Still a little confused. Neebie advice needed?

[chris7469]

Mike / Gentlemen:

I want to detail my 2011 Black Maserati GT S coupe with 5,000 miles. The car is in excellent condition, garage kept at home and at the office and driven 6,000 miles each year.


If I put my nose about an inch or two from the paint or stare at it in direct sunlight I notice some swirls. They appear to be fine swirls? I am not sure how to tell the difference? They say these cars have medium paint?


I used a porter cable 7424, Meguairs #9, a polish, and Zaino over the years on my white coupe with great results. However, I am now dealing with a black car and I am trying to take my detailing and results to another level. This is what I am thinking about using:

Step 1 - XMT Swirl Remover #2, apply with Orange Light cutting pad
Step 2 - XMT Swirl Remover #1, apply with White polishing pad
Step 3 - XMT Finishing Glaze, apply with finishing foam or grey pad

Final - Follow up with Souveran Paste wax.

As an amateur, here are my questions

Do I need XMT Swirl Remover #3? Will that be too aggressive? I do NOT want to damage the paint ? Then is it a 4 step process?

Do I have to use #2, then #1 then the glaze for the best results? ( Is it always a three step process no matter which product? )

Are there better / easier products then Pinnacle XMT for the porter cable?


I am also considering the Wolfgang Twins?


OR the Menzerna Products? ( Which ones do I want? )


Any and all suggestions, advice and or comments are appreciated!!Feed back please

Thanks. CM

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Mike / Gentlemen:

I want to detail my 2011 Black Maserati GT S coupe with 5,000 miles. The car is in excellent condition, garage kept at home and at the office and driven 6,000 miles each year.

Something like this,

If I put my nose about an inch or two from the paint or stare at it in direct sunlight I notice some swirls. They appear to be fine swirls? I am not sure how to tell the difference? They say these cars have medium paint?

Regardless of how deep or shallow the swirls are you want to take the least aggressive approach to removing swirls but chances are very good at a minimum you'll need a medium cut polish. Also you'll need either some foam cutting and/or polishing pads to remove the swirls.

I used a porter cable 7424, Meguairs #9, a polish, and Zaino over the years on my white coupe with great results. However, I am now dealing with a black car and I am trying to take my detailing and results to another level.

The #9 is a very light cutting polish and can leave micro-marring when used with a DA Polisher on some paints. Of course you wouldn't see any micro-marring on white paint.

I am also considering the Wolfgang Twins?

OR the Menzerna Products? ( Which ones do I want? )

Definitely go with either the Wolfgang Twins or Menzerna polishes.

If you have a first generation Porter Cable, that is you don't have the XP model that came out within the last 3 years then also get 5.5" flat foam pads from Lake Country as ALL PC style tools have an easier time rotating these size pads.

I have a ton of articles on buffing out paint using a DA Polisher. My first how-to book focuses on the PC style DA Polisher and I have a number of DVD's on the topic plus videos on YouTube.

Resources

Paperback


Mike Phillips' Principles of Machine Polishing


E-book
(Displayed on iPad - iPad not included)

Mike Phillips' The Art Of Detailing Audio Book

Here's a link to the Wolfgang Twins you want to get,

The Wolfgang Twins


Occasionally I get a Private Message asking what the Wolfgang Twins are so this is a simple thread that shows the products with link to their pages on the Autogeek.net store.


The Wolfgang Twins
Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0 16 oz
Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0 16 oz

In simple terms...

The Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover is medium strength swirl mark remover that will tackle a majority of the cars that most people reading this will ever tackle.

The Wolfgang Finishing Glaze is a very light finishing polish that will refine the results created by the Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover and leave a clear, haze-free finish.


For most projects you would,

Step 1 - Wash and dry car

Step 2 - Inspect paint for above surface bonded contaminants
If discovered, use detailing clay to remove the contaminants, see this article.

Step 3 - Remover Swirls
At this step you would use the Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover

Step 4 - Polish to a high gloss
At this step you would use the Finishing Glaze

Step 5 - Seal and protect paint
At this step you would apply your LSP or Last Step Product, this could be a wax or a paint sealant. A popular choice that keeps you in the Wolfgang family would be to follow the Finishing Glaze with Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0

Then if you want you can top the WDGPS with Wolfgang Fuzion.
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This car had the above process used over the for a swirl free, show car finish.

1994 Porsche Detailed for "Operation Comfort" Modeled by Brittany from Stuart, Florida

Anyone can get show car results the first time!
This black Porsche was also buffed out using the Wolfgang Twins followed by Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant and Fuzion.

Proof You Can Do It! - Joe The Detailer - Black Porsche Turned into Black Pearl!

Any paint system, any car...
Here's an example of one of our forum members removing rotary buffers swirls using the Wolfgang Twins on his 350Z


How To Remove Horrible Rotary Buffer Swirl Marks out of a 350Z using the Wolfgang Twins


Before - Rotary Buffer Swirls Everywhere in the paint

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After - A 100% Swirl Free Finish

Wolfgang Paint Correction and Finishing System

Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0 16 oz
Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0 16 oz
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0
Wolfgang Fuzion


Together with any of the DA Polishers and foam buffing pads Autogeek offers anyone can get show car results in their garage!



Here's a link to an article I wrote on Menzerna polishes with their new names and links to them on the AG Store. Go with the SI 1500 and the SF 4000 and you're guaranteed success.

Menzerna - New Names and Product Numbers


Menzerna has introduced all new labels and product names for identifying their products. I know it's easy to stick with what you know and change can be hard but the new product names and identifying numbers are here to stay so might as well make the switch when talking and typing about them..

PG 1000 – PowerGloss Compound (S34A)


SI 1500 – Super Intensive Polish (PO83)


IP 2000 – Intensive Polish (PO91E)


PF 2500 – Power Finish Polish (PO203)


FF 3000 – Final Finish Polish (PO85U)


SF 4000 – Super Finish Polish (PO106FA)


SF 4500 – Super Finish Polish (PO85RD)


Menzerna Power Lock Polymer Paint Sealant

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[Becciasm]

Mike / Gentlemen:

I want to detail my 2011 Black Maserati GT S coupe with 5,000 miles. The car is in excellent condition, garage kept at home and at the office and driven 6,000 miles each year.

Wait.. What?

 

[chris7469]

Thank you very much!

Wait.. What?

Mike thanks!

Sorry for the crazy post, I just bought the car with 5,000 miles on it, to give you an idea of how the paint condition may be? I only drive 6,000 miles each year. CM

 

[Becciasm]

Re: Thank you very much!

Mike thanks!

Sorry for the crazy post, I just bought the car with 5,000 miles on it, to give you an idea of how the paint condition may be? I only drive 6,000 miles each year. CM

No worries. Thanks for the clarification. !! :xyxthumbs:

 

[chris7469]

Bought everything from AG last night! Thanks.

Love this site! Thanks for all the suggestions!

Last night I purchased from AG:

6 5.5 inch flat LC Pads, 2 orange, 2 white and 2 blue
Wolfgang Twins
Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint sealant.

I just recently bought Pinnacle Souveran Paste wax that I was going to use to top off the Deep Gloss Sealant. Is that a good or bad idea?

Lastly, I read the Deep Gloss Sealant has to cure for 12 hours? Can I drive the car in dry conditions after I put it on, or must it remain in the garage for 12 more hours?

Thanks. CM

 

[Bunky]

Re: Bought everything from AG last night! Thanks.

Lastly, I read the Deep Gloss Sealant has to cure for 12 hours? Can I drive the car in dry conditions after I put it on, or must it remain in the garage for 12 more hours?

Thanks. CM

You can top with a nuba but I would allow it to cure.

You can drive it as soon as you really want.

As time progresses, the risk of harm liquid supposedly does diminishes dramatically.