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Thanks Chris... I hope so too lol.
No jlt oil separator... I hear mixed things on that. Some say not really beneficial.
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Thanks Chris... I hope so too lol.
No jlt oil separator... I hear mixed things on that. Some say not really beneficial.
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Well for what its worth, I've been collecting about 1oz of oil every 1500-2000 miles out of the 5.0 in my truck. Mine is from UPR.
So some are saying that they're not really beneficial on the Mustangs even with forced induction?
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Oil separator is a must on the 2011+ even in N/A form. Take a look in your stock intake when you pull it and I bet you see oil running out of it.
The JLT ones work and according to Chris ^, so do the UPR. Don't get a shelby one.
Here is a 2011 I did a boss manifold install on. It wasnt even on the second oil change and was N/A.
DSC08220 by latemodelresto, on Flickr
The JLT ones work and according to Chris ^, so do the UPR. Don't get a shelby one.
Here is a 2011 I did a boss manifold install on. It wasnt even on the second oil change and was N/A.
DSC08220 by latemodelresto, on Flickr
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holy nelly... that's some great numbers man. Mine might be less than that
Nothing a few more mods wont cure!Im the MAN
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Oil separator is a must on the 2011+ even in N/A form. Take a look in your stock intake when you pull it and I bet you see oil running out of it.
The JLT ones work and according to Chris ^, so do the UPR. Don't get a shelby one.
Here is a 2011 I did a boss manifold install on. It wasnt even on the second oil change and was N/A.
DSC08220 by latemodelresto, on Flickr
Thanks for info.. I will have to look into that. I hope I can get out of this sc install in one piece first
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Seeing the inside of my PCV line was enough to convince me to get one. Granted my truck had 35k miles when I got it, but better late than never.
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Update as of Sunday 9/29/2013
Sorry I wasn't able to post much yesterday. I was in the belly of the beast so to say. All in all, I'd say I'm about 80 - 85% done overall. I worked alone for about 2 hours starting at 5 am yesterday, then buddies came over and we worked till 2 pm. I then worked alone again for about 2 more hours.
The install was a major success for the most part. The minor snags we ran into were:
1) Determining a good enough "cut"/modification to the PCM run-start fuse to allow for a good fit of the tapped fuse. After about 15 minutes of haggling with it, we got it in.
2) EVAP solenoid extension harness provided was the right kind (male/female), but one end of it was the wrong orientation/shape. You'll see what I mean in the pics below. I believe it's an error in the Magnuson kit, so I will be contacting them tomorrow to make sure they correct it for future kits, or perhaps I will have to change it again. We made it work by pushing it (without clicking) as much as possible, then wrapping tape around it good to ensure it doesn't come off.
3) Coolant hose routing was in error on the manual. Pics didn't match verbiage. I will be contacting Magnuson about this too. Only by looking at close-up pics of other installed Maggie Stangs on the web, were we able to determine the proper routing. Essentially it was deciding whether the driver or passenger side intercooler on the SC manifold went to the new coolant reservoir. We figured out that it was the driver side.
4) Driver side PCV hose was a major PITA!!! I spent almost 2 hours removing the fitting and reinstalling it. Task was to shorten the hose. Problem was, I had to CAREFULLY cut the molded tubing off WITHOUT damaging the fitting. Then I was supposed to heat up the tubing enough after cutting it to length, to push the fitting back on all the way in. As you can imagine, I couldn't get it hot enough to allow to push, or too soft that it started flexing. Anyways, went to ACE hardware, had another guy help me (I was alone at home doing this), then bought additional shrink tubing to make sure it was sealed.
Other than that, install was literally easy. I'd rank the overall install about a 7/10 in terms of difficulty. Just mechanical (and some electrical) inclination is all you need.
I still need to do FIVE more things... today/tomorrow (when I'm off work).
1) Fill new intercooler reservoir with coolant.
2) Reinstall the front bumper and other connections.
3) Install boost gauge, complete with power/ground connections. I will need HELP with this, for those of you out there. Where do I tap power??? esp for dimming?
4) Zip tie and clean up wire looms, tubing, etc all over engine bay.
5) Load new Magnuson tune (tomorrow arrival).
Then I'm done.... now on to the pics... :metal:
Finished tapping the fuse and connecting all the grounds. I'm amazed at my ability to do wiring at 5 am... lol
Installed panel mounting nut for intercooler pump.
Intercooler pump mounted on bracket.
Intercooler pump mounter on cross member.
Intercooler with foam backing installed.
Intercooler mounted in place! Looks amazing...
Intercooler coolant reservoir mounted in driver side strut mount.
The BELLY of the BEAST!!! Stock intake manifold removed...before cleaning. I'm amazed at how much crap is able to get in there.
New Maggie SC manifold flipped over for gasket and solenoid install.
Maggie SC ready for mounting...
This was a GRAND moment... first looking at this setup, standing back and admiring it... that was priceless.
Fuel rails with new fuel injectors ready for mounting. Getting it all lined up before pushing it down was kindda freaky... had to make sure it was all straight.
Here's this EVAP harness... stock is on right, new one is on left. You see how the straight vs curved sides is mirrored on each one???
Here's the PCV hose... see how I still had to shove it in another good .25"??? What a royal PITA.
Here's that same hose all fixed up and sealed.
New Maggie KnN filter in red, as opposed to stock orange. I noticed how much thicker the OEM one was. Back goes the stock box though! I will miss the Cone shaped AirRaid I had...
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And here's the final pics... everything installed, sans bumper and cleanup of course. Serpentine belt all installed on new pulleys/idlers, etc. Airbox installed too. This is what 13 hours of work (with more to do yet!) looks like. I just LOVE how the set up looks tho. I'm SO glad I got the powder coated blue. It matches the coil covers so well.
Many thanks to Mike and Ed and Derek. My buddies who helped me this weekend. FYI, I might still need more of your help :devil:
More updates today/tomorrow as I do the 5 things I mentioned above.
Sorry I wasn't able to post much yesterday. I was in the belly of the beast so to say. All in all, I'd say I'm about 80 - 85% done overall. I worked alone for about 2 hours starting at 5 am yesterday, then buddies came over and we worked till 2 pm. I then worked alone again for about 2 more hours.
The install was a major success for the most part. The minor snags we ran into were:
1) Determining a good enough "cut"/modification to the PCM run-start fuse to allow for a good fit of the tapped fuse. After about 15 minutes of haggling with it, we got it in.
2) EVAP solenoid extension harness provided was the right kind (male/female), but one end of it was the wrong orientation/shape. You'll see what I mean in the pics below. I believe it's an error in the Magnuson kit, so I will be contacting them tomorrow to make sure they correct it for future kits, or perhaps I will have to change it again. We made it work by pushing it (without clicking) as much as possible, then wrapping tape around it good to ensure it doesn't come off.
3) Coolant hose routing was in error on the manual. Pics didn't match verbiage. I will be contacting Magnuson about this too. Only by looking at close-up pics of other installed Maggie Stangs on the web, were we able to determine the proper routing. Essentially it was deciding whether the driver or passenger side intercooler on the SC manifold went to the new coolant reservoir. We figured out that it was the driver side.
4) Driver side PCV hose was a major PITA!!! I spent almost 2 hours removing the fitting and reinstalling it. Task was to shorten the hose. Problem was, I had to CAREFULLY cut the molded tubing off WITHOUT damaging the fitting. Then I was supposed to heat up the tubing enough after cutting it to length, to push the fitting back on all the way in. As you can imagine, I couldn't get it hot enough to allow to push, or too soft that it started flexing. Anyways, went to ACE hardware, had another guy help me (I was alone at home doing this), then bought additional shrink tubing to make sure it was sealed.
Other than that, install was literally easy. I'd rank the overall install about a 7/10 in terms of difficulty. Just mechanical (and some electrical) inclination is all you need.
I still need to do FIVE more things... today/tomorrow (when I'm off work).
1) Fill new intercooler reservoir with coolant.
2) Reinstall the front bumper and other connections.
3) Install boost gauge, complete with power/ground connections. I will need HELP with this, for those of you out there. Where do I tap power??? esp for dimming?
4) Zip tie and clean up wire looms, tubing, etc all over engine bay.
5) Load new Magnuson tune (tomorrow arrival).
Then I'm done.... now on to the pics... :metal:
Finished tapping the fuse and connecting all the grounds. I'm amazed at my ability to do wiring at 5 am... lol
Installed panel mounting nut for intercooler pump.
Intercooler pump mounted on bracket.
Intercooler pump mounter on cross member.
Intercooler with foam backing installed.
Intercooler mounted in place! Looks amazing...
Intercooler coolant reservoir mounted in driver side strut mount.
The BELLY of the BEAST!!! Stock intake manifold removed...before cleaning. I'm amazed at how much crap is able to get in there.
New Maggie SC manifold flipped over for gasket and solenoid install.
Maggie SC ready for mounting...
This was a GRAND moment... first looking at this setup, standing back and admiring it... that was priceless.
Fuel rails with new fuel injectors ready for mounting. Getting it all lined up before pushing it down was kindda freaky... had to make sure it was all straight.
Here's this EVAP harness... stock is on right, new one is on left. You see how the straight vs curved sides is mirrored on each one???
Here's the PCV hose... see how I still had to shove it in another good .25"??? What a royal PITA.
Here's that same hose all fixed up and sealed.
New Maggie KnN filter in red, as opposed to stock orange. I noticed how much thicker the OEM one was. Back goes the stock box though! I will miss the Cone shaped AirRaid I had...
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.
.
.
.
And here's the final pics... everything installed, sans bumper and cleanup of course. Serpentine belt all installed on new pulleys/idlers, etc. Airbox installed too. This is what 13 hours of work (with more to do yet!) looks like. I just LOVE how the set up looks tho. I'm SO glad I got the powder coated blue. It matches the coil covers so well.
Many thanks to Mike and Ed and Derek. My buddies who helped me this weekend. FYI, I might still need more of your help :devil:
More updates today/tomorrow as I do the 5 things I mentioned above.
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^^^As Annie Lennox would say:^^^
:xyxthumbs:
Bob
Lol thanks bob. Hey, as far as installing boost gauge power source... Any tips? Never done it before
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What brand gauge? Are you using a pillar pod or the a/c vent pod?
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-One of the easiest ways is connecting into the existing instrument illumination-circuit.
(this enables the boost gauge to illuminate along with the rest of the vehicle's instruments)
-The cigarette lighter (and its illumination circuit) is a good location to tie into.
-The location of your boost gauge will determine where the wiring will run from the underhood-sensor location,
through the firewall(?)...and from the aforementioned cigarette lighter location.
Note:
Most cars' electrical systems will be able to cope with an extra bulb without being overloaded.
(If the gauge is equipped with LED's...polarity must be kept in mind)
Just a suggestion.
Bob
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Update as of 3 pm 9/29...
Finished tidying up all the hoses and wires in the engine bay. Adhered some of my Magnuson labels
Also, installed the Defi Boost gauge, including the vacuum line and electronic sender. I have not done the electrical wiring yet. I am contemplating taking it to an automotive electronic shop due to potential complexity. I'm not into electrical wiring
Labels adhered
Gauge cluster trim removed and wiring pulled through...
Trim put back on, but I taped the wires so they don't fall back through...lol
All done. Can't wait to see it all lit up tomorrow. Red triangle is adjustable marker for boost warning...
Going to attempt to reinstall the front bumper now... wish me luck.
Finished tidying up all the hoses and wires in the engine bay. Adhered some of my Magnuson labels
Also, installed the Defi Boost gauge, including the vacuum line and electronic sender. I have not done the electrical wiring yet. I am contemplating taking it to an automotive electronic shop due to potential complexity. I'm not into electrical wiring
Labels adhered
Gauge cluster trim removed and wiring pulled through...
Trim put back on, but I taped the wires so they don't fall back through...lol
All done. Can't wait to see it all lit up tomorrow. Red triangle is adjustable marker for boost warning...
Going to attempt to reinstall the front bumper now... wish me luck.
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Update Sunday 9/29 8 pm...
Ok, I verified the intercooler pump is fully operational. I can't believe I had electrical skillzzz lol. Anyways, I took a pic and made a video of it on, when the key is in ignition and turned to on (no crank). I then finished putting the bumper back on with no issues, as well as the underbody plastic covers.
All in all a good day. Am ready for the SCT tuner arriving tomorrow, then I still don't know what to do about the gauge wiring....
Intercooler pump working... you can see the coolant pumping through. Thus verified a closed loop system... whew....
Here's a short video of it running.
[video=youtube_share;cMWiDKvuUx8"]Magnuson supercharger inter cooler pump working - YouTube[/video]
Another pic of my gauge set up. I love that thing. If only I could get it working lol...
And finally, everything put back together. Does it look stock?????? :devil:
Tomorrow is D-day. I hopefully get to start her up.
Ok, I verified the intercooler pump is fully operational. I can't believe I had electrical skillzzz lol. Anyways, I took a pic and made a video of it on, when the key is in ignition and turned to on (no crank). I then finished putting the bumper back on with no issues, as well as the underbody plastic covers.
All in all a good day. Am ready for the SCT tuner arriving tomorrow, then I still don't know what to do about the gauge wiring....
Intercooler pump working... you can see the coolant pumping through. Thus verified a closed loop system... whew....
Here's a short video of it running.
[video=youtube_share;cMWiDKvuUx8"]Magnuson supercharger inter cooler pump working - YouTube[/video]
Another pic of my gauge set up. I love that thing. If only I could get it working lol...
And finally, everything put back together. Does it look stock?????? :devil:
Tomorrow is D-day. I hopefully get to start her up.
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Everything is looking great so far Sportscar. Keeping my fingers crossed for you today.
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Everything is looking great so far Sportscar. Keeping my fingers crossed for you today.
Thanks Chris... Have the day off to spend time with the kids, relax and recover from a weekend of stress and excitement.
Awaiting arrival of SCT tuner. Hurry UPS man!!
I also plan on taking Marilyn to an electronics shop to finish the gauge wiring for power.More updates later...
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Awaiting arrival of
-SCT tuner. Hurry UPS man!!
-finish the gauge wiring for power.
-More updates later...
............^^^???^^^............
Bob
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If you can install a blower, you can wire a gauge!
Try this:
Full time B+
Red wire from gauge to Blue with red stripe wire on ignition switch
Switched B+
orange wire from gauge to gray with violet stripe wire on ignition switch
Illumination
White wire from gauge to violet with gray stripe wire on headlight switch
Ground
Black wire from gauge to Black with violet stripe wire on headlight switch
Try this:
Full time B+
Red wire from gauge to Blue with red stripe wire on ignition switch
Switched B+
orange wire from gauge to gray with violet stripe wire on ignition switch
Illumination
White wire from gauge to violet with gray stripe wire on headlight switch
Ground
Black wire from gauge to Black with violet stripe wire on headlight switch
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Lol NOW you respond with this! Kidding...
I'm sitting and waiting at the electronics shop for them to finish a quick wiring job on the gauge
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Lol NOW you respond with this! Kidding...
I'm sitting and waiting at the electronics shop for them to finish a quick wiring job on the gauge
LOL! Sorry man, I had both kids by myself this weekend, so I didn't have a chance to look anything up until today.
The fact that your at a shop means that she fires and runs and drives, and all the good stuff shes supposed to do!