thanks guys and yes know i live in cali. I'm a puss when it comes to the cold its 48 here and I'm freezing. not use to the cold. Prefer my hot days. I had layers of clothes on, long sleeve, a sweater, jacket, and snowboard jacket and still froze, but bought a small heather for the garage that kept me somewhat warm when drying my truck. I need to invest in some waterless car wash and some long rubber gloves. Also have jack daniels honey whiskey