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Hi Mike,

I am using the Meguiar's D300 correction compound with the microfiber cutting disk using the Meguiar's G110v2 dual action polisher on a 2000 Corvette which has major swirls and scratches. The Corvette was neglected.

I spent 3 hours just on the hood and have to do it a second time as there are still swirls and scratches.

My question is is there a more aggressive correction compound that I can use? If so, which one and which pads should I be using with it?

Or would a wet sanding be more suited for the job?

Thanks

Pat
 
patricemougeot said:
Hi Mike,

I am using the Meguiar's D300 correction compound with the microfiber cutting disk using the Meguiar's G110v2 dual action polisher on a 2000 Corvette which has major swirls and scratches. The Corvette was neglected.

I spent 3 hours just on the hood and have to do it a second time as there are still swirls and scratches.
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Questions

1: What speed setting are you on?

2: How much downward pressure are you applying?

3: How large of an area are you tackling at one time?


These are KEY factors for getting great correction results when using any 8mm dual action polisher.

Please take a moment to read my article below and see if you're making any of the common mistakes.

DA Polisher Trouble Shooting Guide



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patricemougeot said:
My question is is there a more aggressive correction compound that I can use?

If so, which one and which pads should I be using with it?
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The most aggressive cut you can get with a 8mm dual action polisher that I know of would be the Meguiar's Xtra Cut Microfiber Pads.

Meguiars DMX5 DA Microfiber Xtra Cut Disc, 5 inches

These are the thinnest MF pad on the market and offer the most cut when using perfect technique with a 8mm dual action polisher.

As for more cutting power, I believe the Meguiar's M100 and the M101 offer more cut than the D300


Meguiars M100 Pro Speed Compound

Meguiars M101 Foam Cut Compound, meguiars compound, m101 compound, meguiars foam cut compound


Technically the M100 is for wool pads on rotary buffers but I find it works with just about any tool or pad. Same for the M101. I think I like the M100 better as it has an endless working time and easy wipe-off but I would have to revisit them both and use them at the same time to remember.


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Hi Pat,

Before I answer the first questions you asked, when it comes to wet sanding,

1: Have you ever done any wet sanding before? No.

2: Does this Corvette have the factory paint job? Yes it does


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1: What speed setting are you on? 5

2: How much downward pressure are you applying? 15-20 pound

3: How large of an area are you tackling at one time? 2'x2'


These are KEY factors for getting great correction results when using any 8mm dual action polisher.
 
Mike Phillips said:
The most aggressive cut you can get with a 8mm dual action polisher that I know of would be the Meguiar's Xtra Cut Microfiber Pads.

Meguiars DMX5 DA Microfiber Xtra Cut Disc, 5 inches: I am actually using them :-)

These are the thinnest MF pad on the market and offer the most cut when using perfect technique with a 8mm dual action polisher.

As for more cutting power, I believe the Meguiar's M100 and the M101 offer more cut than the D300
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Can I use my MF pads with this compound? If not, which pads would you recommend I use?


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patricemougeot said:
Can I use my MF pads with this compound? If not, which pads would you recommend I use?
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Yes.

These two compounds may not be OPTIMIZED for MF pads but they will work.

You said you wanted a more aggressive compound to get the scratches out of your Corvette and that D100 so sometimes you need to throw "normal" protocols out the window.

Just sayin...


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patricemougeot said:
1: What speed setting are you on? 5

2: How much downward pressure are you applying? 15-20 pound

3: How large of an area are you tackling at one time? 2'x2'
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As long as you see the pad rotating on speed 5 then that's what Meguiar's recommends. Higher speeds will generate HIGHER HEAT and destroy the pads.

The pressure is good.

The area you're working is TOO LARGE

Lay a 16" by 16" microfiber towel down on the hood and buff an area this size.

I don't know who started the

Buff a 2' by 2' section

In the detailing world but I think it was Meguiar's about 30 years ago and it's simply TOO LARGE of a section to buff with these types of SIMPLE dual action polishers when modern clearcoat paints are SO HARD.

Shrink the size of your work area down and you can probably do the car using the D300


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patricemougeot said:
1: Have you ever done any wet sanding before? No.


2: Does this Corvette have the factory paint job? Yes it does
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Thank you for answering these questions and I'm glad you joined the forum before you dove head first into wetsanding the factory paint on a Corvette.

First - Wetsanding is EASY!

The tricky part is getting 100% of your sanding marks out of the paint without BURNING through the clearcoat.


Second - Modern clearcoats and specifically Corvettes have very hard clears. Without a rotary buffer or 3M Trizact #5000 sanding discs (and some experience) you really don't want to learn how to wetsand on your Corvette. A junker panel from the wrecking yard or your wife's or girlfriend's car would be a much better option.


Third - FACTORY clearcoats are THIN.

Here's my article on this topic. Click the link, read the article and most of all... look at the pictures and then find a Post-it Note and do what you see me doing in the article.


Clearcoats are thin by Mike Phillips


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Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
As long as you see the pad rotating on speed 5 then that's what Meguiar's recommends. Higher speeds will generate HIGHER HEAT and destroy the pads.

The pressure is good.

The area you're working is TOO LARGE

Lay a 16" by 16" microfiber towel down on the hood and buff an area this size.

I don't know who started the

Buff a 2' by 2' section

In the detailing world but I think it was Meguiar's about 30 years ago and it's simply TOO LARGE of a section to buff with these types of SIMPLE dual action polishers when modern clearcoat paints are SO HARD.

Shrink the size of your work area down and you can probably do the car using the D300


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Ok. I will shrink the size. I move my arms slowly. I did my 2011 Mustang Shelby and it came out awesome. Now I'm doing my friends Corvette after he saw my Shelby. Of course I watch your videos. So hopefully in the next 20 years I can be as talented as your are ;-)
 
Now don't get me wrong, but I used the Meguiar's xtra cut micro-fiber pad with the D300. Set the speed to 5 and did a section no greater than 16" x 16". 2 times (4 section passes each time)

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If you look closely there are still swirls and scratches. I'm kind of wondering what else I could do to fix this.


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Mike Phillips said:
The area you're working is TOO LARGE

Lay a 16" by 16" microfiber towel down on the hood and buff an area this size.

I don't know who started the Buff a 2' by 2' sectionIn the detailing world but I think it was Meguiar's about 30 years ago and it's simply TOO LARGE of a section to buff with these types of SIMPLE dual action polishers when modern clearcoat paints are SO HARD.

Shrink the size of your work area down and you can probably do the car using the D300
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This one is so important especially with diminishing abrasives.. only time I can run a larger work area is with a rotary and SMAT.. then the pad clogging up becomes the bigger constraint.. wool being more forgiving BUT it brings it own issues on softer paint..

So many times chasing the larger work area leads to slower correction rate, clogged pads from using more product to try and cover the section.. which lubricates the pad and works against you..

Don't rush a quality job.... hence have a beer and some good music to hand...
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
That should do the trick...


Let us know how it goes...


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So Mike, in your honest opinion as I value it a lot, can you answer these questions:

1- Which correction compound is the best for minor, medium to large paint correction? IE: brand name
2- Which pads would be best suited to use with that compound? IE: brand name, microfiber and/or foam pad

I will be buying the Griot's Big Boss 21 in the next few days.
 
patricemougeot said:
So Mike, in your honest opinion as I value it a lot, can you answer these questions:

1- Which correction compound is the best for minor, medium to large paint correction? IE: brand name
2- Which pads would be best suited to use with that compound? IE: brand name, microfiber and/or foam pad

I will be buying the Griot's Big Boss 21 in the next few days.
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If you're going with the Griot's Boss 21 which is a great machine ( I have one) go with the Griots pads and polishes. Purchase one of the kits. It's a great system and so easy and user friendly. At the least get the Griots pads, jump on this 25% off sale!!!
 
custmsprty said:
If you're going with the Griot's Boss 21 which is a great machine ( I have one) go with the Griots pads and polishes. Purchase one of the kits. It's a great system and so easy and user friendly. At the least get the Griots pads, jump on this 25% off sale!!!
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Thanks custmsprty. But again my questions remain. I used Meguiar's product. But if there is a better product or a combination of products to have, I would like to know as I want to use the best products available to me as I want to do quality jobs over quantity.

1- Which correction compound is the best for minor, medium to large paint correction? IE: brand name
2- Which pads would be best suited to use with that compound? IE: brand name, microfiber and/or foam pad
 
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