Surbuf MicroFinger Buffing Pads now at Autogeek!

i bought two awhile back and love them. very vibration free, smooth passes and great results. i had forgotten where i got them so my cart has more now.
 
BigAl3 said:
Surbuf Pad paired with M105 and PC is a defect killer!
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Notice that Kevin only talks about paint correction
This statement is true I can attest to it.

Once the paint has been leveled and all random defects have been eliminated, a final polishing will more than likely be required. Although the Surbuf pad levels paint quite well, it does seem to leave behind a small amount of curly-que scratches. While these marks are usually very fine, they are obvious. To remove them, change the pad to a traditional style foam finishing pad, and use a final polish as you normally would. If you are a skilled user of the random-orbital polisher, very little distortion of the ultra-leveled surface should occur
 
Black Bart said:
Notice that Kevin only talks about paint correction
This statement is true I can attest to it.

Once the paint has been leveled and all random defects have been eliminated, a final polishing will more than likely be required. Although the Surbuf pad levels paint quite well, it does seem to leave behind a small amount of curly-que scratches. While these marks are usually very fine, they are obvious.
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This is what I observed also when working on The El Camino.


Black Bart said:
To remove them, change the pad to a traditional style foam finishing pad, and use a final polish as you normally would. If you are a skilled user of the random-orbital polisher, very little distortion of the ultra-leveled surface should occur
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Agree. I was using M205 as a finishing polish already so after compounding with the Surbuf pads and the M105, M205 and a finishing pad were already set-up and ready to go so I tested it out and then checked the results and the combination of M205 with a foam finishing pad easily removed the tick marks on this paint system.

Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
We followed this with M205 Ultra Finishing Polish on a W9207 Foam Finishing pad on the 5.0 Speed Setting using the G110v2 for about 4 passes with medium pressure and then two more section passes with just a little more than the weight of the machine to keep the pad flat to the surface. The results you see here are only after polishing with M205, there is no wax or paint sealant applied at this point.
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This is why after removing the swirls, I switched to a foam finishing pad and M205, this combination removed the tick marks left after the compounding process.

I like to test everything on black paint and so far I have not had time to test on black paint to see if the tick marks or marring left after compounding with the Surbuf pads and the M105 was from the M105 or the Surbuf pads or both.

The paint on this El Camino was very polishable, that it it was a joy to work on, so much in fact I'll probably contact the painter to find out which paint system he's shooting or at least which paint system he used on the El Camino.

This was the first time I've used this type of microfiber pad after reading the link posted to this thread by Kevin Brown.

It's always a good idea to be open to new ideas and new products. It's also always a good idea to test any approach to a small section first before going over the entire car.

Make sure you products, pads and process can make one small section look GREAT before going over the entire car.

Testing is like cheap insurance.


:)
 
When I bought mine I did not look up the manufactures web site just went with what was on the site selling them.
Since they were calling them microfiber and great for applying a LSP that is what I tried to do with them.
Using this pad on a very glossy Black finish will leave horrible little tick marks that had to be buffed out.
I never tried them for any other use and it is too late now their gone.
Since I only do my own car I have no need for a fast cutting pad I make sure that when I wash I don't do damage after 12 to 18 months I can just use a LC white with M80 and remove all imperfections.
My DD has SS paint and I have yet to find anything better than the old M80 on SS paint. :buffing:
 
Black Bart said:
I bought some of these pads about 3 years ago tried to put sealant on with them.
When I saw what it did to my paint I could have cried.
I got out my LC pads and after much polishing I did restore the finish.

I threw the Surbuf pads in the trash container and when the trash truck took then away I'm sure HE put them in their rightful place.
IN THE BOTTOM OF THE LANDFILL
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I never had that problem using Sip or 106ff but i never tried to put on a lsp with them and i guess i wont.I do still like these pads alot though...esp if you need some heavy correction....or even light correction.
 
I bought these pads because i heard they were good with 105. Im doing a Black Mercedes SLK and is female owned and operated. Its mechanically we take care of but the paint though looks glossy from a distance, was in bad shape.. It took hours of claying (yes many hours) because of all the grit in the paint. So i have several products, using the 7424xp. I started with the new Megs MF system and it looked ok but didnt seem to have enough cut for this car. SO i switch to some Adams Products with the new green pad and polish and still some of the deeper stuff wasnt coming out as i liked. It looked much better but not good enough. So I also had the Optimum Compound 2 and Polish 2. Used with an orange LC 5.5 pad it was marginally better than the other products. I began to surmise that I was going to need the 3401, which I recently purchased but I don't have a pad set for it yet.

Then I remembered I had a couple of Surbufs. On a whim, with the Optimum line, I first used the Compound 2 with the Surbuf. I did a section on the hood which is some of the worse stuff on the car..OK wow it knocked out the scratches no problem but it was more hazy than with the Orange pad. The bottle says it can be a one step. Not in my experience. I used the other Surbuf with the Polish 2 and WOW...It looks great..I didnt notice any marks from the process with Polish 2. SO tomorrow I will bet a better inspection and I was tired by that point but I laid down so DG 105 on that section and it looks great..I love these pads, at least in this case. I'm not a pro yet. But I love a clean car. :dblthumb2:
 
Gtiracerx said:
Then I remembered I had a couple of Surbufs. On a whim, with the Optimum line, I first used the Compound 2 with the Surbuf. I did a section on the hood which is some of the worse stuff on the car..OK wow it knocked out the scratches no problem but it was more hazy than with the Orange pad.

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The MicroFingers of the Surbuf pads themselves, can leave what is called,

  • Micro-marring
  • Haze
  • DA Haze
  • Tick Marks

All terms for the same thing which is tiny little scratches inflicted by the action of the tool and the fibers that make up the fingers and of course to some level the abrasive product you're using.

Usually a second pass using a foam pad and normally a less aggressive product, (personal preference), will remove the haze and restore a clear, high gloss finish.

:)​
 
Gtiracerx said:
I bought these pads because i heard they were good with 105. Im doing a Black Mercedes SLK and is female owned and operated. Its mechanically we take care of but the paint though looks glossy from a distance, was in bad shape.. It took hours of claying (yes many hours) because of all the grit in the paint. So i have several products, using the 7424xp. I started with the new Megs MF system and it looked ok but didnt seem to have enough cut for this car. SO i switch to some Adams Products with the new green pad and polish and still some of the deeper stuff wasnt coming out as i liked. It looked much better but not good enough. So I also had the Optimum Compound 2 and Polish 2. Used with an orange LC 5.5 pad it was marginally better than the other products. I began to surmise that I was going to need the 3401, which I recently purchased but I don't have a pad set for it yet.

Then I remembered I had a couple of Surbufs. On a whim, with the Optimum line, I first used the Compound 2 with the Surbuf. I did a section on the hood which is some of the worse stuff on the car..OK wow it knocked out the scratches no problem but it was more hazy than with the Orange pad. The bottle says it can be a one step. Not in my experience. I used the other Surbuf with the Polish 2 and WOW...It looks great..I didnt notice any marks from the process with Polish 2. SO tomorrow I will bet a better inspection and I was tired by that point but I laid down so DG 105 on that section and it looks great..I love these pads, at least in this case. I'm not a pro yet. But I love a clean car. :dblthumb2:
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Glad it all worked out for you

On your next order: will you be ordering more Meguiars DF or Surbufs pads?
 
Flash Gordon said:
Glad it all worked out for you

On your next order: will you be ordering more Meguiars DF or Surbufs pads?
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Im goingnto be getting more surbufs for sure, I love the cut but as a final pad Ill make to make a retraction. I had end of the day light as opposed to direct sun light. I also wasant using my spotlight so it really does look better and shines really good but there are still some marks that appear to be from the pad that a few of the far more experienced detailers mentioned. So surbufs have their role. Im going to go back over that section with a white pad and M205 and see how that comes out:xyxthumbs:
 
Gtiracerx said:
Im goingnto be getting more surbufs for sure, I love the cut but as a final pad Ill make to make a retraction. I had end of the day light as opposed to direct sun light. I also wasant using my spotlight so it really does look better and shines really good but there are still some marks that appear to be from the pad that a few of the far more experienced detailers mentioned. So surbufs have their role. Im going to go back over that section with a white pad and M205 and see how that comes out:xyxthumbs:
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Smart man :props: the Surbufs are far superior to Meguiars DF :)
 
Flash Gordon said:
Smart man :props: the Surbufs are far superior to Meguiars DF :)
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Superior? I wouldn't say that. The Surbufs do have more cut than the Meguiar's MF pads, but both have their place in a detailer's arsenal if for no other reason than the old rule "use the least aggressive solution necessary to get the job done."

Call me crazy, I just don't like to approach a paint correction job like a bull walking into a china shop. :buffing:
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Superior? I wouldn't say that. The Surbufs do have more cut than the Meguiar's MF pads, but both have their place in a detailer's arsenal if for no other reason than the old rule "use the least aggressive solution necessary to get the job done."

Call me crazy, I just don't like to approach a paint correction job like a bull walking into a china shop. :buffing:
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After I get done washing and claying, I don't need to guess which step I should take. I've been down this road to many times, but thats just me I suppose

How are you doing this evening Charlie :)
 
Flash Gordon said:
After I get done washing and claying, I don't need to guess which step I should take. I've been down this road to many times, but thats just me I suppose

How are you doing this evening Charlie :)
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Doing well sir! How about yourself?

I won't dispute that with experience comes less need for guesswork.... I just like leaving my options open since I never know what I'll come across or how any random paint system is going to react to a product or pad combo and by going straight to the big guns every time I'd feel like I'm playing with fire. :props:
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
Doing well sir! How about yourself?

I won't dispute that with experience comes less need for guesswork.... I just like leaving my options open since I never know what I'll come across or how any random paint system is going to react to a product or pad combo and by going straight to the big guns every time I'd feel like I'm playing with fire. :props:
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Glad to hear all is well with you :)

As for me, I could complain, but no one really wants to hear that, now do they :p
 
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