SSR1 destroying my finish?

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after so many rave reviews of ssr1 as a finishing polish, i got some along with teh recommended soft green pad to use. i used my 3m swirl remover and ended up with a pretty good finish, some light swirls remained here and there, so i hit the area with some ssr1 and to my dismay the surface ended up worse than when i started. confused i redid the 3m swirl and and tried again with the ssr1 this time different speed on the GG DA, started with a 5 now try a 3, same results - again tried it with 6, same results.

am i doing something wrong - i am trying to follow the instructional videos that are posted on here, and keep getting crap results.

is there a trick to it? ami doing something horribly wrong?

i wish i had a picture of it, but i do not. i am trying to use the stuff i have but every new product i get i continue to return to the 3m swirl remover.

to finish the car with 3m swirl remover on a white pad, shining monkey polish (i have it and want to use it up) on a black pad, PB BH by hand, DP PC by hand and it looks great, a few deeper swirls remain.

whats up with the ssr1, is my bottle defective? am i totally screwing it up? wrong pad, wrong speed? not long enough? too long?


any ideas? would love some help...
 
Sub'd. I have used SSR1 also and while my results aren't horrible i've been wondering if there could be better techniques to get the finish i'd like...
 
while i dont have too much experience using SSR1 you might want to try a white pad on speed 5 or 6. Im assuming the speed is similiar to the PC speed setting. you must make sure you've broken down the product enough before wiping so did you cover enough area to let the product properly break down? move your arm speed slower and allow the product to break down.
 
is breaking down a product only really useful when it's a diminishing abrasive? or does it apply to all abrasives?

i thought i was allowing it to break down, it had just started to dust when i pulled it off, i pulled it off before it dusted and i pulled it off super early - all witht eh same results.
 
i use spray and gloss to prep the pad then apply an ample amount before my first pass. did you prep the pad?
 
if it was dusting then you used what was on the pad
 
elk42 said:
i use spray and gloss to prep the pad then apply an ample amount before my first pass. did you prep the pad?
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i pulled the pad out of the bag (brand new) put the ssr1 on it, planted it on the surface dragged it across the surface (not on) then started on speed 1/2 covered the area, then cranked it up to 4-5-6 each time. so if that's not prepping hte pad.... then no :o
 
ive tried using ssr1 by hand before and that wasnt a good idea so ive been abit weary of using it with my PC but as i mentioned before, prep the pad with an detailer spray or even with the SSr1 itself. sorry for the inconvience you're having.

If the problem still exists, try a more powerful polish but lesser than your 3m cut. i have Meguiar's D151 paint reconditioning creme and menzerna power finish 203. they work great imo. good luck. elk
 
I've noticed this with SSR1 myself even using a white pad. Initially I thought I wasn't allowing it to break down but that doesnt seem to be the case. I hope someone can shed some light on this.

On the other hand, I used Menzerna Micro Polish and it fixed it right up. It appears SSR1 isnt a very fine abrasive polish after all...maybe not good for a finishing polish.
 
^^ i'm glad i am not the only one to have this problem. i even tried it by hand, and the finish just got progressively worse the longer i did it.
 
jahman said:
I've noticed this with SSR1 myself even using a white pad. Initially I thought I wasn't allowing it to break down but that doesnt seem to be the case. I hope someone can shed some light on this.

On the other hand, I used Menzerna Micro Polish and it fixed it right up. It appears SSR1 isnt a very fine abrasive polish after all...maybe not good for a finishing polish.
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Your were working it right. Its just that the product is Junk. You would get better results getting your polish at Dollar General then to use the garbage Poorboys World puts out. You will never see any profesionals using Steves line of products

Steve has tried in vain to compete with Menzerna, but just doesn't have what it takes. I almost ruined the finish on a S65 using Poorboys World products. IMO you should toss that garbage in the round file cabinet :props:
 
it's a strange situation. I've used SSR2.5 with great results. It finishes great and removes a lot of swirls.

SSR1 though....always leave's me questioning....
 
Flash Gordon said:
Your were working it right. Its just that the product is Junk. You would get better results getting your polish at Dollar General then to use the garbage Poorboys World puts out. You will never see any profesionals using Steves line of products

Steve has tried in vain to compete with Menzerna, but just doesn't have what it takes. I almost ruined the finish on a S65 using Poorboys World products. IMO you should toss that garbage in the round file cabinet :props:
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions...but to bash a vendor and use comments that degrading is a little out of line IMO. I really don't think Steve is out to compete with Menzerna and that's completely besides the point of this thread. Steve is a good guy and puts out quality products, otherwise he wouldn't have been in business this long. Poorboy's products continue to be one of our hottest selling lines, year in and year out.

Thread starter - if you mentioned what type of car you're working on, I must have missed it. Can you please elaborate? This is a pretty big factor IMO. If you're not getting a finishing polish to break down properly using a soft pad on a DA, the next step would be go to a white polishing pad. But some polishes may not finish down nicely on certain paints - my S2000 is definitely a perfect example of this as it hates Menzerna polishes. Am I going to bash Menzerna because of it? No, because I know Menzerna polishes are among the best; it just happens to work out that my paint does not like them.
 
thanks Matt ... this thread was brought to my attention ...

SSR1 is a finishing polish and should be used with the softest pad you have and worked until it disappears and a shine pops through. If you stop before the shine is popping through, you may end up with micro-marring.
 
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Everyone is entitled to their opinions...but to bash a vendor and use comments that degrading is a little out of line IMO. I really don't think Steve is out to compete with Menzerna and that's completely besides the point of this thread. Steve is a good guy and puts out quality products, otherwise he wouldn't have been in business this long. Poorboy's products continue to be one of our hottest selling lines, year in and year out.
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Oh, I'm sorry. IMO I thought we were suppose to give are Honest Evaluations

Steve sent me samples of ssr1, ssr2 and ssr2.5 to test out when he changed the formula last year. And yes, he specifically told me his "New Product Line" was devoleped to compete with Menzerna.

I wasn't even aware you guys (Autogeek) sold his product line. It also seems per this thread there are alot of others having issues using Poorboys World ssr1

From this point on I will reserve my thoughts for this line of product to the other 15 Detailing Forums I belong to :props:

Kind Regards,

Flash

P.S. Turtle Wax has been in business a looong time also :laughing:
 
Flash Gordon said:
Oh, I'm sorry. IMO I thought we were suppose to give are Honest Evaluations

Steve sent me samples of ssr1, ssr2 and ssr2.5 to test out when he changed the formula last year. And yes, he specifically told me his "New Product Line" was devoleped to compete with Menzerna.

I wasn't even aware you guys (Autogeek) sold his product line. It also seems per this thread there are alot of others having issues using Poorboys World ssr1

From this point on I will reserve my thoughts for this line of product to the other 15 Detailing Forums I belong to :props:

Kind Regards,

Flash

P.S. Turtle Wax has been in business a looong time also :laughing:
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Honest evaluations are fine, and like I said, everyone is entitled to voice their opinion. Just keep it clean, that's all I ask.
 
somguy2u said:
am i doing something wrong - i am trying to follow the instructional videos that are posted on here, and keep getting crap results.

is there a trick to it? ami doing something horribly wrong?

i wish i had a picture of it, but i do not. i am trying to use the stuff i have but every new product i get i continue to return to the 3m swirl remover.

to finish the car with 3m swirl remover on a white pad, shining monkey polish (i have it and want to use it up) on a black pad, PB BH by hand, DP PC by hand and it looks great, a few deeper swirls remain.

whats up with the ssr1, is my bottle defective? am i totally screwing it up? wrong pad, wrong speed? not long enough? too long?


any ideas? would love some help...
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There are a few possibilities on why you're experiencing marring with SSR1.

Either you have a defective bottle of SSR1, or

The pad has some sort of abrasives on it, or

Your technique is bad, or

Your not letting the polish break down.

There's possibly more explanations, but I can't think of them right now. However I do have many Poorboy's products, including some of their polishes like SSR2, and I must say that they produce excellent products. I have never had any problems with a Poorboy's product. Ever! I will also say that in the last few years I've only had a problem with one product, a rotary backing plate unable to hold the pads on, that's all. So don't judge the Poorboy's line on this one instance, because there are thousands of satisfied detailer's that use Poorboy's line with complete satisfaction. If I were you, I'd ask for an exchange and hope you got a defective product and not bad technique.

Btw, what kind of "green" pad are you using?
 
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