Sonax Polymer Net Shield

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvd0cT8ubeM]Sonax Polymer Netshield beading sheeting - YouTube[/video]
 
This looks pretty impressive. I've been using Colli 845 for so long and nothing else that I'm really anxious about trying new protection products and this one has peaked my curiosity--especially hearing that it can be a coating topper.
 
That's the most incredible example of sheeting (surface tension) that I've ever seen...including the few coatings I've tried. If that doesn't convince folks that sheeting trumps beading EVERY time, nothing will. The car was practically dry after running water over it.

Simply outstanding!..and it looks almost carnuba like as well...
 
That did it! Sheeting is in, beading is out! I've got to get me some of this stuff!!
 
That's awesome I might try this!


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I have it on my car for three months. It does sheet rapidly during rain but it will leave behind enough beads to look as if a high end wax has been used. Class leading water behavior, adds significant gloss to the paint, anti static to a good extent. Exceptional LSP in most respects.
 
The other day I received the Net Shield and the Sonax quick detailer to go along with it. I followed all the instructions I've learned here and at other sites. There is no way to spread this stuff smoothly - it wants to grab the paint regardless if you apply it with a microfiber pad or sponge pad (my car was washed and prepped with P21S Paintwork Cleanser). There is also no way to buff it off without also grabbing. I used it sparingly, did only a small section square at a time and buffed it off right away. I tried fine napped sealant removal towels (Griot's), medium (Meguiars Supreme Shine) and plush (Chinchillas) all to no avail - everything wanted to grab and I was unable to put it on or take it off smoothly no matter what I tried.

I won't use Brilliant Shine detailer until after the first wash so I can't comment on how slick or not it is. As far as looks I have to say that after two coats (15 hours apart) it looked no better or worse than a dozen other products. It was nice but not a "WOW" factor kind of product. Net Shield may bead great and protect for a long time but there are other products that do the same with easier application, not to mention at a much lower price.
 
Shortspark said:
The other day I received the Net Shield and the Sonax quick detailer to go along with it. I followed all the instructions I've learned here and at other sites. There is no way to spread this stuff smoothly - it wants to grab the paint regardless if you apply it with a microfiber pad or sponge pad (my car was washed and prepped with P21S Paintwork Cleanser). There is also no way to buff it off without also grabbing. I used it sparingly, did only a small section square at a time and buffed it off right away. I tried fine napped sealant removal towels (Griot's), medium (Meguiars Supreme Shine) and plush (Chinchillas) all to no avail - everything wanted to grab and I was unable to put it on or take it off smoothly no matter what I tried.

I won't use Brilliant Shine detailer until after the first wash so I can't comment on how slick or not it is. As far as looks I have to say that after two coats (15 hours apart) it looked no better or worse than a dozen other products. It was nice but not a "WOW" factor kind of product. Net Shield may bead great and protect for a long time but there are other products that do the same with easier application, not to mention at a much lower price.
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Brilliant Shine Detailer is not very user-friendly, either. It has a thick consistency and does not apply or remove like a traditional QD. I've started applying it with a well wrung out, damp MF towel (with distilled water is possible) then follow up with a dry one. It makes application and removal much faster and easier.

Regarding PNS, yes it's an even bigger pita to apply and remove. I get the best results when using a MF applicator. I've though about trying it damp like the Brilliant Shine, but I think it may affect the durability. I'm gonna try it next time, though. Also, after removal I spritz the panel with distilled water and go over it. This spreads the polymers and clears out the finish nicely. I also though about spritzing the panel before removing PNS to see if it lessens the drag. I'll try that next time, as well.
 
I've used the Sonax BSD on my lawnmower and it worked great--no difficult buffing or anything. I would note a couple things:

1) BSD is actually more like a spray sealant than QD
2) It goes on a lot like Mother Showtime in that it's a little more viscous than something like Megs UQD or CG's V7. A lot of reviewers remark about not liking it, but I didn't mind it.
3) BSD does not feel "slick" like other QD's; that may bother some, but the protection is there and the water beading/sheeting is amazing.
 
Thanks for the tips guys. I really think that idea of a damp microfiber just might be the ticket. I will have to try it next time. If I get the same "grabby" reaction from the BSD I will try it with the damp towel as well. I really want to like these products because I have a Mercedes that I ordered with that $1600 option "diamond" paint; they say these Sonax products were made with this paint in mind.

When I use the Wolfgang Spritz, CG's V7, Lucas Slick Mist and AquaWax, among others, they all just glide on the surface and are a pleasure to use. They may not bead or sheet quite as well as Sonax BSD, or last as long but I use these products so frequently (after nearly every weekly wash) that longevity is easily trumped by ease of use.
 
I really want to give this a try on my Subi now. Do you mind telling me where you got the hex applicator you used in the video to apply? I've been looking for them and can't seem to find them.
 
MattieDSC said:
I really want to give this a try on my Subi now. Do you mind telling me where you got the hex applicator you used in the video to apply? I've been looking for them and can't seem to find them.
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Google Adam's Hex pad to find them, I don't see the red one for sale. But you'll find blue, yellow and orange ones pretty easily. The blue and yellow are identical besides being a different color. The orange has a pad that's used for cutting. I emailed Adam's about these, they don't make them any more. The support guy told me they'll be releasing something similar in the near future.

As far as finding the blue or yellow ones, not too difficult.
 
quebert said:
Google Adam's Hex pad to find them, I don't see the red one for sale. But you'll find blue, yellow and orange ones pretty easily. The blue and yellow are identical besides being a different color. The orange has a pad that's used for cutting. I emailed Adam's about these, they don't make them any more. The support guy told me they'll be releasing something similar in the near future.

As far as finding the blue or yellow ones, not too difficult.
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Yeah I've tried that they are out of stock of everything but the tire dressing pad. Oh well I guess I'll have to find something
 
If you give it some time (couple weeks or so) they should be back in stock. If not, the Polishing Pal sold here on AG would work really well with the red LC spot buff pads.
 
I noticed they disappeared from all of the previous distributors that carried them. I certainly hope they do come back I personally like the style I have one new red one left. UIGP comes with the same style hex applicator as well.
 
rj45 said:
Brilliant Shine Detailer is not very user-friendly, either. It has a thick consistency and does not apply or remove like a traditional QD. I've started applying it with a well wrung out, damp MF towel (with distilled water is possible) then follow up with a dry one. It makes application and removal much faster and easier.

Regarding PNS, yes it's an even bigger pita to apply and remove. I get the best results when using a MF applicator. I've though about trying it damp like the Brilliant Shine, but I think it may affect the durability. I'm gonna try it next time, though. Also, after removal I spritz the panel with distilled water and go over it. This spreads the polymers and clears out the finish nicely. I also though about spritzing the panel before removing PNS to see if it lessens the drag. I'll try that next time, as well.
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I think you guys are trying to hard here. It isn't that tough, maybe you let it dry too long, you should be doing a panel and removing or half a panel. Yes it is a bit grabby. BSD couldn't be easier IME, I haven't had a single problem with streaking, smearing, etc.. Idk different experiences for everyone I guess..
 
EVOlved said:
I think you guys are trying to hard here. It isn't that tough, maybe you let it dry too long, you should be doing a panel and removing or half a panel. Yes it is a bit grabby. BSD couldn't be easier IME, I haven't had a single problem with streaking, smearing, etc.. Idk different experiences for everyone I guess..
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I'm using them correctly, not trying too hard. I'm not saying that they're a bear to use, but I wouldn't call them enjoyable to use, either. These two products are just not as user friendly as others. I don't think many people would argue otherwise. Weather/temperature changes may be a factor, I find that certain times they're a bit less finicky.

BSD and PNS are solid products, but they could use a little bit of tweaking, IMO. The looks are good, as are the beading and dirt shedding abilities.
 
rj45 said:
I'm using them correctly, not trying too hard. I'm not saying that they're a bear to use, but I wouldn't call them enjoyable to use, either. These two products are just not as user friendly as others. I don't think many people would argue otherwise. Weather/temperature changes may be a factor, I find that certain times they're a bit less finicky.

BSD and PNS are solid products, but they could use a little bit of tweaking, IMO. The looks are good, as are the beading and dirt shedding abilities.
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Ok we will disagree about BSD, because the only tweak I see to make that better would be the sprayer. NPS, yes it is a little rough to remove because of its grippiness (definitely not a word but fits), but the results speak for them self with the hydrophobicity and etc..
 
rj45 said:
I'm using them correctly, not trying too hard. I'm not saying that they're a bear to use, but I wouldn't call them enjoyable to use, either. These two products are just not as user friendly as others. I don't think many people would argue otherwise. Weather/temperature changes may be a factor, I find that certain times they're a bit less finicky.

BSD and PNS are solid products, but they could use a little bit of tweaking, IMO. The looks are good, as are the beading and dirt shedding abilities.
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when using these products you have to simply accept the fact that they are grabby on wipeoff and dont try fighting it. You wont win. You have to work with this attribute.

similar to a coating these product are very oil-free. PNS shield should be applied (IMO) somewhat heavy to a small area, then wiped in and off with a plush towel. Dont bear down so hard and the grabby feeling wont be an issue. just level it out and lightly remove.

For the Brilliant shine detailer, You actually want to use the product more lightly. Its easier to use as a drying aid. I prefer to spread it with a MF applicator, and again, wipeoff with a plush towel (preferably a korean plush towel that doesnt lint).

These products are different than what most are used to , but again, you have to accept it to work with it.
 
+ 1 to that. i just finished a 3 month test with Sonax PNS, BDS, Sonax Hybrid NPT and Sonax Nano Paint Protect Coating. There is a bit of a learning curve but all the products are exceptional.
 
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