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Purchased a bottle of essence. Should have done even more reading as I am now wondering if essence plus was the better option. I've got a new vehicle with some dealer installed minor marring. I am not going to coat, so maybe plus would have been better, and then top it with a spray sealant during my washes.

Thiugts on this? Worst case I buy it as well and have both. Just thinking maybe this would have been a good one step.

How well does plus fill on non coated paint?

thnaks for listening as well as your input.
 
Purchased a bottle last year and was really eager to work with it. On paper it Is an amazing product. In real life, I hated every second of it. It does a really good job, the paint will look fantastic when you are done, but trying to buff that product out of the panel is an exercise in patience. You have to rub like crazy with your microfiber towel to get all this stuff out. Although my clients were really happy, I do not plan to use this product anymore. If you are not a pro and this is for your car, I think you will love the result. Just be ready to use a lot of elbow grease to clean off the panel when you are done buffing.

Essence will fill in all the scratches it is not taking out. It is supposed to last a year on it's own. I would suggest you top it off with a sealant once it has cured. Reload would be the preferred product since it is also a SiO2 based product and is fully compatible with Essence.
 
You may need both as Plus will fill only micro marring as it has no abrasives and only durable resin fillers with some protection (SIO2). Essence does have some fine abrasives and acts like a primer for CQuartz (ceramic coating).
 
Calendyr said:
Purchased a bottle last year and was really eager to work with it. On paper it Is an amazing product. In real life, I hated every second of it. It does a really good job, the paint will look fantastic when you are done, but trying to buff that product out of the panel is an exercise in patience. You have to rub like crazy with your microfiber towel to get all this stuff out. Although my clients were really happy, I do not plan to use this product anymore. If you are not a pro and this is for your car, I think you will love the result. Just be ready to use a lot of elbow grease to clean off the panel when you are done buffing.

Essence will fill in all the scratches it is not taking out. It is supposed to last a year on it's own. I would suggest you top it off with a sealant once it has cured. Reload would be the preferred product since it is also a SiO2 based product and is fully compatible with Essence.
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I wonder why you had so much trouble removing Essence? I know your an experienced detailer and that's why I'm puzzled. Did you use a suede towel to remove?
 
Calendyr said:
Purchased a bottle last year and was really eager to work with it. On paper it Is an amazing product. In real life, I hated every second of it. It does a really good job, the paint will look fantastic when you are done, but trying to buff that product out of the panel is an exercise in patience. You have to rub like crazy with your microfiber towel to get all this stuff out. Although my clients were really happy, I do not plan to use this product anymore. If you are not a pro and this is for your car, I think you will love the result. Just be ready to use a lot of elbow grease to clean off the panel when you are done buffing.

Essence will fill in all the scratches it is not taking out. It is supposed to last a year on it's own. I would suggest you top it off with a sealant once it has cured. Reload would be the preferred product since it is also a SiO2 based product and is fully compatible with Essence.
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I could not have had a further experience. I have gone through three bottles of Essence and it has never given me any problem. It remains the easiest product to wipe off paint next to Blackfire Wet Diamond that I have ever used. I gave away almost all my other polishes.

OP - you made a fine choice. Essence plus is more of an LSP than regular Essence is. You can top regular Essence with whatever you want. I have tried a few sealants in addition to coatings and have had no ill effects.
 
Im a weekend hack and essence is amazing. If you cant wipe if off, run over it again and lighten up on the last pass. Dont overwork it. Wipes off easy for me.
 
atgonzales said:
Essence is AMAZING...
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This! I haven't had a product I'm more in love with than essence. Only time I had difficulty removing it is when used a MF PAD and made too many passes or passes with pressure. Foam pad I could work the bejesus out of it and it wiped off easier than any polish I've ever tried.

Essence is a good primer, but also has protection built in as well. At this point I try and convince all my clients to let me use essence as my finishing polish.

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Thank you all so much. I'm assuming that essence doesn't have much cut? Is there really a reason to have plus on hand, for a "retired" detailed who now just likes his cars to look their best?
 
Essence can be used as a "cutting" compound if you have a Japanese car with super soft paint. On anything else, it's the last stage of polishing pretty much.
 
Messing around w/ Essence on a Megs MF finishing disc a while back. For me, it's a very easy product to use and almost effortless wipe off.


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BTLew81 said:
Thank you all so much. I'm assuming that essence doesn't have much cut? Is there really a reason to have plus on hand, for a "retired" detailed who now just likes his cars to look their best?
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Doesn't have too much cut, but you can make it more/less with the appropriate pad. Need more cut....using a cutting pad, want less cut using a finishing pad, or anything in between.
 
I use Essence a lot and love it. Here is some information I found on the CarPro Forums a while back explaining the best way to use Essence. I follow these steps pretty closely and get good results.

For fine finishing, do not prime the pads when using CarPro Essence.

Essence is quite unique, and differs from other polishes you may be used to .

For Essence:

- Do not prime your pad
- Use 2 small dots of product (perhaps 3-4 small dots on first pass with clean pad)
- Spread product quickly onto working area at machine speed 1
- Begin your first pass at a moderate speed (say around 4 on BOSS) with medium pressure
- Make 1-2 slow passes at this moderate speed with moderate pressure (ie up & down, then left to right)
- Make 1 final pass at a slower speed (2.5-3) with no pressure
- Wipe residue away (there should be very little since so little product was used to begin with)
- Clean pad & repeat on next section

If you use too much product, or work it too long it may be a bit difficult to remove, or you may see slight marring. The abrasives break down very quickly (just a couple passes), and you need very little product.

Once you get the hang of it, the process is very quick and easy!

Essence on a Scholl Concepts Neo Honey Spider, Megs MF, or a CarPro gloss pad USUALLY works very well!

Some light marring with Essence is possible on the very first section. When this happens try adding a few more drops of polish and hit the area again. Some paints are more susceptible to marring with a dry pad.

If you're using a microfiber cutting pad, you're probably looking to maximize cut. In this instance, lightly prime the MF pad with Essence, and use 2 small dots of product for each working section.
Again, clean the pad after each section.
 
Rsurfer said:
I wonder why you had so much trouble removing Essence? I know your an experienced detailer and that's why I'm puzzled. Did you use a suede towel to remove?
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I don't know. I used it 3 times last year. First time I did the usual polishing technique of priming the pad, adding 2 dime size peas per panel and doing 4 complete passes. Then people told me to use a lot less product so on the second time I did not prime the pad and used only the 2 dime size peas per panel. It helped but it was still very hard to remove. Finally I was told to try doing only one or 2 passes instead of 4. Did not see that much difference. Each time the result was spectacular, but detailing is hard enough as it is without having to work like crazy to clean the panels.... at least for me. I still have about half a bottle left, not sure I will use it. ;(
 
I am wondering if my bottle was bad. Very strange to me that everyone finds it super easy to remove. Not using MF, always using B&S polishing pads with this product on a Bigfoot 21 with a 5" BP and 5.5 inch pads. Very very odd!
 
It took Flex speed 4, firm pressure ,2 passes on a Carpro gloss pad to make it act like an easy polish.
When I compared it to Hyper-polish with a white Force pad it looked the same. I used every light I had to check because I wanted to believe the hype.

I ended with SF4500, black Force pad on 2.5-3 and results were perfect.
 
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