Swirl remover correction compound

[patricemougeot]

If you're going with the Griot's Boss 21 which is a great machine ( I have one) go with the Griots pads and polishes. Purchase one of the kits. It's a great system and so easy and user friendly. At the least get the Griots pads, jump on this 25% off sale!!!

Griots Garage BOSS G21 Long-Throw Orbital Polisher Deluxe Kit

Additional discounts are not applicable. Which means I can't apply the 25% discount code that is occurring right now. Otherwise it would be awesome.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

So Mike, in your honest opinion as I value it a lot, can you answer these questions:

1- Which correction compound is the best for minor, medium to large paint correction? IE: brand name

There are many brands that offer great abrasive technology. I don't know if there's a single best on the market but instead, lots of bests. They key is to avoid the not bests.

2- Which pads would be best suited to use with that compound? IE: brand name, microfiber and/or foam pad

I will be buying the Griot's Big Boss 21 in the next few days.

I have always tended and trended to be a

System's Guy"

That is, I tend to stay inside a single system due to the Synergistic Chemical Compatability of the products and if the company that makes and sells the products also offers a tool with pads and thus a complete system then I go with the system not experiement with unknowns.

If you're going to get teh Griot's Boss G21 then get the Griot's BOSS compounds and polishes and their pads. Thier BOSS system is AWESOME!

We used the BOSS compounds, polishes and waxes just the other night ago on this car and it had a LOT of deep swirls and scratches.

Pictures: 1969 Oldsmobile 442 - Extreme Makeover! At Autogeek!

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

If you're going with the Griot's Boss 21 which is a great machine ( I have one) go with the Griots pads and polishes.

Purchase one of the kits. It's a great system and so easy and user friendly. At the least get the Griots pads, jump on this 25% off sale!!!

I agree.

Griots Garage BOSS G21 Long-Throw Orbital Polisher Deluxe Kit

Additional discounts are not applicable. Which means I can't apply the 25% discount code that is occurring right now.

Otherwise it would be awesome.

At some point we have to make a profit or we go out of business and then there are zero sales and no forum to get help detailing cars.

 

[patricemougeot]

I agree.




At some point we have to make a profit or we go out of business and then there are zero sales and no forum to get help detailing cars.

Exactly my point Mike hense the fact that no other discount is applicable and I support that. It is already well discounted IMHO.

 

[patricemougeot]

There are many brands that offer great abrasive technology. I don't know if there's a single best on the market but instead, lots of bests. They key is to avoid the not bests.




I have always tended and trended to be a

System's Guy"

That is, I tend to stay inside a single system due to the Synergistic Chemical Compatability of the products and if the company that makes and sells the products also offers a tool with pads and thus a complete system then I go with the system not experiement with unknowns.

If you're going to get teh Griot's Boss G21 then get the Griot's BOSS compounds and polishes and their pads. Thier BOSS system is AWESOME!

We used the BOSS compounds, polishes and waxes just the other night ago on this car and it had a LOT of deep swirls and scratches.

Pictures: 1969 Oldsmobile 442 - Extreme Makeover! At Autogeek!

Totally understand that Mike. So with that, do you think there is a system that performs better than another one? If so, which one?

 

[VAS]

The most aggressive cut you can get with a 8mm dual action polisher that I know of would be the Meguiar's Xtra Cut Microfiber Pads.

Meguiars DMX5 DA Microfiber Xtra Cut Disc, 5 inches

These are the thinnest MF pad on the market and offer the most cut when using perfect technique with a 8mm dual action polisher.

As for more cutting power, I believe the Meguiar's M100 and the M101 offer more cut than the D300


Meguiars M100 Pro Speed Compound

Meguiars M101 Foam Cut Compound, meguiars compound, m101 compound, meguiars foam cut compound


Technically the M100 is for wool pads on rotary buffers but I find it works with just about any tool or pad. Same for the M101. I think I like the M100 better as it has an endless working time and easy wipe-off but I would have to revisit them both and use them at the same time to remember.

Hey Mike, Will either of these compounds (including the sonax cutmax) finish out with the Meg's MF finishing pad with the D301 finishing wax? Would D302 have a better result when used directly after an extra cut compound?

I just picked up the MF finishing pads, and the D301 finishing wax to try out as a one step finish (in a production setting). I'm impressed with what I can do with a few quick passes. I want to be able to kick it up a notch when needed. I'm primarily a rotary guy, so this is all new to me, thanks.

-Vinnie

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Hey Mike, Will either of these compounds (including the sonax cutmax) finish out with the Meg's MF finishing pad with the D301 finishing wax?

Would D302 have a better result when used directly after an extra cut compound?

The only way to answer that question is by doing some testing on each car you buff out because paints vary. Some paints are harder or softer than others so that's why I practice and teach others to do what I call a Test Spot.

How To Do a Test Spot

I just picked up the MF finishing pads, and the D301 finishing wax to try out as a one step finish (in a production setting). I'm impressed with what I can do with a few quick passes. I want to be able to kick it up a notch when needed. I'm primarily a rotary guy, so this is all new to me, thanks.

-Vinnie

Sounds good. The Meguiar's MF system is a very capable system. I'm not a huge microfiber pad user as I prefer using foam when I use dual action polishers. I like the cushion it provides to conform to curved panels and besides that fibers are a type of abrasive and can leave micro-marring behind in the paint.

That's must me... microfiber pads are very popular it's just each person can find a way or system that works best for them.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

Totally understand that Mike. So with that, do you think there is a system that performs better than another one? If so, which one?

I think there are "systems" plural.

I can make a FLEX 3401 dance on paint and I can make a RUPES BigFoot 21 dance on paint. I recently wheeled my own truck and finished out using ONLY a rotary buffer hologram free. I've probably buffed out as many if not more cars than anyone breathing using the simple Porter Cable 7424 dual action polisher.


To me the MOST important aspect of polishing paint is the abrasive technology. Most guys think it's technique and I simply respectfully disagree. There's great abrasive technology and not great abrasive technology and all the technique in the world won't make a mediocre compound or polish leave a perfect finish on black paint.

Probably the second most important thing besides starting out with great abrasive technology is technique and you develop that from spending HOURS behind your tool, pad and products of choice.

 

[VAS]

The only way to answer that question is by doing some testing on each car you buff out because paints vary. Some paints are harder or softer than others so that's why I practice and teach others to do what I call a Test Spot.

How To Do a Test Spot







Sounds good. The Meguiar's MF system is a very capable system. I'm not a huge microfiber pad user as I prefer using foam when I use dual action polishers. I like the cushion it provides to conform to curved panels and besides that fibers are a type of abrasive and can leave micro-marring behind in the paint.

That's must me... microfiber pads are very popular it's just each person can find a way or system that works best for them.

I figured as much. I haven't been able to see results as fast as I'd like with foam on a DA. I usually use foam on a DA as a follow up to my last rotary step before a final sealing product.