Sonax Polymer Net Shield

Here's my opinion...

This year was the first year the great state of Texas decided to use a salt brine solution on our road ways to deal with our winter weather. I'm a little furious about that, but that's for another time and thread.

Anyway, my car is coated so removal was simple. My wife's car has only the SPNS on the paint and windows. She had a pretty significant white crusty salt line that went midway up the door panels.

I pre soaked with CG honeydew in a foam cannon, pressure washer rinsed that off, then washed with optimum car wash and pressure rinsed it off. After the last rinsing, the top of the vehicle had the familiar PNS water behavior, but the bottom was sheeting water very slowly, like bare oxidized old paint would, except it looked really glossy. The line of demarcation was pretty obvious, it was right where the heavy salt was. I thought that a bit weird, so I went after the lower panels with a second wash of the optimum and a a bit more vigor than I am usually apt to use on paint. Rinsed it with the PW again, and the whole car looked great, water behavior restored.

Bottom line, it's good stuff. Try a rewash. And if you're griping about longevity of a product you applied in October, then you must understand its March, and you got the purported 6 months out of it, in one of the most brutal winners mustof this country has seen in a very, very long time.
 
aim4squirrels said:
Here's my opinion...

This year was the first year the great state of Texas decided to use a salt brine solution on our road ways to deal with our winter weather. I'm a little furious about that, but that's for another time and thread.

Anyway, my car is coated so removal was simple. My wife's car has only the SPNS on the paint and windows. She had a pretty significant white crusty salt line that went midway up the door panels.

I pre soaked with CG honeydew in a foam cannon, pressure washer rinsed that off, then washed with optimum car wash and pressure rinsed it off. After the last rinsing, the top of the vehicle had the familiar PNS water behavior, but the bottom was sheeting water very slowly, like bare oxidized old paint would, except it looked really glossy. The line of demarcation was pretty obvious, it was right where the heavy salt was. I thought that a bit weird, so I went after the lower panels with a second wash of the optimum and a a bit more vigor than I am usually apt to use on paint. Rinsed it with the PW again, and the whole car looked great, water behavior restored.

Bottom line, it's good stuff. Try a rewash. And if you're griping about longevity of a product you applied in October, then you must understand its March, and you got the purported 6 months out of it, in one of the most brutal winners mustof this country has seen in a very, very long time.
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aim4squirrels said:
Here's my opinion...

This year was the first year the great state of Texas decided to use a salt brine solution on our road ways to deal with our winter weather. I'm a little furious about that, but that's for another time and thread.

Anyway, my car is coated so removal was simple. My wife's car has only the SPNS on the paint and windows. She had a pretty significant white crusty salt line that went midway up the door panels.

I pre soaked with CG honeydew in a foam cannon, pressure washer rinsed that off, then washed with optimum car wash and pressure rinsed it off. After the last rinsing, the top of the vehicle had the familiar PNS water behavior, but the bottom was sheeting water very slowly, like bare oxidized old paint would, except it looked really glossy. The line of demarcation was pretty obvious, it was right where the heavy salt was. I thought that a bit weird, so I went after the lower panels with a second wash of the optimum and a a bit more vigor than I am usually apt to use on paint. Rinsed it with the PW again, and the whole car looked great, water behavior restored.

Bottom line, it's good stuff. Try a rewash. And if you're griping about longevity of a product you applied in October, then you must understand its March, and you got the purported 6 months out of it, in one of the most brutal winners mustof this country has seen in a very, very long time.
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Evan.J said:
Kris I find that using a MF towel and apply the PNS to the towel then spreading over the panel works much better than the applicator.

This method will allow you to use less product and have less waste.

Additionally you can apply a second coat or more 1 hour after the first initial application.
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Thanks for info Evan, I will be doing my vehicles when and if ever the weather gets good here ")
 
RPPM said:
I tried it this past October, and after washing my cars yesterday, I think it is entirely gone. If this is the case, I will stick with Collinite. Past winters have seen Poorboys Polish with Sealant to clean and prep paint, then 1 coat of 845, followed by 1 coat of 476 (885 actually, but the same stuff), and that has lasted me all winter. This fall, I used HD Polish to clean, then Car Pro Eraser to wipe down, followed by 2 coats of PNS 24 hours apart. Even using the PNS special applicator it was a pain to use. To each their own I guess.
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The place I bought SPNS from said that sometiems Eraser doesn't get all of the wax and oils off and to use Klean Strip Prep-Al. So I used it after Blackfire SRC Compound and Finishing Polish and got about 7 months so far. It still beads quite a bit, not as much as when I first applied it though. Of course in Hawaii we don't have winter so the time to test durability for us is during the summer. The one thing I like is that my truck seems cleaner in between washes than when I used wax.
 
Sonax PNS applied in December. Just rinsed off at the local car wash bay. No wiping or scrubbing. This vehicle has sat outside and hasn't been touched since the original application.
 
I don't think PNS is bad, I just didn't find it any better. I seem to find this with a lot of detailing products. 80% of all detailing products seem to deliver the same result, which is probably pretty good compared to what it was a decade ago. I think at the end of the day, find what you like and use it often. Hmm, I think I've heard that before, at least once or 300 times by someone who truly knows what he's talking about on this forum. As usual, Mike is correct.
 
Ok, I have been using PNS quite a bit this spring and summer. I am reversing my earlier opinion. I use a short nap micro fiber like Meguiars Supreme Shine to wipe off the residue, and the Sonax applicator to apply. This is working better for me. The one thing I really, really like is I have zero issues with water spotting when using this. I think this is one of the best LSP's on the market. When used in conjunction with Sonax BSD, the cars I have done all look and feel like I just applied the lsp yesterday. Four months on a daily driver, sheds water like nothing else I have used. I use the BSD once every four weeks.
 
RPPM said:
Ok, I have been using PNS quite a bit this spring and summer. I am reversing my earlier opinion. I use a short nap micro fiber like Meguiars Supreme Shine to wipe off the residue, and the Sonax applicator to apply. This is working better for me. The one thing I really, really like is I have zero issues with water spotting when using this. I think this is one of the best LSP's on the market. When used in conjunction with Sonax BSD, the cars I have done all look and feel like I just applied the lsp yesterday. Four months on a daily driver, sheds water like nothing else I have used. I use the BSD once every four weeks.
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Nice to see a change of heart Kris! :dblthumb2:
 
Darn you Evan, now I have to put a can of this in my next order...
 
I have found and even better method to apply that makes SPNS a breeze. Stay tuned for a how to
 
RPPM said:
Ok, I have been using PNS quite a bit this spring and summer. I am reversing my earlier opinion. I use a short nap micro fiber like Meguiars Supreme Shine to wipe off the residue, and the Sonax applicator to apply. This is working better for me. The one thing I really, really like is I have zero issues with water spotting when using this. I think this is one of the best LSP's on the market. When used in conjunction with Sonax BSD, the cars I have done all look and feel like I just applied the lsp yesterday. Four months on a daily driver, sheds water like nothing else I have used. I use the BSD once every four weeks.
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Glad to see you're liking it :cool:
 
Good deal. I may have to do this. I have a water spotting issue with normal rainfall.
.I should use an ultra fine compound to remove the old LSP right?
 
Ok I will put together something for you guys. It's requires skipping a step lets just say that!
 
I have been using Carpro Reload, have had good results but from all the talk here about shedding dirt and road grime I think I might need to give PNS a try. My question is do I need the BSD as well? Is this just to add longevity or does it add other things like gloss or slickness? Would I get the same shedding results with BSD alone with less longevity?
 
There isn't much "slickness " to be had with BSD . IMO No you dont need BSD , it does help though .Yes you'll get darn near the same sheeting effects from BSD as PNS , but not the staying power , although it will hang in there a while .. You should definitely give it a try . Its quite impressive IMHO . Just don't be in a rush when applying .

I'm in for Evan's lil trick with PNS application as well , always like to hear new ideas ...

Daren
 
I'm wondering if this new way is similar to the quick way for Optiseal, Where you spray onto a damp microfiber towel and it allows you to cover more area without the product drying out on you
 
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