paint sealant with no cleaners or fillers.
"
 
SRHTX your pasting states "Opti-Seal can also be used as a base coat under Optimum Car Wax or any other car wax."

That means that optimum recommends putting down the nuba AFTER the sealant.
 
well, lets see what the MB will look like when I'm done with the exterior tomorrow.

I will clay it, DP MaxWax, Opti-Seal, take pictures THEN DP MaxWax it again.

Will that work?
 
A better comparison, wash and clay the whole car and cut the hood in half. One side try opti-seal followed by maxwax, the other maxwax followed by opti-seal.

The real question I have is on the durability...does wax over sealant or sealant over wax last longer?
 
cooksnj said:
wow i'm totally lost here. 1st. you guys don't charge any one for a sealant?.
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I am referring to additional cost for putting a sealant on instead of a wax. In m y site I have sealants marked up but I often just apply it at the same rate as a wax. And most dont care about having both so ya there is "optimal" curing time but nothing says that has to be in my garage... theirs works just as well too lol

Jon
 
JonMiles said:
The real question I have is on the durability...does wax over sealant or sealant over wax last longer?
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Good question. I would have to try that on my own Mazda 3s. I will be driving from Deep South Texas to Seguin/New Braunfels, TX mid May. I know the highs down here are now in the mid 90s. Also, going through the King Ranch, my vehicle will hip many many bugs. I do not know when we will be getting rain again. I might be able to work on my car this coming Sunday. Again, "might".
 
Sounds good, looking forward to finding out which lasts longer. I guess we will know in a couple months.
 
JonMiles said:
One side try opti-seal followed by maxwax, the other maxwax followed by opti-seal.
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Driver side - maxwax followed by opti-seal

Passenger side - opti-seal followed by maxwax

This will be done on my Mazda. Not the Mercedes.
 
SRHTX said:
Driver side - maxwax followed by opti-seal

Passenger side - opti-seal followed by maxwax

This will be done on my Mazda. Not the Mercedes.
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Sounds great man,

I think just for the sake of replication and comparison i'll do the same on my truck with powerlock and p21s. It might be that one combo performs better than the other and it could be a learning experience.
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Looks would be another thing because face it guys, we use nuba for the looks not the durability. That's just something we will have to trust Stephens eyes on since pictures wont do any good.
 
JonMiles said:
Sounds great man,

I think just for the sake of replication and comparison i'll do the same on my truck with powerlock and p21s. It might be that one combo performs better than the other and it could be a learning experience.
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Correct. It's rare if/when I get a chance to clean my own vehicle. My lil ride will look sad for a while after it gets detailed again The next wash I do will be with ONR.
 
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