Spray Wax Durability

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Hey guys help out a new geek please. When I try selling a spray wax job to a customer I want to tell him/her the most that a good spray wax will last them.

So what is the durability on say a D156?

Thats for when they dont want to spend alot more for other wax jobs which we are all familiar with?

Im still learning how to upsell.
 
ayankeeman1968 said:
Hey guys help out a new geek please. When I try selling a spray wax job to a customer I want to tell him/her the most that a good spray wax will last them.

So what is the durability on say a D156?

Thats for when they dont want to spend alot more for other wax jobs which we are all familiar with?

Im still learning how to upsell.
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will usually last 3-4 weeks...but remember you want em back for another job ;)
 
D156 usually lasts me about 3-4 weeks. One good thing about it is that you can use it on pretty much all exterior surfaces. Paint, trim, glass, etc...

This is D156 at 3 weeks. Truck sits outside 24/7 and was washed about 1.5 weeks before.

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D156 lasted 2-3 weeks for me, Optimum Car Wax lasted 2 months for me.

Imo, the lengths you have to go to avoid streaking with Optimum Car Wax is not worth the extra durability. I live in Florida with no garage so I can never get optimal results with it.

D156 on the other hand works great in the sun, and is just so user friendly!!

Highly recommend D156!!!!!
 
ihaveacamaro said:
D156 lasted 2-3 weeks for me, Optimum Car Wax lasted 2 months for me.

Imo, the lengths you have to go to avoid streaking with Optimum Car Wax is not worth the extra durability. I live in Florida with no garage so I can never get optimal results with it.

D156 on the other hand works great in the sun, and is just so user friendly!!

Highly recommend D156!!!!!
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Can you use it as a drying aid when car is still wet without streaking?
 
Italian Guy said:
Can you use it as a drying aid when car is still wet without streaking?
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Hey Chris, pmfji here... but... Yes and no. ;)

I've noticed it makes a difference depending on how wet it is. If say you've hit it with a blower and it's half dry, it seems to do fine. I don't think it likes getting cut/diluted as much as it does with the car is soaked. I've noticed also if the car is soaked, AND the sun is shining it's not worth the hassle of doing it twice. I'll just dry it then do 156.

OTOH, DG951 does have better manners with a wetter car. And as you may know, it has excellent manners with a dry car. (Just as M156 does.)

(Both of these are my "go to's" btw.) Both do respond well to polycharging though, which brings durability easily to 6~8 weeks in the harshest conditions. (Which here is hot, humid, and raining every afternoon here lately.) I'd still say though that 951 has a slicker, smoother feel (both with and without 'charging'). But... out of the bottle, on a dry surface, I'd give the durability edge to 156.

So to summarize, 1 smells better and feels better, the other smells worse (but I like it) and lasts longer. :)
 
Italian Guy said:
Can you use it as a drying aid when car is still wet without streaking?
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I have PB Spray and Gloss

So I called them the other day to ask them if I could use it prior to drying the car. (drying aid) They said "yes, go for it. It will be like killing two birds with one stone."

I dry my car by placing my CG Wooly Mammoth towel on the wet panels and lightly tap/smooth it dry. I imagine having a leaf blower will dilute it even less.

I have only sprayed Pinnacle WW because of the carnauba. The Pinnacle WW seems to add some extra shine, plus I figure any little extra helps.

Haven't tried the PB's spray and gloss yet. (Full Time College Student) lol
 
A customer will usually take his or her car through a touch-less car wash of some sort so if it lasts me 3 weeks with the products I use I give it 1-2 through a coupe touch-less washes
 
BradsDetailing said:
A customer will usually take his or her car through a touch-less car wash of some sort so if it lasts me 3 weeks with the products I use I give it 1-2 through a coupe touch-less washes
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This is the KEY. It is how they wash it and most want to go to the touchless washes or the spray washes. All of these use pretty strong chemical soaps that strip waxes because people don't want to touch the car and want it clean quick. The more education might need to focus on the washing to keep the longevity of whatever product you decide to promote.
 
ayankeeman1968 said:
Hey guys help out a new geek please. When I try selling a spray wax job to a customer I want to tell him/her the most that a good spray wax will last them.

So what is the durability on say a D156?

Thats for when they dont want to spend alot more for other wax jobs which we are all familiar with?

Im still learning how to upsell.
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A couple of other questions that I believe are worth asking:
-Is Meguiar's D156 (per your example) actually a wax (natural); or a sealant (synthetic)?

-Given identical environmental-exposures/maintenance-washes, etc...
Will a spray-sealant last longer than a spray-wax; or: vice versa? Either way: Why?


NOTE:
Whenever someone is trying to "upsell" me a service, regardless of its nature...I prefer to be told the truth.


:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
A couple of other questions that I believe are worth asking:
-Is Meguiar's D156 (per your example) actually a wax (natural); or a sealant (synthetic)?

-Given identical environmental-exposures/maintenance-washes, etc...
Will a spray-sealant last longer than a spray-wax; or: vice versa? Either way: Why?


NOTE:
Whenever someone is trying to "upsell" me a service, regardless of its nature...I prefer to be told the truth.


:)

Bob
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I think it's a wax, isn't the 135 a spray sealant?
I think a sealant will hold on longer if the prep is right ( not putting in on a waxed car but on a sealed one)
and I think a sealant can be used on trim to
 
2shiny said:
I think it's a wax

I know from personal experience that it's often difficult to understand how car-care companies
label/name their products for their targeted marketing base...

However...
I've held true to the belief-system espoused by Meguiar's spokespersons that from day one of its production:
Meguiars D156 Synthetic X-press Spray Wax is, indeed, a 'synthetic wax'...id est: A Sealant.
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2shiny said:
isn't the 135 a spray sealant?

^^^Kinda^^^
M135 is a: totally synthetic spray detailer.
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2shiny said:
I think a sealant will hold on longer if the prep is right ( not putting in on a waxed car but on a sealed one)
and I think a sealant can be used on trim to

Quite possible.
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A little off-topic:
What do you use to totally remove old waxes from vehicles? Thanks.


:)

Bob
 
I agree with the rest on D156 except it's not really a wax it is a synthetic sealant with more sealant properties than wax properties.

A good combo I have found that works well for about 6 weeks (can upload pics later tonight) if you want to go with the sprays is D156 topped with Xmt 360.

Both are cheap and work great together. Use the D156 first then top it with Xmt 360.

Gallon for gallon it is a good combo and last on avg 5-6 weeks and will still bead water great if garaged. Non garaged will be about 4-5 weeks. The perk is they are both cheap, Have great reviews, And work great in the sun if you don't have coverage and are working in direct sunlight. For the price it is hard to beat and clients love the smell. Def worth considering.
 
I want to remind everyone that I have not found one customer who washes their cars like the majority of us here. If they take it through a touchless the spray wax or sealant will be severely diminished so keep that in mind. You don't want to advertise 3-4 weeks and as soon as they take it through a wash it's gone a week later.
 
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