Shout out to all you mobile guys

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I've been very lucky so far. All of my details have come to me. Due to some work going on at my house, I'm down to one garage bay, and it will only fit a small SUV, not the Denali I had to do today. Just trying to remember everything I'd need, packing it all up neatly was a chore, and then unpacking it and getting it all back on the shelves just added to it. I give you guys tons of credit. People probably just think about the time you spend at their location, not the prep before and the cleanup after. Big props to all of you who are out there grinding it out day after day.
 
I'd like to think it's a good trade off every time I think about somebody writing a rent check.
 
I love the relaxing pace I can work at as a hobbyist.

When I think of the pros, especially mobile guys, I actually cringe.

Not an easy profession to say the least. I have all the respect in the world for the pros.
 
I love the relaxing pace I can work at as a hobbyist.

When I think of the pros, especially mobile guys, I actually cringe.

Not an easy profession to say the least. I have all the respect in the world for the pros.

You can't even imagine the stress associated with trying to run all over town(s). Our service area isn't huge, maybe 15 miles in radius, but it's like typically 20-30 minutes from job to job. Try cramming 5 or 6 jobs into a day. After a year, our pace is better and it's much easier to set realistic appointment times, but those first few months were very trying and a real learning experience. We had three jobs today, we were actually early for all three by 5-10 minutes. That rarely happens.
 
So, everything that has been brought up in this thread I would consider manageable. A little effort, a little experience and in a reasonable amount of time you get it down. The deal breaker for most (assuming you can do a decent job of running a business and are of the character that people will want you around) is being out in the weather. I would be running a Mobil detailing business right now if I thought I would be alright with that aspect of it - I’m not.
 
So, everything that has been brought up in this thread I would consider manageable. A little effort, a little experience and in a reasonable amount of time you get it down. The deal breaker for most (assuming you can do a decent job of running a business and are of the character that people will want you around) is being out in the weather. I would be running a Mobil detailing business right now if I thought I would be alright with that aspect of it - I’m not.

Yet another factor that is a challenge. Good point.
 
It takes a certain level of dedication to your craft to do this job when it's 105-110* outside. For us, it's about two months of hell. It's almost over and then we have 10 months of pretty stellar weather.
 
You can't even imagine the stress associated with trying to run all over town(s). Our service area isn't huge, maybe 15 miles in radius, but it's like typically 20-30 minutes from job to job. Try cramming 5 or 6 jobs into a day. After a year, our pace is better and it's much easier to set realistic appointment times, but those first few months were very trying and a real learning experience. We had three jobs today, we were actually early for all three by 5-10 minutes. That rarely happens.

That's why I only do big jobs. Traffic is really bad in Montreal. The typical commute time is 30-40 minutes to get to the client, and I have taken as long as 2 hours to come back from a client if they are in a very bad part of town.

So for me, doing quick low paying job is simply not worth the effort, time and expense for the commute.

As a side note, the major thing I love about being mobile is the fact that if business slows down, I have no stress. With no rent payments, employes to pay and other expenditures linked to fixed location, if I don't get calls, those are basically days off for me.
 
That's why I only do big jobs. Traffic is really bad in Montreal. The typical commute time is 30-40 minutes to get to the client, and I have taken as long as 2 hours to come back from a client if they are in a very bad part of town.

So for me, doing quick low paying job is simply not worth the effort, time and expense for the commute.

As a side note, the major thing I love about being mobile is the fact that if business slows down, I have no stress. With no rent payments, employes to pay and other expenditures linked to fixed location, if I don't get calls, those are basically days off for me.

I wouldn't call the jobs we did today quick or low paying. My opinion only though.
 
Do you mobile guys have jobs that will take all day? I would imagine that a full detail inside and out with cleaning, leather treatments, hot water extraction, tire coating, paint correction and coating would take a full day even with 2 guys. Do you accept jobs like that and charge accordingly?
 
All day? LOL Seriously, I've never run across anybody wanting to spend that kind of money, I wish. People will typically break those jobs up into smaller, more affordable chunks. My pricing for is set up to end up being $70-75/hour when there's two of us on the truck, when I'm by myself it works out to $50-55. For example, if we're there for four hours, the charge is going to be right around $300. There's SO MUCH competition here that if you price yourself any higher you won't book many jobs.

As an example, yesterday, we had two washes first thing in the morning (maintenance, every other Saturday). 1:45 and they paid $120 (they don't tip ever, they don't even talk to us. The cars are in the driveway, the keys are in them and a check is on the seat). Then we went and did a full exterior detail, spot cleaned a few interior stains and headlight restoration. The vehicle was a 2011 Cadillac SRX in pretty awesome shape. Total time was 2:30. She paid $225 with tip. Our last job was two mini details which is wash and wax on two Cadillac CT6s we regularly maintain with no set appointments. They paid $175 with tip. Time on that job ~2:15 but we spend a lot of time talking to the wife because she's super nice and pretty attractive. So $520 yesterday in 6:30 of working time, not including travel, works out to $80/hour which is right where I like to keep the truck rate after tips. Total travel time was probably 45 minutes as our first and last job were really close to home.

Those are typical of the jobs we get. Some people might say I'm a car washer, but my average ticket is a little north of $150. A lot of the guys I know in this business say they do 85% washes for under $50. I've had four tickets under $60 in the last two weeks, one was a paint transfer removal on a bumper that took me 20 minutes and I charge $50 minimum for getting a buffer out and touching your car with it, one was a $50 headlight restoration for a neighbor (I normally don't do HR ala carte. I offer it, but I usually sell it with some kind of wash service).
 
Do you mobile guys have jobs that will take all day? I would imagine that a full detail inside and out with cleaning, leather treatments, hot water extraction, tire coating, paint correction and coating would take a full day even with 2 guys. Do you accept jobs like that and charge accordingly?
I only accept a mobile detail that could potentially run through to the next day, if the client is notified that it could take longer. If the client requires paint correction I recommend they bring it in. Most often, a mobile detail for me means 3-4 hours and usually consists of a complete interior and a basic wash. It also helps to have some extra stuff. For example, I keep and extra extension cord. One for mobile, one for stationary. This can save time on prep and cleanup. Just leave your extras in the work vehicle when applicable.

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All day? LOL Seriously, I've never run across anybody wanting to spend that kind of money, I wish. People will typically break those jobs up into smaller, more affordable chunks. My pricing for is set up to end up being $70-75/hour when there's two of us on the truck, when I'm by myself it works out to $50-55. For example, if we're there for four hours, the charge is going to be right around $300. There's SO MUCH competition here that if you price yourself any higher you won't book many jobs.

As an example, yesterday, we had two washes first thing in the morning (maintenance, every other Saturday). 1:45 and they paid $120 (they don't tip ever, they don't even talk to us. The cars are in the driveway, the keys are in them and a check is on the seat). Then we went and did a full exterior detail, spot cleaned a few interior stains and headlight restoration. The vehicle was a 2011 Cadillac SRX in pretty awesome shape. Total time was 2:30. She paid $225 with tip. Our last job was two mini details which is wash and wax on two Cadillac CT6s we regularly maintain with no set appointments. They paid $175 with tip. Time on that job ~2:15 but we spend a lot of time talking to the wife because she's super nice and pretty attractive. So $520 yesterday in 6:30 of working time, not including travel, works out to $80/hour which is right where I like to keep the truck rate after tips. Total travel time was probably 45 minutes as our first and last job were really close to home.

Those are typical of the jobs we get. Some people might say I'm a car washer, but my average ticket is a little north of $150. A lot of the guys I know in this business say they do 85% washes for under $50. I've had four tickets under $60 in the last two weeks, one was a paint transfer removal on a bumper that took me 20 minutes and I charge $50 minimum for getting a buffer out and touching your car with it, one was a $50 headlight restoration for a neighbor (I normally don't do HR ala carte. I offer it, but I usually sell it with some kind of wash service).
That sounds like a perfect business model for a mobile guy. You can make more money by serving as many customers as you can in one day with your standard services. I was wondering if any of your clients request heavy paint correction with a nano coating. I know that a full compound, polish and coating is very time consuming.
 
We tend to stick to one steps that may also require some minor heavier correction. We're not adverse to doing a two or three step, but for most people's daily driver, we're selling a job that's pretty good and very affordable. I did three one steps last week, this is one, I posted another one in the what did you do detail related thread.

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I mean for most people, this is more than adequate. As for coatings, I've only done like five and I tend to reserve those for newer vehicles that need little to no correction. There's absolutely no shortage of brand new vehicles to work on, I don't feel like I need to chase coatings that are super time consuming. But, again, I'll do just about anything that somebody wants to pay for. This is a maintenance wash on a new X3 that we coated.

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BTW, that F-type was absolutely beat. The guy bought it at night, got it home and then saw it in the morning and was super disappointed at his purchase. It was swirled to hell and already oxidizing. Here was the test spot I did for him before he scheduled the appointment. Disregard the small amount of debris that my son didn't wipe off good before he took the pic. LOL

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BTW, that F-type was absolutely beat. The guy bought it at night, got it home and then saw it in the morning and was super disappointed at his purchase. It was swirled to hell and already oxidizing. Here was the test spot I did for him before he scheduled the appointment. Disregard the small amount of debris that my son didn't wipe off good before he took the pic. LOL

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Was that test spot with just a polish and a white pad?
 
I had some business in Manhattan today and I saw this on 43rd Street. A mobile setup with two guys. One guy does the soaping and the other guy does the rinsing. The Chevy truck has a water tank and a generator.
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