I don't use any wax on my cars...just me. I do use paint sealants/polishers, though. As I'm getting older and lazier, I'd like to use a good "quick detailer" every now and then. I'm presently using Blackfire Wet Diamond and Crystal Seal. Please suggest an appropriate QD to use during my lazy moments. Thanks.
Suggest an appropriate QD after a paint sealant?
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BudgetPlan1
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FinishKare 425 or Kenotech Showroom shine are rather well thought of or you could get into some of the Polish Angel Spritzes at a bit higher cost. Not sure if the PA stuff is considered a true QD though.
Paul A.
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Pinnacle Crystal Mist is my all time favorite. I am still trying to finish my bottle of BFWD sealant and reapply that LSP about every 3-4 months. After every weekly wash i dry then wipe in Crystal Mist and it looks phenomenal again as if i just LSP'ed it. The gloss and slickness is out of this world. It's an easy 10-15 mins. to apply with a good, clean MF.
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Are you looking for a actuall Quick Detailer you can use for minor touch ups like bird droppings and finger prints, or a spray wax as a booster? By the sounds of things, you're after a spray wax.
I like Blackfire Wet Diamond Polymer Spray and Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax the best. For my tastes, they aren't interchangeable. I'd would use one or the other based on color/paint type on the vehicle.
I like Blackfire Wet Diamond Polymer Spray and Meguiars Ultimate Quik Wax the best. For my tastes, they aren't interchangeable. I'd would use one or the other based on color/paint type on the vehicle.
Eldorado2k
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@flycaster. You and I speak the same language. I too hate "spray waxes" because I don't want/need anything interfering with my dedicated coat of sealant that I lay down.. I hate spray waxes to the point that I Never use them on my own paint.
A week ago I got a gallon of Meguiars Last Touch, and I'm liking this stuff more and more everyday. I normally had Megs D114 available, but if you've ever used it as a quik detailer/waterless wash you know it's not exactly the best "feeling" stuff as you're tediously trying to wipe down your moderately dusty/dirty vehicle while ensuring it remains swirl free.
But this stuff, whooo man. This stuff is slicker than nobody's business! And it packs a respectable punch too, meaning I have at least twice the confidence of using it compared to D114 as a waterless. I also have Megs D115, but it's basically useless for me here at home as I'm not even 1% interested in the "wax" it leaves behind.
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I went outside just now to see whether my lsp had been altered from having used Last Touch twice in the past 7 days, it's also rained 2 days in this past week.
Here's what my hood looked like right now. [the flash on the camera turned everything white. That's my coat of sealant looking strong as heck]
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After hitting it with the hose nozzle on shower setting, I can confirm that my coat of sealant has not been altered, and it's a beading machine just the way it should be. Successful results.
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If you hate your lsp being hijacked by these dang spray products these days that try to do more than they're good for.. Then you've heard my recommendation. Megs Last Touch gets it right!
A week ago I got a gallon of Meguiars Last Touch, and I'm liking this stuff more and more everyday. I normally had Megs D114 available, but if you've ever used it as a quik detailer/waterless wash you know it's not exactly the best "feeling" stuff as you're tediously trying to wipe down your moderately dusty/dirty vehicle while ensuring it remains swirl free.
But this stuff, whooo man. This stuff is slicker than nobody's business! And it packs a respectable punch too, meaning I have at least twice the confidence of using it compared to D114 as a waterless. I also have Megs D115, but it's basically useless for me here at home as I'm not even 1% interested in the "wax" it leaves behind.
View attachment 53231
I went outside just now to see whether my lsp had been altered from having used Last Touch twice in the past 7 days, it's also rained 2 days in this past week.
Here's what my hood looked like right now. [the flash on the camera turned everything white. That's my coat of sealant looking strong as heck]
View attachment 53232
After hitting it with the hose nozzle on shower setting, I can confirm that my coat of sealant has not been altered, and it's a beading machine just the way it should be. Successful results.
View attachment 53233
If you hate your lsp being hijacked by these dang spray products these days that try to do more than they're good for.. Then you've heard my recommendation. Megs Last Touch gets it right!
WaxMaster1
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We don't need to know this kind of info. Let's stick to detailing. :xyxthumbs:
FUNX650
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Not sure if my definitions of
"good QD" and "appropriate QD"
are the same as yours...
But since I don't like for my choice
of a Sealant and its characteristics
to be affected by the use of paint
cleaning products, such as QDs...
I prefer to use Meguiar's D114.
Do you have any?
Note:
Nick is in the process of getting a
D114 replacement product ready
for introduction---post haste; at
least that is my wish.
Bob
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Hey Bob, what's not to like about LT?
So far IME, it's has the benefits of D114, except it doesn't feel like having my teeth pulled while being awake.
You got something against Pina Coladas or what?
So far IME, it's has the benefits of D114, except it doesn't feel like having my teeth pulled while being awake.
You got something against Pina Coladas or what?
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Wow, guys, a ton of good suggestions. However, I think I didn't make my request as clear as I could when I used the word "appropriate." "Appropriate" needs a little more definition...I think. I would be using the QD after washing the car and I want to use a QD that won't interfere with the way sealants bond to the paint/clearcoat in the future.
Eldorado2k
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Boo this man! Lmao
... In that case, just get yourself some regular Meguiars Quik Detailer, in the maroon bottle.
FUNX650
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That's why you'd want a product
exactly like Meguiar's D114.
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Since when is the "WaxMaster" not interested in hearing about waxing of any kind? Do I sense a bit of jealousy here?
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LT looks like a product I'd like to use, but I do have a question about how to properly use it. OK, let's say I've been using LT for a couple of months and now I would like to do some Blackfire Clear Crystal. Will I have to do anything special like wash the car with Dawn or wipe it down with alcohol before washing to get rid of the LT, or can I just use my regular car soap, do the BFCC, and then do the LT after the next washing? As you an see, my concern is the that LT may interfere with the BFCC's bonding.
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Blackfire Crystal Seal is just a liquid sealant right? Yea no problem at all. [at least I'm pretty sure 99% since it doesn't affect my process]
Just wash the car with your normL car wash soap and as long as you're passing the baggie test, proceed straight to sealant.
LT doesn't leave any gimmicky hydrophobic layers on your paint. It doesn't claim to magically blend with, top, or extend your current lsp [it sort of does, but if you read through the lines all they really mean is your lsp will last longer for the fact that your surface is remaining cleaner most of the time by using this, as opposed to remaining dirty all week, taking a beating until you bucket wash it]
LT doesn't contain wax. Doesn't contain sealant. It's main objective and quality is it's lubricity. Super slick while using it in order to do what a quik detailer is supposed to do. That same slickness remains shortly after its been applied, which of course helps keep your paint less dusty than normL for a bit [I'm guessing 1-2 days] And of course with slickness comes a bit of added gloss as a natural good side effect.
But that lubricity is just that, and not anything that alters your protection and it's original behavior.
Just wash the car with your normL car wash soap and as long as you're passing the baggie test, proceed straight to sealant.
LT doesn't leave any gimmicky hydrophobic layers on your paint. It doesn't claim to magically blend with, top, or extend your current lsp [it sort of does, but if you read through the lines all they really mean is your lsp will last longer for the fact that your surface is remaining cleaner most of the time by using this, as opposed to remaining dirty all week, taking a beating until you bucket wash it]
LT doesn't contain wax. Doesn't contain sealant. It's main objective and quality is it's lubricity. Super slick while using it in order to do what a quik detailer is supposed to do. That same slickness remains shortly after its been applied, which of course helps keep your paint less dusty than normL for a bit [I'm guessing 1-2 days] And of course with slickness comes a bit of added gloss as a natural good side effect.
But that lubricity is just that, and not anything that alters your protection and it's original behavior.
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Curious as to why anyone hasn't mentioned Uber Rinseless mixed to QD ratio?
Eldorado2k
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I'm guessing it's because the 1st thought that comes to mind is it's a rinseless 1st, and it being a quik detailer is somewhat of an afterthought. Especially in this case where the OP is specifically asking for the exact product he's looking for.
Sort of like if someone asks: What's The best polish? My 1st thoughts and recommendations are going to be polishes, and not some willy nilly stuff such as HD Speed, or whatever AIO, when the person specifically asked for polish.
If they were asking for best AIO, then it'd be a different story
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Nothing wrong with not using a wax. You have a good sealant on. You're golden. As for QD, I am a huge pusher of Ultima Waterless Wash +. It performs the duty of QD, drying aid, and touch up via waterless wash very well. It is truly amazing. Its the only "QD" I own currently other than testing something cool.
Eldorado2k
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What does the + mean?