Sonus products

trhland said:
killr whats your take on detail companys that sell primararly to pro detailers ,that you dont hear much about on the web. like carbrite -pro -toppsall -granitize ect. detailers around here use alot of these . are they just cheaper and provide less results then what you guys have?
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Most of your hard core larger detailer are older guys that never go on the net at all. Most have a supplier in a truck come around and drop off supplies. That's why you will not see pricing on carbrites site.
 
That is a house brand of Autopia, and since it is David's product I can say it has to be of a good quality. Don't knock a product until you have tried it.;)
 
trhland said:
killr whats your take on detail companys that sell primararly to pro detailers ,that you dont hear much about on the web. like carbrite -pro -toppsall -granitize ect. detailers around here use alot of these . are they just cheaper and provide less results then what you guys have?
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Not sure of those but on other forums, for detailers pry the most well known for bulk users is Automagic and Chemical Guys. One of the big detailing places here used Automagic I believe, fairly decent, cars come out pretty good looking and usually the people doing them down the assembly line are using clean mitts etc, but I've seen them use mitts that looked black eeek. Gotta say though, the two main detailing places are right across from each other and they are busy from morning till close, not that my truck would go there :D
 
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trhland said:
killr whats your take on detail companys that sell primararly to pro detailers ,that you dont hear much about on the web. like carbrite -pro -toppsall -granitize ect. detailers around here use alot of these . are they just cheaper and provide less results then what you guys have?
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We have a large group of bulk distributors down here, Car Chem use to be the biggie. There claim to fame is size and pricing. Its not meant to be the best of the best. Simply provide nice results ... and then get them back for another detail session. Problem I can see is cost issue, just like store bought or mass produced product, you have to use cheaper and lower ingredients to make the product profitable. Low grade silicones and the such are common, and not what I am personally looking for ...
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
We have a large group of bulk distributors down here, Car Chem use to be the biggie. There claim to fame is size and pricing. Its not meant to be the best of the best. Simply provide nice results ... and then get them back for another detail session. Problem I can see is cost issue, just like store bought or mass produced product, you have to use cheaper and lower ingredients to make the product profitable. Low grade silicones and the such are common, and not what I am personally looking for ...
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i hear ya i agree. alot of detailers have to make money and anyway to cut down on there over head they do. the waxes arent bad but i fiqure they cant hold up as long as the products you carry. the distibuters sell a gallion of wax for like 20 bucks. its got to be a lower grade i asume. thanks for the feedback.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
We have a large group of bulk distributors down here, Car Chem use to be the biggie. There claim to fame is size and pricing. Its not meant to be the best of the best. Simply provide nice results ... and then get them back for another detail session. Problem I can see is cost issue, just like store bought or mass produced product, you have to use cheaper and lower ingredients to make the product profitable. Low grade silicones and the such are common, and not what I am personally looking for ...
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What about their degreasers, car wash soap, clay bars, lube, and APC? I would think when your using those kind of bulk products it would give you the same results.
 
Justin and I, that I know of, use a lot of Meg's Pro/Detailer line, and like them very much so. If you're looking for a quality product, that comes in bulk, and is within reason on price, then you have a winner. Their Hyper-Wash and #00 wash are known to be pretty good washes, along with their #80's products. A good buy I must say.. :awesome:
 
Luke said:
What about their degreasers, car wash soap, clay bars, lube, and APC? I would think when your using those kind of bulk products it would give you the same results.
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could be ... but could be pre-VOC products with low grade solvents and thus deemed environmentally unfriendly and consumer unsafe also. I dont pretend to know, but prefer current offerings even in bulk.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
could be ... but could be pre-VOC products with low grade solvents and thus deemed environmentally unfriendly and consumer unsafe also. I dont pretend to know, but prefer current offerings even in bulk.
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Killr, I am not trying to be rude, thank you so much for your help, but what does VOC mean? What does consumer unsafe mean? Does that mean unhealthy for the person using it? What do you mean you prefer current offerings in bulk?
 
Luke said:
What about their degreasers, car wash soap, clay bars, lube, and APC? I would think when your using those kind of bulk products it would give you the same results.
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thoses i do buy in bulk. i use this purple degreeser i buy in 5 gal container its great i use it to clean rims tires engines ect. and its totoly safe and only cost 35 bucks for a 5 gal.
 
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killrwheels@autogeek said:
could be ... but could be pre-VOC products with low grade solvents and thus deemed environmentally unfriendly and consumer unsafe also. I dont pretend to know, but prefer current offerings even in bulk.
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voc doesnt mean unsafe for the user only unsafe for the enviorment
 
trhland said:
voc doesnt mean unsafe for the user only unsafe for the enviorment
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that is absolutely correct, but each year a list of chemicals is also deemed unsafe for humans. Remember Lead based paint, true Mercury themometors, Abestos as a binding agent in brake shoes. We never truly know whats in the package, nor how long it can be considered safe. Tread lightly !!
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
that is absolutely correct, but each year a list of chemicals is also deemed unsafe for humans. Remember Lead based paint, true Mercury themometors, Abestos as a binding agent in brake shoes. We never truly know whats in the package, nor how long it can be considered safe. Tread lightly !!
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Kllr - you into puns now too?;)
 
I have to admit I love sonus green clay. Is there anything AG offers that would be comparable (i.e. super mild and priced around the same)? I'd love to give it a shot!

Pete
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
The products offered by PBMA are not private labels or sold to outside sources. Thus when you purchase Pinnacle, DP, or Wolfgang you are getting a unique creation. (not saying they dont share some components, most detailing supplies do).

Is Pinnacle the best ?? Who knows, but it is consistently brought up from others as to the best carnauba or the one they judge all others against. As Max once told me ... ever gone to a title weight fight ?? Arent both competitors likely the best of the best ?? Dont you think it was a honor to be invited to such a special event ?? Detailing supplies have personal taste and feelings, not a knock out punch to decide the winner, as such on any given day either winner could win based upon the crowds scoring. Being invited is the true honor !!

I put detailing supplies into a top 5-10 list. As such any of them would be more than acceptable for use and offering to others.
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Not sure how to interpret this. Is the product not created by separate companies and just sold by Autogeek? Or are the products created and owned by Autogeek then sell them under separate product line names?

Howard
 
Autogeek does not private label, meaning the design and manufacture the product and allow others to sell it with their own label. Chemical Guys does this for many lines ( I will not get into it online) where the beta line is offered to anyone with the cash and label to resell.

Everything currently made under DP, Wolfgang, and Pinnacle is unique to PBMA and cannot be found anywhere else. It is true some ingredients are same or similar, but that does not make up the product in final design.
 
Sonus Acrylic Spritz

Is there a quick detailer competitor to Sonus Acrylic Spritz sold by AG? Im looking for something that can be used over Klasse AIO & SG. Will a carnuba based QD work, or does it have to be acrylic based like Sonus claims?
 
Sonus, Werkstatt, and Menzerna make acrylic versions of the qd'er. I have personally found that 425, Quikshine, CM, and even Poorboys Spray/Gloss work well with Klasse twins. I suspect poly based qd'ers like Four Starr and Wolfgang would also.
 
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