Single stage paint, Toyota Tundra. Chalky much?

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I feel like this is going to be the first of many Tundras I correct.... All white Tundras have the same exact fading issue. Come to find out, they use single stage paint and it just becomes oxidized over time and needs a polish.




The claying part was the most interesting to me. This truck is driven through the boondocks then parked at the refinery parking lot so it had tons of contamination and oxidation to chew through.




Product list




CG Citrus wash to strip
Nanoskin medium mitt and pad, pad used on GG3
CG Clay lube
HD Polish on Boss g21 and Rupes Mini
Blackfire Trim sealant
CG Jetseal




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I just did one of these on Friday. Truck sat in El Paso driveway for years, now back in Austin. Had to go to FG400, tried AIO (xmt360) and polish (205) w poor results. Went through almost 20 orange pads as it gummed up fast.
 
austinz said:
I just did one of these on Friday. Truck sat in El Paso driveway for years, now back in Austin. Had to go to FG400, tried AIO (xmt360) and polish (205) w poor results. Went through almost 20 orange pads as it gummed up fast.
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I used about 10 orange 5.5" and 4 of the 3". I was surprised how easily it burned off with HD polish. still had scratches here and there but wasnt that noticeable being white
 
Done so many here in south fla,camrys and accords sequoia.
 
The last chalkmobile was a 2002 Toyota Corolla.

Process went, wash, decontaminate with Iron-X, clay, then apply Meguiars #7 very heavy and leave it on overnight in the garage. The #7 "nourishes" the paint and and recharges some of the dried out oils. If the paint was very chalky you might even want to wipe off the first coat with a rough terry towel and re-apply the #7 again. After you are satisfied with the amount of #7 being absorbed then you can polish the paint as required to bring back the shine. After you get to that stage you can apply whatever you want. Wax or coating.

Mike has a very good write up of the #7 process. he has brought back cars that everyone felt needed a repaint.

Read this

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...w-car-finish-antique-single-stage-paints.html

The truck looks great! But without nourishing the paint back to something close to what is was when sprayed it will turn back to chalk really soon.
 
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Didn't know such a "new" or "newer" truck would use a single stage process.

What other vehicles of the last 5-10yrs still use Single Stage Paint?
 
Nice work!


Just to note...


There are a few car companies that have in the past and might even today still be producing white cars with single stage urethane paint. The pigment type for white paint is titanium dioxide powder and this creates a paint that is very corrosion resistant. Note how a lot of jets are painted white? That's because it will last a long time with minimal care.

There's nothing wrong about single stage paint and in fact it can be a blessing because clearcoats will FAIL and the ONLY way to fix clearcoat failure is to repaint the car. $$$$


Single stage paints will oxidize and ANYONE can fix oxidation.


Now just keep her polished and waxed and the paint will probably outlast you!


:D
 
If its the refinery I'm thinking of... That parking lot probably doesn't help the chalkiness.
 
I have a 2005 Tundra in white since new. It will oxidize quickly if you don't keep,it waxed as Mike said. That being said,I looks really good when it's shiny,as good as white can anyway. I do mine 3-4 times a year,been thinking about trying a sealant to cut down on that.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Nice work!


Just to note...


There are a few car companies that have in the past and might even today still be producing white cars with single stage urethane paint. The pigment type for white paint is titanium dioxide powder and this creates a paint that is very corrosion resistant. Note how a lot of jets are painted white? That's because it will last a long time with minimal care.

There's nothing wrong about single stage paint and in fact it can be a blessing because clearcoats will FAIL and the ONLY way to fix clearcoat failure is to repaint the car. $$$$


Single stage paints will oxidize and ANYONE can fix oxidation.


Now just keep her polished and waxed and the paint will probably outlast you!


:D
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Mike, have you tried a coating on SSP if so, will it last as long as if it was applied to clear coat?
 
Nice write up! Great 50/50 shot. Truck came out very nice! Good work!!
 
I've always had the same issues with my truck. After polishing a few years back, I ended up coating it. That has kept it from getting the chalky look ever since.
 
I believe all Toyota true white non pearl paint is single stage. I think Honda also uses SS paint on its non pearl whites as well..Many people don't know how to care for it so seeing newer Toyotas and Hondas with chalky paint is pretty common around me.
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
Nice work!


Just to note...


There are a few car companies that have in the past and might even today still be producing white cars with single stage urethane paint. The pigment type for white paint is titanium dioxide powder and this creates a paint that is very corrosion resistant. Note how a lot of jets are painted white? That's because it will last a long time with minimal care.

There's nothing wrong about single stage paint and in fact it can be a blessing because clearcoats will FAIL and the ONLY way to fix clearcoat failure is to repaint the car. $$$$


Single stage paints will oxidize and ANYONE can fix oxidation.


Now just keep her polished and waxed and the paint will probably outlast you!


:D
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Has anyone taken before after depth measurements? I have done a couple of these vehicles prior to getting a depth gauge. Now that I have one I am nervous to do the same process as the ones before. I am measuring a white Toyota Camry at 1.7mils (average depth) I know the single stage paint is tougher but do I need to be concerned with how little paint is left to be messed with. I have the advantage of seeing and measuring the vehicle prior to the appointment so I have not tried anything yet. Mike if you would also weigh in on this I would appreciate it.

Thank you!
 
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