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Suggestions for new vehicle


Mike I just joined the forums and would like to get some product ordered for a Tacoma I just purchased. It has 700 miles on it and is Magnetic Gray.

Seems like a coating is the way to go.

Just trying to make sure I order everything to get the job done. I assume clay bar, polish, coating?

How many pads towels, quick detailer, etc?

I also noticed the truck came with a toyoguard and a clear paint protection sticker on it. I am not exactly sure what that is.

dont have a da but I may go ahead and purchase one.

I only maintain my own vehicles but a da would be nice to have.

Seems like the pinnacle black label products are used by many as well as the blackfire wet ice over fire.

To many options and so many price differences!

Thanks for you time and all the great info on the forums.


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Thank you so much for taking this out of PMs and onto the forum. I get a lot of PMs but my preference is always to answer questions in public where more people can read and join into the discussion.

I'm not sure what the Toyogaurd is but my guess is a little Google work or a phone call to the dealership will provide that information.

My guess is it's some type of synthetic paint sealant and nothing special. Just a guess. If it were anything more complicated like an actual paint coating you would know because they would have charged you for it.

As for what to so I would click the link below and follow the steps I did to this 2014 Corvette Stingray.

How to detail a 2014 Corvette Stingray


I list all the steps and products I use in the write-up. This was a brand new Corvette so it needed very little in the way of prep just like "hopefully" your new truck.

Actually, how to coat a new Corvette Stingray. Most people outside the forum world don't know what a paint coating is. They do understand what a car wax or synthetic paint sealant is but not a paint coating.

See my article here for the differences between car waxes, synthetic paint sealants and paint coatings.


3-Categories: Waxes, Paint Sealants and Coatings



Process

Step 1: Wash and dry car or wipe car clean
The owner washed his Corvette the night before and then next morning drove it to Autogeek. During the 3 hour trip to Stuart, Florida he hit a few showers and wet areas of the highway so after moving the Stingray into the garage we wiped it down using Detailer's Waterless Autowash.


Step 2: Inspect paint for swirls
For this we used the new Flex Swirl Finder Light. This Corvette is brand new and has been carefully hand washed by the owner using products purchased at Autogeek. There were no visible swirls or scratches in the finish.


Step 3: Inspect for above surface bonded contaminants
For this we first inspect using our clean, bare hand and felt no contamination. Next we used the Baggie Test and even with the baggie test we only felt nominal and sporadic contaminants. Not enough to justify claying or some other mechanical means of decontaminating.


Step 4: Chemically clean and polish paint to prep it for a coating
I used the Black Label Surface Cleansing Lotion on all the paint, hard smooth plastic and glass. Product was applied to the entire car at one time using a 5.5" Lake Country Black Flat Pad on the 5 speed setting of a Porter Cable 7424XP.


Step 5: Hand apply Black Label Diamond Paint Coating
For this step we wore black nitrile gloves and applied the coating using Lake Country Coating Applicators. We applied to all body panels at one time.


Step 6: Hand apply Black Label Diamond Glass Coating
For this I used round foam applicator pad.


Step 7: Hand applied Black Label Diamond Wheel Coating
For this we used the Gold Wax Finger Pockets.


Step 8: Removed coatings
After applying the last coating, (wheel coating), we carefully and methodically wiped the coatings off following our path of travel used to apply the coatings. That is start wiping off first where we applied first.



Here's a few pictures from this project...


Taping off Trim
There's some coarse or rough textured plastic trim pieces on the car as well as a few rubber gaskets that I would recommend covering with painter's tape to prevent staining them with any type of compound or polish.

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Prep paint for coating
Here you can see the residue covering the car everywhere the Surface Cleansing Lotion was applied by machine. For a few of the tight ares like the fresh air intake louvers on the hood, around the tail lights in the back and the vent areas on the sides of the car.
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Smoothing over a rock chip
The was a recent rock chip in the front clip. The edges were jagged and sharp. The owner asked if I could wetsand the chip out and I said "no" as the chip had penetrated past the clearcoat and the basecoat. He asked if I could sand the area to smooth over the jagged feel to the edges and I said "yes".

I then proceeded to lightly sand the area with a 3 inch 3M Trizact #5000 Sanding Disc and then removed the sanding marks using Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover, (Medium Cut Polish), and then re-polished to maximize gloss and clarity using the Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish, (Fine Cut Polish).

Polishing work to remove the sanding marks was done using the Griot's 3" Mini Polisher and some small, thin 3.5" foam polishing pads. I found the paint on this new Corvette to be very easy to polish.

I recommended to the owner to get some factory touch-up paint and dab a tiny amount into the now cleaned out and smoothed over rock chip.

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After pictures...

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Wheels & Tires
Wheels are coated with Black Label Diamond Wheel Coating. Tires have three applications of TUF Shine Tire Clearcoat.

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The owner like my truck so before leaving we took a few pictures of his very cool Corvette in front of my daily driver...

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Thanks Mike for the response. And especially for describing in such detail. I have been looking up the toyoguard. It does appear to be a synthetic sealant but no one really knows for sure. I watched your one hour video on the Dodge charger last night and some of the same products were used in that video. Looking forward to starting this project.
 
Thanks Mike for the response. And especially for describing in such detail.

No problemo... I know when I join other forums and ask questions I always hope to get detailed help so I try to lead by example.

It takes a while to not only do the work, (buff out the Corvette), but also take the pictures while buffing out the Corvette and then later processing the pictures and writing out the information to create a thread that's both instructional and will endure over time.

I wrote this article just at one year ago and the info in it is just as accurate today as it was when I wrote it.


I have been looking up the toyoguard. It does appear to be a synthetic sealant

That's what I figured...

but no one really knows for sure.

That's sounds about right... dealerships are all about getting you to sign on the dotted line most of what you'll read about dealerships as it relates to detailing cars and most specifically taking care of the paint is what I've always called horror stories.


I watched your one hour video on the Dodge charger last night and some of the same products were used in that video. Looking forward to starting this project.


Here's the project you're referring too....


2013 Dodge Charger - Black Label Diamond Paint Coating- New Rupes Polishers - Pictures & Video



People forget... that's normal but I don't forget about the articles I write because I write them.

This project was done right after the 2013 SEMA Show. I've been doing this type of class ever since I worked for Meguiar's. That is take all the cool stuff introduced at SEMA and buff out a car to do two things.

1. Show case the product on the Internet so the whole world can see them in action.

2. Share the products with local car guys as that's the most I can do. Local car guys willing to spend a Thursday night here at Autogeek and back when I worked at Meguiar's spend their Thursdays night at Meguiar's. Going on about 10 years now of doing Thursday night gigs and showcasing new products from SEMA before anyone else has the products and before anyone else shares the products. (that's 2 things)


At this particular post-SEMA project Autogeek we showcased the brand new Pinnacle Black Label coatings.

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And the two prototypes of the Rupes Duetto 12mm and Mini 12mm plus 2 production units. I'm pretty sure having 4 of these tools in the same building was more than anyone else had in the U.S. at that time.

We also showcased the new Rupes microfiber pads.


But yeah... now that you have a brand new car NOW is the time to start taking care of it while everything is still in brand new shape.

Most people look at their brand new car and because it's so beautiful they don't do anything. Then normal wear-n-tear takes place slowly over time and one day, a few years later the owner looks at their 2-3 year old car and this time pays attention and notices it has lost it's new car gleam and wonders


How did that happen?


Here's some advice I've been sharing for decades...


"Find something you like and use it often"

Good advice I received by a guy name Jack Anderson who taught painters how to paint cars using PPG paint. I have an article on this quote.


Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Coating is the easiest paint coating to use. They're all a pain due to the extra prep steps you have to do before you can apply a coating but this one is about as simple as you can get.

The Pinnacle Black Label line also includes two maintenance products you can read about them here,

Black Label Coating Detailer & Booster - Synergistic Chemical Compatibility


Black Label Diamond Coating Booster & Black Label Diamond Coating Detailer

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Here's the car in the above article and this car was buffed out by my students at one of my Detailing Boot Camp Classes.

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Here's a recent testimony for the product here,

1 Year PBL Paint Coating Review



And two weeks ago at one of our Thursday night Autogeek projects we machine compounded, machine polished a true show car. It's a 1956 Chevy Bel Air.


1956 Bel Air Show Car Prep at Autogeek's Show Car Garage!

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After we compounded and polished it we machine applied the Pinnacle Black Label Surface Cleansing Polish to remove any polishing residues left by the Advanced Finishing Polish and then we coated the paint using Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Paint Coating.


EXACTLY like I show in the Corvette article above.

The next weekend the owner Sam placed his car at the Eckler's Winter Nationals car show and won First Place Platinum. His car with it's coated finish took 996 points out of a thousand.

I'll dig up the pictures today and try to add them to this thread before my Thursday night class starts today.


Just an old Dodge 2-door...


Sign up: 1971 Dodge Charger - Show Car Detailing

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Hats off to you for doing your due diligence to take care of your BRAND NEW TRUCK and keep in mind the products I shared on the BRAND NEW CORVETTE as well as the 1956 Chevy Bel Air (which has a NEW style basecoat/clearcoat paint system), as well as the 1970 El Camino (which has a NEW style basecoat/clearcoat paint system), and even the old Dodge we're working on tonight will also work just as well on the paint on your Toyota.


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thanks Mike. You just answered my next question. How to maintain the coating. I didn't know if I could wax over it or what was best. I will check out the two maintenance products you listed. Definitely gonna buy the book. Thanks for putting me on the right path!
 
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