Souveran- am i the only one

Eveything is always an opinion. What looks good to you may not even look good to someone else. A lot of people like a product to make their tires real shinney and I don't like that look. I like more of a natural semigloss look. Again a lot of people like a product that makes their leather look shinney. Again, I like a more natural semigloss look. Thats just my opinion, you can do whatever you like and it's ok with me. When it comes to waxes and other products it's the same thing. A lot of people may want their paint to look wet but they will not all agree on what really looks wet. Some people may want the wax to leave their car looking dry and dull. I see a lot of dull looking cars around maybe thats the look they want. If thats their opinion it's ok with me. I started a thread last week titled 'Lets see your pictures'. When I started the thread I was trying to get at lets see your pictures of how a product looks on a car so I can make my own opinion about it. A lot of people on threads talk about how great or not so great a product is and never post any pictures. I like hearing what people have to say about products but I also want to see pictures so I can make my own opinion about it. The theard 'Lets see you pictures' turned out to be more then I intended with people posting a lot of great pictures of detailed cars which I loved to see (Thanks for all your posts). Everything I wrote is just my opinion. If you don't agree it ok your entitled to your own opinion.
 
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Surfer said:
OT but if you search on there you'll see my thread trying to figure out what happened. Nobody knows, he can still login and post or pm, just that those post don't show up and pm's aren't recieved, he can post in the Shoutbox so I doubt he was banned as normally if your banned from a forum you can't even log in.
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PLEASE FILL ME IN......WHAT HAPPEN TO THIS NICE KNOWLEDGEABLE TALENTED, DETAILER??:o :o :o P.M. ME IF DESIRED......

I UNDERSTAND NOW, SORRY......I THOUGHT IT WAS THIS FORUM....;)
 
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I have also used and purchased more than my share of waxes, most in the quest for the perfect wax. To date I have settled on Pinnacle Souveran as it is the entire package. It is by far the easiest paste wax to use, with a foamy and WOWO method. No heating in your hands, no messy dust, and no white markings on trim.

Having purchased several Estate Waxes, Swissol variations, and Victoria Waxes, I would turn the table and ask you why they seem so special over Pinnacle since you offer you dont see anything different ?? There is no difference in outcome between Concours and Paste Glaz, and over a 125.00 price difference. Souveran looks very similar to the newest Ital and original Destiny, but obviously price, ease of use, and same outcome would give it better rankings. Thats why I believe Souveran takes the cake, it gives the most for least price, not that others cannot compete just at higher cost and more work !

I somehow think that most "expect" something greater when purchasing these high priced waxes. Souveran is the king when it comes to blacks, reds, and yellows. To date I have not found something to overtake it. That doesnt mean I dont spend at all ends of the spectrum. And I believe we each should have our own opinion. What I will tell you is on metallics and lighter cars almost all other waxes look great. Maybe its reflection versus refraction ??

As for Nattys Blue .... used it once. Nothing special. Sure it had the wetness, and some added depth over the previous Nattys. That said, CG5050 looks better and easier to use for only a couple bucks more. Sig Series II, DP Max Wax, Hardcore XXX and several others are fine additions also. I think some have fallen in love with the smell more so than the outcome. Nattys is one of the hardest carnaubas to remove.
 
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killrwheels@autogeek said:
I have also used and purchased more than my share of waxes, most in the quest for the perfect wax. To date I have settled on Pinnacle Souveran as it is the entire package. It is by far the easiest paste wax to use, with a foamy and WOWO method. No heating in your hands, no messy dust, and no white markings on trim.

Having purchased several Estate Waxes, Swissol variations, and Victoria Waxes, I would turn the table and ask you why they seem so special over Pinnacle since you offer you dont see anything different ?? There is no difference in outcome between Concours and Paste Glaz, and over a 125.00 price difference. Souveran looks very similar to the newest Ital and original Destiny, but obviously price, ease of use, and same outcome would give it better rankings. Thats why I believe Souveran takes the cake, it gives the most for least price, not that others cannot compete just at higher cost and more work !

I somehow think that most "expect" something greater when purchasing these high priced waxes. Souveran is the king when it comes to blacks, reds, and yellows. To date I have not found something to overtake it. That doesnt mean I dont spend at all ends of the spectrum. And I believe we each should have our own opinion. What I will tell you is on metallics and lighter cars almost all other waxes look great. Maybe its reflection versus refraction ??

As for Nattys Blue .... used it once. Nothing special. Sure it had the wetness, and some added depth over the previous Nattys. That said, CG5050 looks better and easier to use for only a couple bucks more. Sig Series II, DP Max Wax, Hardcore XXX and several others are fine additions also. I think some have fallen in love with the smell more so than the outcome. Nattys is one of the hardest carnaubas to remove.
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That's one thing I don't like about Natty's. That's why I prefer WOWO method on all paste carnauba waxes.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
As for Nattys Blue .... used it once. Nothing special. Sure it had the wetness, and some added depth over the previous Nattys. That said, CG5050 looks better and easier to use for only a couple bucks more. Sig Series II, DP Max Wax, Hardcore XXX and several others are fine additions also. I think some have fallen in love with the smell more so than the outcome. Nattys is one of the hardest carnaubas to remove.
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My thoughts exactly. In my experience, Natty's blue was the hardest to remove. I would have to disagree about CG5050 being only a couple of bucks more, it's nearly $50 bucks, whereas Natty's blue is $16(full price). Go with Max Wax, Sig Series, or Hardcore XXX if you're worried about price and you won't be disappointed. Don't get me wrong about Natty's Blue.....I like it, just like others more:D
 
supercharged said:
That's one thing I don't like about Natty's. That's why I prefer WOWO method on all paste carnauba waxes.
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Couldn't sleep Super? 3:19am?? You must be on the west coast (hopefully).;)
 
dengood1 said:
Couldn't sleep Super? 3:19am?? You must be on the west coast (hopefully).;)
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I went to bed but i woke at 2:30 am after hearing the hot water tank leaking from the pressure valve,it's 6:30 and i can't fall back to sleep..
 
joe.p said:
I went to bed but i woke at 2:30 am after hearing the hot water tank leaking from the pressure valve,it's 6:30 and i can't fall back to sleep..
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Man, I hate it when that happens. It's usually acid reflux that keeps me from counting the sheep. Hope you don't have to work today!!!
 
dengood1 said:
Man, I hate it when that happens. It's usually acid reflux that keeps me from counting the sheep. Hope you don't have to work today!!!
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Den No work today,I haven't had a goodnight sleep since sept due to my shoulder ..Try and get some Nexium for your acid reflux this may help..
 
Gary Sword said:
Eveything is always an opinion. What looks good to you may not even look good to someone else. A lot of people like a product to make their tires real shinney and I don't like that look. I like more of a natural semigloss look. Again a lot of people like a product that makes their leather look shinney. Again, I like a more natural semigloss look. Thats just my opinion, you can do whatever you like and it's ok with me. When it comes to waxes and other products it's the same thing. A lot of people may want their paint to look wet but they will not all agree on what really looks wet. Some people may want the wax to leave their car looking dry and dull. I see a lot of dull looking cars around maybe thats the look they want. If thats their opinion it's ok with me. I started a thread last week titled 'Lets see your pictures'. When I started the thread I was trying to get at lets see your pictures of how a product looks on a car so I can make my own opinion about it. A lot of people on threads talk about how great or not so great a product is and never post any pictures. I like hearing what people have to say about products but I also want to see pictures so I can make my own opinion about it. The theard 'Lets see you pictures' turned out to be more then I intended with people posting a lot of great pictures of detailed cars which I loved to see (Thanks for all your posts). Everything I wrote is just my opinion. If you don't agree it ok your entitled to your own opinion.
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Gary ,
I seen a pic of the driver side of your yellow Lambo in the photo gallery ..would you be willing to take the time to post it..That pic is worth a thousand words along with Scotts Vette with UPP and Souveran..
 
joe.p said:
Den No work today,I haven't had a goodnight sleep since sept due to my shoulder ..Try and get some Nexium for your acid reflux this may help..
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Thanks, I just need to eat less/and eat healthier, which was one of my resolutions;) What did you do to your shoulder? Too much "wax on, wax off"? :D

Try some Jack and Coke for the shoulder;)
 
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Gary ,
I seen a pic of the driver side of your yellow Lambo in the photo gallery ..would you be willing to take the time to post it..That pic is worth a thousand words along with Scotts Vette with UPP and Souveran..
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Thanks for your complement Joe. To me Souveran looks better then anything I have tried so far on my yellow car. If someone does not agree it's ok and I respect their opinion.

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Souveran, CG 5050 and Maxwax are my top three and often I cannot see any difference...but that's just old eyes and how the light hits it. When Maxwax is on sale it's a steal.

As Mike Phillips (@Meguiars) says....find something you like and use it often.
It's all good.
 
I will admit that picture is stunning, i love yellow cars. I tink thats a rarily in the world of souveran. every wax has a car that it looks awsome one, in this case its a yellow lambo. so now that i have the way I just need tobuy a yellow lambo.. right?

but realy nice pic, and ncie car
 
Gary Sword said:
Thanks for your complement Joe. To me Souveran looks better then anything I have tried so far on my yellow car. If someone does not agree it's ok and I respect their opinion.

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Gary is you ever need someone to babysit that car, let me know!:p I promise to take good care of her!
 
Meghan said:
Gary is you ever need someone to babysit that car, let me know!:p I promise to take good care of her!
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Thanks for the offer Meghan. If I need a sitter you will be the first one I call. It is a fun car.
 
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Does anyone know how much No.1 yellow carnuba by volume is in Souveran? The page on souveran says its the "main" ingredient..
 
nick19 said:
Does anyone know how much No.1 yellow carnuba by volume is in Souveran? The page on souveran says its the "main" ingredient..
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That little secret is something Pinnacle has never advertised. At least in none of the material I've ever seen. I've seen a few remarks on it by the original maker and his comment was: "enough to get the job done well" or at least something along those lines.
 
Oh.. why is that? Other companies supply that type of information... :confused:


Just curious.. thats all :D
 
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