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More of THIS ^^^^^

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ntwillie1 said:
I wanted to mention a few more things - I have continued to support my local businesses and restaurants as much as possible although I am sure my gasoline station misses me, lol.

I worked in NYC when 911 happened. I had just left my job at WTC a year before the attacks. My wife had just come out of the train station at WTC when the first plane hit. When the cell towers went out and I couldn’t reach her I feared the worst. We’ve lived through chaos before and survived it. We will survive it again. At a time like this, we should just help each other out as much as possible.

I have also offered my IT services to my local church and school district although they have not needed it yet. And we have purchased bows to display on our front lawn that represent our support for first responders and all proceeds go to helping feed them.

Now, whats this cute baby goat pic about? Someone please clue me in.

And I wish everyone an amazing weekend. Its raining right now where I live but if it clears up I will go for a walk w my kids and then wash the car.


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When people start to get all hot and heated the baby goat will magically appear from time to time to diffuse the situation.

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TTQ B4U said:
$100k isn't what it used to be when that phrase was really impactful.
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"Location, location, location..." as the Real Estate folks say.

If you can't live a very comfortable life in most areas of the country on $100k per year, your reach is possibly exceeding your grasp.

Always exceptions, mitigating circumstances but in general I'd like to think $100k would leave one w reserves to weather a 2 month 'break' in income while maintaining a suitable standard of living.

It'll definately leave a fiscal 'dent' that'll take a bit of time to repair but life seems to be a collection of ups and downs regardless.
 
ntwillie1 said:
Ttq - I understand your point.
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Cool. Clearly we align on more things than we differ. My reply was mainly around the point about the gov't flat out giving it to everyone. I tend to agree but just needed to clarify because many out there (not necessarily you), think six figures is a lot of money and that attorney's or professionals alike making decent money should be lumped into the the group that flat-out don't need it, when in fact most do. Each situation is different.

ntwillie1 said:
Now, whats this cute baby goat pic about?
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have not a clue.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
If you can't live a very comfortable life in most areas of the country on $100k per year, your reach is possibly exceeding your grasp.
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all depends on ones definition of comfortable as that scale is infinite.

Always exceptions, mitigating circumstances but in general I'd like to think $100k would leave one w reserves to weather a 2 month 'break' in income while maintaining a suitable standard of living.
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Agree. IMO financially sound rules are 6-12 months living expenses, especially since the 08-09 recession.
 
This is going to sound AHish in a way I think by growing up with a struggling single-family household it helped me deal with living on a limited budget at this point I'm not really affected and still can work (but limited). The way people are losing their mind right now is a nightmare to watch. Like I saw on the news people Michigan showed up to the government buildings with guns by the hundreds complaining about being at home with one people holding a sign saying this seems like slavery. I'm like is this what u think slavery is like? All they basically was did was just make the quarantine even longer.

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TTQ B4U said:
all depends on ones definition of comfortable as that scale is infinite.
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And therein lies the rub methinks.

I tend to think of comfortable as being able to enjoy *some* of the things I want to do w no regards to fiscal considerations and future worry. Others seem to think comfortable is being able to enjoy *all* the things they want to do.
 
Just to comment, let's keep the discussion on the nice side of life, avoid going negative and personal.

Also just to note - the last time America had a financial crisis back in 2008, all the bailout money went to big banks, solar power farms, cash for clunkers, etc. and not the people. There was a lot of talk about "Shovel Ready Jobs", but I think the solar panel fiascos used up that budget.

So at least the intentions for this new endeavor are in the right direction - in my opinion.

I think the execution would be problematic no matter who is in charge simply due to the scale and complexity of society. No one's fault.

I trust the masses getting any funds over banks.


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My hope is that anyone who receives stimulus money and "doesn't need it" goes out and 1) donates it, or 2) quickly spends it on products from local small business. That's really what it's for.
 
BudgetPlan1 said:
And therein lies the rub methinks.

I tend to think of comfortable as being able to enjoy *some* of the things I want to do w no regards to fiscal considerations and future worry. Others seem to think comfortable is being able to enjoy *all* the things they want to do.
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No Rub. I feel the same. However running businesses isn't without cost to do so thus for example a law practice or property mgt company or other businesses that my wife and I run aren't free to do so. Furloughing employees because cash flow from businesses halted isn't something we can simply wish away. Being a business owner entails fiscal considerations and dealing with the future whether it is in our area of comfort or not.

bofh said:
My hope is that anyone who receives stimulus money and "doesn't need it" goes out and 1) donates it, or 2) quickly spends it on products from local small business. That's really what it's for.
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invest it. the market is on sale right now.
 
My wife and I are still employed, full time working, we're banking ours. Just some extra money to buy the farm one day, save it up.
 
ClearVue18 said:
This is going to sound AHish in a way I think by growing up with a struggling single-family household it helped me deal with living on a limited budget at this point I'm not really affected and still can work (but limited). The way people are losing their mind right now is a nightmare to watch. Like I saw on the news people Michigan showed up to the government buildings with guns by the hundreds complaining about being at home with one people holding a sign saying this seems like slavery. I'm like is this what u think slavery is like? All they basically was did was just make the quarantine even longer.

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The people showing up are simply expressing what Ben said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

The initial halt on things was needed to overcome being caught off guard and to prep the healthcare system for the day-forward needs that will continue to be there. This virus isn't going anywhere so it's just a matter of necessity to prepare for handling the casualties and outcome of it being in our society now and likely for many years.

The rub is the system and our leaders have since moved the goal posts, put no real steak in the ground around a time that is FIRM to get back open and deal with it as we continue to build our economy. Their lack of vision and overreach of power is what is really ticking people off.

Again, time to face the reality and get back on the horse of life before even longer term and much deeper damage is done. What the economy is experiencing is a chemo-treatment and even those done go on forever for obvious reasons. Those that are going to live in fear need to figure out a plan to overcome that and move on. We can't bury our head in the sand forever and life is all about mitigating risk and accepting the casualties that come from our freedoms. People are going to continue to get sick from this and die as well. That's life and again, it's not going anywhere. Even a vaccine isn't 100% and this too will likely mutate just as the flue does. A vaccine is just a little more effective mitigation is all.
 
TTQ B4U said:
No Rub. I feel the same. However running businesses isn't without cost to do so thus for example a law practice or property mgt company or other businesses that my wife and I run aren't free to do so. Furloughing employees because cash flow from businesses halted isn't something we can simply wish away. Being a business owner entails fiscal considerations and dealing with the future whether it is in our area of comfort or not.
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Can't even imagine the catastrophic effect this will all have on countless small businesses when all is said and done.

Figuring out how to mitigate that would reach farther than one time 'bonus checks' to the general population.
 
TTQ B4U said:
The people showing up are simply expressing what Ben said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

The initial halt on things was needed to overcome being caught off guard and to prep the healthcare system for the day-forward needs that will continue to be there. This virus isn't going anywhere so it's just a matter of necessity to prepare for handling the casualties and outcome of it being in our society now and likely for many years.

The rub is the system and our leaders have since moved the goal posts, put no real steak in the ground around a time that is FIRM to get back open and deal with it as we continue to build our economy. Their lack of vision and overreach of power is what is really ticking people off.

Again, time to face the reality and get back on the horse of life before even longer term and much deeper damage is done. What the economy is experiencing is a chemo-treatment and even those done go on forever for obvious reasons. Those that are going to live in fear need to figure out a plan to overcome that and move on. We can't bury our head in the sand forever and life is all about mitigating risk and accepting the casualties that come from our freedoms. People are going to continue to get sick from this and die as well. That's life and again, it's not going anywhere. Even a vaccine isn't 100% and this too will likely mutate just as the flue does. A vaccine is just a little more effective mitigation is all.
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Mmmm the people showing up with guns is going to accomplish what? Last time I checked the government wasn't beating people with whips and chains in order to get rid of Rona so comparing it to slavery not making much sense to me. All they did was make the quarantine and even longer than what it currently is.

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Gubbamint took away my freedom to drive 100mph in a school zone. I think maybe I'll go protest that, too...
 
I assume your talking about the situation in Michigan, my home state, If so, it probably started out as a logical protest but turned into a Trump rally with "those people", you know, 12 huge flags in the back of a rusty pick up truck, Don't tread on me flags, people dressed like Captain America, etc. Now just to be clear, I didn't vote for Trump and certainly didn't vote for that Beast either but I understand the message but wish "they" would just lay down next to their bowls and let the protesters make their points without "them" ruining for the rest of the group legitimately being there to make a single point.

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ClearVue18 said:
Mmmm the people showing up with guns is going to accomplish what? Last time I checked the government wasn't beating people with whips and chains in order to get rid of Rona so comparing it to slavery not making much sense to me. All they did was make the quarantine and even longer than what it currently is.

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Were any rounds discharged? Nope. Point made that our rights are important and the display of b our 2A gets attention doesn't it?

Nothing done extended the quarantine. That's up to the leaders.

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bofh said:
Give the stimulus money to big business? No thanks, that's not the point of the stimulus (theoretically).
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There's more to investing that big business.

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pro 4x said:
Heard today was the day.

$1200 DD in the account as of this morning.
I am one of the lucky ones to still be working.
So this money will just be banked.
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Congratulations!

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Additionally:
•Now that PA.’s Governor Tim Wolf has effectuated
Pennsylvania’s joining with “the coalition” of North-
eastern states of New Jersey, New York, Connecticut,
Delaware, Rhode Island and Massachusetts...

-I wish you nothing but the best...
as this “coalition” coordinates the reopening
of their respective economies.


[Yet, for some odd reason, the old saying:
”Beware the (Tim) Wolf at the door!”
keeps coming to mind.]


In the meantime: I’ve got ol’
“never mind DeWine” to contend with.


Bob
 
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